So today I spent some time working on the interface design for the
site tracker I built. This is what I got so far:
http://www.backwater-productions.net...esign_Idea.png

The pie chart design will look very similar to the bar chart design
when finished.

One of the REALLY cool features my site tracker will have, that all
the others I've seen don't, is the "user-track" feature, which will
allow you to look at the browsing stats of each individual user who
visits the domain. You'll not only be able to see which sites they
visited, but how long they stayed, what parts of the site they looked
at and you'll be able to see their extended history to find out how
often they visit the sites. And of course you'll also be able to see
some trends, like the most popular site sections, the average user
visit length of time on each sub site, etc, etc.

It'll be especially handy with sites like my sprite generator to get a
good idea of the parts that are most in demand which I can then use to
"target update" in order to maximize traffic.

All in all, it's gonna be a VERY cool thing, and ever so much better
than the current form:
http://www.backwater-productions.net...inal_Graph.png

....lame!

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

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Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> So today I spent some time working on the interface design for the
> site tracker I built. This is what I got so far:
> http://www.backwater-productions.net...esign_Idea.png
>
> The pie chart design will look very similar to the bar chart design
> when finished.
>
> One of the REALLY cool features my site tracker will have, that all
> the others I've seen don't, is the "user-track" feature, which will
> allow you to look at the browsing stats of each individual user who
> visits the domain. You'll not only be able to see which sites they
> visited, but how long they stayed, what parts of the site they looked
> at and you'll be able to see their extended history to find out how
> often they visit the sites. And of course you'll also be able to see
> some trends, like the most popular site sections, the average user
> visit length of time on each sub site, etc, etc.
>
> It'll be especially handy with sites like my sprite generator to get a
> good idea of the parts that are most in demand which I can then use to
> "target update" in order to maximize traffic.
>
> All in all, it's gonna be a VERY cool thing, and ever so much better
> than the current form:
> http://www.backwater-productions.net...inal_Graph.png
>
> ...lame!
>

*grin*

I'm sorry Oni', before searching for matthew moulton on the internet I
never realised the number of people you
so-very-nearly-annoyed-but-didn't-quite-make-them-mad-really.
Congratulations you're almost an internet fad - too bad that puts you
not quite as famous as starwars kid.

I hope we have the best of arguments in the future ;]

- --
Brendan Gillatt
brendan {at} brendangillatt {dot} co {dot} uk
http://www.brendangillatt.co.uk
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On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 23:07:41 +0100, Brendan Gillatt
<brendanREMOVETHIS@brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.u k> wrote:

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>Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>> So today I spent some time working on the interface design for the
>> site tracker I built. This is what I got so far:
>> http://www.backwater-productions.net...esign_Idea.png
>>
>> The pie chart design will look very similar to the bar chart design
>> when finished.
>>
>> One of the REALLY cool features my site tracker will have, that all
>> the others I've seen don't, is the "user-track" feature, which will
>> allow you to look at the browsing stats of each individual user who
>> visits the domain. You'll not only be able to see which sites they
>> visited, but how long they stayed, what parts of the site they looked
>> at and you'll be able to see their extended history to find out how
>> often they visit the sites. And of course you'll also be able to see
>> some trends, like the most popular site sections, the average user
>> visit length of time on each sub site, etc, etc.
>>
>> It'll be especially handy with sites like my sprite generator to get a
>> good idea of the parts that are most in demand which I can then use to
>> "target update" in order to maximize traffic.
>>
>> All in all, it's gonna be a VERY cool thing, and ever so much better
>> than the current form:
>> http://www.backwater-productions.net...inal_Graph.png
>>
>> ...lame!
>>
>
>*grin*
>
>I'm sorry Oni', before searching for matthew moulton on the internet I
>never realised the number of people you
>so-very-nearly-annoyed-but-didn't-quite-make-them-mad-really.

Those types are in the minority really, most people online want to
kill me...well, the one's who take it all seriously anyway. I average
at least one or two death threats a week.

>Congratulations you're almost an internet fad - too bad that puts you
>not quite as famous as starwars kid.

Interestingly enough one of the reasons I act like an asshole is to
try and curb my popularity and to avoid celebritism. It's becoming
harder and harder though, primarily because of the sites I create.
Like in the RPG making community, I don't think I could piss those
guys off if I tried, at least not verbally. Now if I took away the
sprite generator site I made of them...yeah, that'd piss 'em off.
Having sites like that though means unavoidable celebritism in
whatever sub-genre they cater too.

