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Vieux 12/04/2008, 20h19   #1 (permalink)
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Hello,
I am installing a Win2003 Server/DC to take the place of the first Win2000
Server/DC on the domain. I have installed AD, DNS, DHCP, and am in the
process of transferring FSMO roles. I have transferred all except
Infrastructure Master. I've read that you cannot transfer the Infrastructure
Master role to a GC. Since I have made the new DC a GC, what is the best
practice for this situation?
Thanks,
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James
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Vieux 12/04/2008, 20h42   #2 (permalink)
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one more thing...
i just noticed when i tried to do a net view i only see a few servers. i can
ping computers here and in other subnets but do not see them.
And, my i don't know much about login scripts. I know we run one here, but
do not know how to transfer it to the new DC
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James


"James" wrote:

> Hello,
> I am installing a Win2003 Server/DC to take the place of the first Win2000
> Server/DC on the domain. I have installed AD, DNS, DHCP, and am in the
> process of transferring FSMO roles. I have transferred all except
> Infrastructure Master. I've read that you cannot transfer the Infrastructure
> Master role to a GC. Since I have made the new DC a GC, what is the best
> practice for this situation?
> Thanks,
> --
> James

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Vieux 12/04/2008, 20h46   #3 (permalink)
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James wrote:
> Hello,
> I am installing a Win2003 Server/DC to take the place of the first
> Win2000 Server/DC on the domain. I have installed AD, DNS, DHCP, and
> am in the process of transferring FSMO roles. I have transferred all
> except Infrastructure Master. I've read that you cannot transfer the
> Infrastructure Master role to a GC. Since I have made the new DC a
> GC, what is the best practice for this situation?
> Thanks,


If this is a single domain, then there is no harm in making *all* DC's also
GCs. Otherwise the IM role holder should not also be a GC. You could revert
the GC status of the new DC if you have another GC then move the IM role.

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/kj


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Vieux 12/04/2008, 20h49   #4 (permalink)
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James wrote:
> one more thing...
> i just noticed when i tried to do a net view i only see a few
> servers. i can ping computers here and in other subnets but do not
> see them.
> And, my i don't know much about login scripts. I know we run one
> here, but do not know how to transfer it to the new DC


Login script properly locate in the sysvol will automatically be replicated
with FRS to the new DC.

Set up WINS if you expect to use net view or specify the fqdn of the server
in net view

>


>> Hello,
>> I am installing a Win2003 Server/DC to take the place of the first
>> Win2000 Server/DC on the domain. I have installed AD, DNS, DHCP, and
>> am in the process of transferring FSMO roles. I have transferred all
>> except Infrastructure Master. I've read that you cannot transfer the
>> Infrastructure Master role to a GC. Since I have made the new DC a
>> GC, what is the best practice for this situation?
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> James


--
/kj


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Vieux 12/04/2008, 21h52   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks kj-
I made all DC's GC's. Then I transferred Infra Master role to the new DC. I
also see all machines when i use net view now. I logged on to a users
computer and checked ip, etc.
In reference to the old Win 2000 DC...I shutdown the DHCP Server service. I
will leave it shut off for a week, then I will demote using dcpromo. Am I
missing anything? Should I shut down the old DC now?
--
James


"kj [SBS MVP]" wrote:

> James wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I am installing a Win2003 Server/DC to take the place of the first
> > Win2000 Server/DC on the domain. I have installed AD, DNS, DHCP, and
> > am in the process of transferring FSMO roles. I have transferred all
> > except Infrastructure Master. I've read that you cannot transfer the
> > Infrastructure Master role to a GC. Since I have made the new DC a
> > GC, what is the best practice for this situation?
> > Thanks,

>
> If this is a single domain, then there is no harm in making *all* DC's also
> GCs. Otherwise the IM role holder should not also be a GC. You could revert
> the GC status of the new DC if you have another GC then move the IM role.
>
> --
> /kj
>
>
>

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Vieux 12/04/2008, 22h24   #6 (permalink)
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James wrote:
> Thanks kj-
> I made all DC's GC's. Then I transferred Infra Master role to the new
> DC. I also see all machines when i use net view now. I logged on to a
> users computer and checked ip, etc.
> In reference to the old Win 2000 DC...I shutdown the DHCP Server
> service. I will leave it shut off for a week, then I will demote
> using dcpromo. Am I missing anything? Should I shut down the old DC
> now?


If you are planning to take it off line to see if any old references remain,
then just make sure the clients aren't trying to use it for DNS services or
an old hard coded refence in a login script or such.

Otherwise you should be fine. Didn't have any other special services on that
DC like Certificate Services?