>I hope we have the best of arguments in the future ;]

Whether or not you enjoy the arguments depends largely on how
seriously you take online communication. I'm quite the fan of word
art and verbal conflagration, so I'm never shy from invective
sparring.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

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Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 23:07:41 +0100, Brendan Gillatt
> <brendanREMOVETHIS@brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.u k> wrote:
>
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>> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>>> So today I spent some time working on the interface design for the
>>> site tracker I built. This is what I got so far:
>>> http://www.backwater-productions.net...esign_Idea.png
>>>
>>> The pie chart design will look very similar to the bar chart design
>>> when finished.
>>>
>>> One of the REALLY cool features my site tracker will have, that all
>>> the others I've seen don't, is the "user-track" feature, which will
>>> allow you to look at the browsing stats of each individual user who
>>> visits the domain. You'll not only be able to see which sites they
>>> visited, but how long they stayed, what parts of the site they looked
>>> at and you'll be able to see their extended history to find out how
>>> often they visit the sites. And of course you'll also be able to see
>>> some trends, like the most popular site sections, the average user
>>> visit length of time on each sub site, etc, etc.
>>>
>>> It'll be especially handy with sites like my sprite generator to get a
>>> good idea of the parts that are most in demand which I can then use to
>>> "target update" in order to maximize traffic.
>>>
>>> All in all, it's gonna be a VERY cool thing, and ever so much better
>>> than the current form:
>>> http://www.backwater-productions.net...inal_Graph.png
>>>
>>> ...lame!
>>>
>> *grin*
>>
>> I'm sorry Oni', before searching for matthew moulton on the internet I
>> never realised the number of people you
>> so-very-nearly-annoyed-but-didn't-quite-make-them-mad-really.
>
> Those types are in the minority really, most people online want to
> kill me...well, the one's who take it all seriously anyway. I average
> at least one or two death threats a week.

Congratulations. I'm sure that's more than you get from people who care.

>> Congratulations you're almost an internet fad - too bad that puts you
>> not quite as famous as starwars kid.
>
> Interestingly enough one of the reasons I act like an asshole is to
> try and curb my popularity and to avoid celebritism. It's becoming
> harder and harder though, primarily because of the sites I create.
> Like in the RPG making community, I don't think I could piss those
> guys off if I tried, at least not verbally. Now if I took away the
> sprite generator site I made of them...yeah, that'd piss 'em off.
> Having sites like that though means unavoidable celebritism in
> whatever sub-genre they cater too.

Aww, going soft on us? You don't act like an asshole - more a wingey
baby. To act like an asshole you'd need to hold brown in your mouth for
many hours.

No, I'm sure the RPG community could manage without your sprite
generator. Let me point out a few things to you here.

1) It's made in flash. Flash is not good as a primary design element.
More so when the flash doesn't even load unless I turn on JunkieScript.
I, much the same as anyone who has the sense to leave JS off, doesn't
find a blank, black page interesting. You could make the same thing
using proper (X)HTML better, faster and more extensible.
2) It is excruciatingly slow to load. Are you running your servers on
286s? It took 17 seconds to get one single image.
3) You are using HTML 3.01.
4) You send the whole lot of sprites to the server only for it to just
save the bitmaps as a PNG. All that can be done in PHP
5) The saving animation actually does nothing at all - it's simply a
sprite. A very pointless, time wasting sprite.


>> I hope we have the best of arguments in the future ;]
>
> Whether or not you enjoy the arguments depends largely on how
> seriously you take online communication. I'm quite the fan of word
> art and verbal conflagration, so I'm never shy from invective
> sparring.

Ooh, I wouldn't go so far as to call your insults invective - they're
not all that bad really. It seems you think a lot more of your insults
than the people you try to victimise do. I read them more as
entertainment. I now look forward to checking thunderbird for the new
quips you seem to invent. And tell me, how do you have a verbal fire? It
seems you have the wrong idea as to what a conflagration is. It is not a
verb - it is a noun.

- --
Brendan Gillatt
brendan {at} brendangillatt {dot} co {dot} uk
http://www.brendangillatt.co.uk
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On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:12:39 +0100, Brendan Gillatt
<brendanREMOVETHIS@brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.u k> wrote:

>> Those types are in the minority really, most people online want to
>> kill me...well, the one's who take it all seriously anyway. I average
>> at least one or two death threats a week.

>Congratulations. I'm sure that's more than you get from people who care.

Oh I'm sorry, you must be under the delusion that the Internet is
anything like the real world. See in the real world, child, I'm a
very respected, loved, dependable and admirable person to a great many
people. Most girls describe me as "sweet" and "lovable" and most guys
describe me as "cool" and "hard working". I'm the sort of guy who
walks into a room and everyone turns to look, smile and greet me with
excitement and interest. People know me by name and are never
hesitant to stop and say hello as I'm out and about town.

Why do they like me so much? Because I'm nice for one, not simply in
words but also in action. I'm always doing people favors, ing
them out when they need it and generally doing good deeds. Like today
for example I bought these nifty new tape dispensers for all the
departments at work. And last week I went and bought a bunch of new
silverware, plates, bowls and cups for the break room. Whether it's
buying things like magazines for the break room, lending someone a
dollar for the pop machine, fixing their computer or something as
simple as holding the door open for them...people like me...in the
real world.

I would imagine though that you probably have a lot of time telling
the difference between what's real and what's the Internet. *nods*

>>> Congratulations you're almost an internet fad - too bad that puts you
>>> not quite as famous as starwars kid.

>> Interestingly enough one of the reasons I act like an asshole is to
>> try and curb my popularity and to avoid celebritism. It's becoming
>> harder and harder though, primarily because of the sites I create.
>> Like in the RPG making community, I don't think I could piss those
>> guys off if I tried, at least not verbally. Now if I took away the
>> sprite generator site I made of them...yeah, that'd piss 'em off.
>> Having sites like that though means unavoidable celebritism in
>> whatever sub-genre they cater too.

>Aww, going soft on us? You don't act like an asshole - mo<COCK SLAP>

Watch your mouth, you stupid kid, you don't have any fuckin cl00 as to
the extent of what I've done to people online:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...40a63eea26ff44

Haven't use my Malkavian character in a few years though...pray to
whatever God you believe in that I don't ever start again. My
Malkavian character makes my Onideus character look like a cute kitten
by comparison.

>No, I'm sure the RPG community could manage without your sprite
>generator.

Considering it's the only one for RPG Maker XP...no, they really
couldn't actually.

> Let me point out a few things to you here.

Let me rip them all apart for you and point out your shortsighted,
presumptuous idiocy.

>1) It's made in flash.

Oh you sad little fool.

>Flash is not good as a primary design element.

Actually Flash is the perfect user front end. It's the most cross
compatible solution that currently exists and the number of features
it supports over other forms is impressive to say the least. It
updates extremely easily and most everyone already has it installed
since it's needed for all the video type sites (like YouTube) as well
as most gaming sites and the like (like Neopets, Zwinky, etc, etc).
If the sprite generator was being catered to blind people or the Amish
of the Internet (Lynx users and the like), then yeah, it may not be
such a great choice, but for the market it's aimed at it's the ideal
solution...see, you don't comprehend that though, I mean even after I
explain it, you still don't get it, do you? *nods*

>More so when the flash doesn't even load unless I turn on JunkieScript.

The Sprite Generator wasn't made for your type. Now go plow yourself
a cornfield you stupid hat wearing, Amish pig fucker.

>I, much the same as anyone who has the sense to leave JS off,

There's like 3 other people besides you, and no, I didn't make the
Sprite Generator for those three retards either.

>doesn't find a blank, black page interesting.

Of course you find it interesting, you're a stupid fuckin Amish! I
mean you don't shut off javascript and Flash unless you're TRYING to
limit you user experience. So either you're a fuckin idiot or you
LIKE boring, nondescript, plain text garbage.

>You could make the same thing
>using proper (X)HTML better, faster and more extensible.

LOL, you stupid retard, you have no idea what you're even talking
about (hell your stupid ass probably hasn't even seen it). The ONLY
other thing that it could have possibly been made with was
Java...that's it, Java, that's the only other web language available
that has color transform matrices (amongst a slew of other stuff
that's needed). You could ~possibly~ half-ass it in PHP and
javascript, but it'd be WAY inefficient and the home brew color
transform matrices wouldn't be nearly as good.

There is absolutely *NO* way you could do it with just straight XHTML,
don't be a fuckin retard. Well unless maybe your idea of a sprite
generator is one where the parts have static color options and the
user has to use print screen to save their finished sprite models.
Not to mention no animated preview, or in the next version it's going
to have a graphic editing program built directly into it so users can
REALLY customize and even create their own parts directly from
scratch.

The only thing HTML is good for is displaying simple pictures and
text...and it's not even very good at that. Flash supports 32 bit
alpha transparent JPEGs fer fuck sake! Not that you have any fuckin
clue as to what those are, why you would want to use them and most
importantly HOW you would use them. See that really is the basis of
everything you're babbling...ignorance.

>2) It is excruciatingly slow to load. Are you running your servers on
>286s? It took 17 seconds to get one single image.