>
>> James wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> I am installing a Win2003 Server/DC to take the place of the first
>>> Win2000 Server/DC on the domain. I have installed AD, DNS, DHCP, and
>>> am in the process of transferring FSMO roles. I have transferred all
>>> except Infrastructure Master. I've read that you cannot transfer the
>>> Infrastructure Master role to a GC. Since I have made the new DC a
>>> GC, what is the best practice for this situation?
>>> Thanks,

>>
>> If this is a single domain, then there is no harm in making *all*
>> DC's also GCs. Otherwise the IM role holder should not also be a GC.
>> You could revert the GC status of the new DC if you have another GC
>> then move the IM role.
>>
>> --
>> /kj


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/kj


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Vieux 14/04/2008, 03h45   #7 (permalink)
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I did notice some clients were referencing some old settings but when I
released and renewed the ip they were good. Along with a couple that had WINS
hard coded.
I will check on the Certificate Services etc. tomorrow morning at work. I
did not set this server up. Any other services I should be concerned with?
Sorry for all the questions, but where would I check for a hard coded
reference in a login script?
--
James


"kj [SBS MVP]" wrote:

> James wrote:
> > Thanks kj-
> > I made all DC's GC's. Then I transferred Infra Master role to the new
> > DC. I also see all machines when i use net view now. I logged on to a
> > users computer and checked ip, etc.
> > In reference to the old Win 2000 DC...I shutdown the DHCP Server
> > service. I will leave it shut off for a week, then I will demote
> > using dcpromo. Am I missing anything? Should I shut down the old DC
> > now?

>
> If you are planning to take it off line to see if any old references remain,
> then just make sure the clients aren't trying to use it for DNS services or
> an old hard coded refence in a login script or such.
>
> Otherwise you should be fine. Didn't have any other special services on that
> DC like Certificate Services?
>
>
> >
> >> James wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>> I am installing a Win2003 Server/DC to take the place of the first
> >>> Win2000 Server/DC on the domain. I have installed AD, DNS, DHCP, and
> >>> am in the process of transferring FSMO roles. I have transferred all
> >>> except Infrastructure Master. I've read that you cannot transfer the
> >>> Infrastructure Master role to a GC. Since I have made the new DC a
> >>> GC, what is the best practice for this situation?
> >>> Thanks,
> >>
> >> If this is a single domain, then there is no harm in making *all*
> >> DC's also GCs. Otherwise the IM role holder should not also be a GC.
> >> You could revert the GC status of the new DC if you have another GC
> >> then move the IM role.
> >>
> >> --
> >> /kj

>
> --
> /kj
>
>
>

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Vieux 14/04/2008, 05h41   #8 (permalink)
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James wrote:
> I did notice some clients were referencing some old settings but when
> I released and renewed the ip they were good. Along with a couple
> that had WINS hard coded.
> I will check on the Certificate Services etc. tomorrow morning at
> work. I did not set this server up. Any other services I should be
> concerned with? Sorry for all the questions, but where would I check
> for a hard coded reference in a login script?


Just open the login script and look, or do a net view \\olddc to see what
shares and printers were setup. Then look for client references with a net
use. Won't get everything, but should cover the basics.

Certificate Authority is the important one as it can't easily be
circumvented.

>
>> James wrote:
>>> Thanks kj-
>>> I made all DC's GC's. Then I transferred Infra Master role to the
>>> new DC. I also see all machines when i use net view now. I logged
>>> on to a users computer and checked ip, etc.
>>> In reference to the old Win 2000 DC...I shutdown the DHCP Server
>>> service. I will leave it shut off for a week, then I will demote
>>> using dcpromo. Am I missing anything? Should I shut down the old DC
>>> now?

>>
>> If you are planning to take it off line to see if any old references
>> remain, then just make sure the clients aren't trying to use it for
>> DNS services or an old hard coded refence in a login script or such.
>>
>> Otherwise you should be fine. Didn't have any other special services
>> on that DC like Certificate Services?
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> James wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I am installing a Win2003 Server/DC to take the place of the first
>>>>> Win2000 Server/DC on the domain. I have installed AD, DNS, DHCP,
>>>>> and am in the process of transferring FSMO roles. I have
>>>>> transferred all except Infrastructure Master. I've read that you
>>>>> cannot transfer the Infrastructure Master role to a GC. Since I
>>>>> have made the new DC a GC, what is the best practice for this
>>>>> situation?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> If this is a single domain, then there is no harm in making *all*
>>>> DC's also GCs. Otherwise the IM role holder should not also be a
>>>> GC. You could revert the GC status of the new DC if you have
>>>> another GC then move the IM role.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> /kj

>>
>> --
>> /kj


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/kj


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