Of course it's slow you retard, do you have any fuckin idea as to what
it's even doing? There's a couple methods I plan to employ in the
next version that maybe be able to speed it up a bit, using
ByteArray.compress() but ultimately the speed issue is affected most
by the number of users who are using it, and, well, that's quite a
damn lot:
: http://www.backwater-productions.net..._Aint_Good.png

You have understand, Shortsighted, I ain't runnin some tweenage muppet
fuck Pokemon fan site with 12 hits a month, collectively my sites get
upwards of around a HALF MILLION unique hits every month.

>3) You are using HTML 3.01.

Actually, no, I'm really not you ignorant moron. It's actually XHTML
code that's using the HTML 3.2 DTD tag. A deficient retard like
yourself obviously has no fuckin cl00 as to WHY one would do that.
But then your type isn't much for actually doing your own tests and
benchmarking. Pretty much you just slurp up someone else's bullshit
and then call it good. Free cl00, that method, it's the MOST CROSS
COMPATIBLE WAY of achieving that "portal" look (vertical and
horizontal centering)...well, most cross compatible next to Flash.
You can achieve the same effect with Flash and you don't even need
HTML code:
: http://www.backwater-productions.net...late/index.swf

>4) You send the whole lot of sprites to the server only for it to just
>save the bitmaps as a PNG. All that can be done in PHP

Your ignorance is showing once again. Free cl00, you retard, you can
alter the individual hue/sat/lightness of object parts and PHP doesn't
have any sort of prebuilt color matrices. You could half-ass your own
I suppose, but they wouldn't even be as remotely as good as the ones
prebuilt into Flash (not to mention they would be slow as fuck in PHP
and would eat up a shit load of server resources).

>5) The saving animation actually does nothing at all - it's simply a
>sprite. A very pointless, time wasting sprite.

Again, Dumbfuck, yer ignorance is showing. The sprite sheet that's
generated is for use in the program RPG Maker XP. You import the
sprite sheets you create and then use them in your custom made game.
They're not for like fuckin avatars or some other kind of tweenage
blogger board hoo-ha.

>>> I hope we have the best of arguments in the future ;]

>> Whether or not you enjoy the arguments depends largely on how
>> seriously you take online communication. I'm quite the fan of word
>> art and verbal conflagration, so I'm never shy from invective
>> sparring.

>Ooh, I wouldn't go so far as to call your insults invective - they're
>not all that bad really. It seems you think a lot more of your insults
>than the people you try to victimise do.

....right, which of course explains all the Hatter Addicts and the
whole recent fun with that Steve retard going on about how he was
going to kill me for calling that one d00d a pedo.

>I read them more as entertainment.

You're in the minority. They ARE supposed to be read as
entertainment, that's the way they're INTENDED, but there's just too
damn many retards trying to get themselves up on a cross these days,
tryin to play victim 'n shit.

>I now look forward to checking thunderbird for the new
>quips you seem to invent. And tell me, how do you have a verbal fire?

You're not so good with the metaphors, are you?

>It seems you have the wrong idea as to what a conflagration is. It is not a
>verb - it is a noun.

No, really? Thanks for the tip Captain Fuckin Obvious, you've saved
the day once again!

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:

>> Flash is not good as a primary design element.
>
> Actually Flash is the perfect user front end. It's the most cross
> compatible solution that currently exists and the number of features
> it supports over other forms is impressive to say the least.

Flash is only cross compatible within the microsoft family, the support of
alternative operating systems are limited and nowadays only the "x86 CPU"
family is supported, which includes that not all versions of an operating
system is supported even if Adobe makes a wrongful claim to support a OS, this
includes microsoft too, no support for Alpha, MIPS or PowerPC versions (yeah,
those are quite ancient nowadays, but keep in mind that there are still people
using ms-dos).

There been a few open source based projects to give some flash support to all
those that Adobe don't want to have flash, but they are quite outdated, as
Adobe ain't the one to share specifications.

If you want to support as many as possible, then use plain HTML, or Java (not
JavaScript/jscript), as Sun has made Java free, so there is a more likelihood
that you see Java than Flash to a smaller OS.

But of course those who can't type / in a path name, but has to use \, they
don't understand importance of making things as general as possible, so that
people can have their freedom to choose instead of making a thief richer.

--

//Aho

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:20:41 +0200, "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net>
wrote:

>Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>
>>> Flash is not good as a primary design element.
>>
>> Actually Flash is the perfect user front end. It's the most cross
>> compatible solution that currently exists and the number of features
>> it supports over other forms is impressive to say the least.

>Flash is only cross co<COCK SLAP>

WRONG!

: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/downl...h/English.html

You stupid dumbfuck, that's been out since July! Retards like
yourself always have trouble keeping up. Hell, if I hadn't posted the
link you probably would have gone the next five or six fuckin years
spreadin yer delusional misconceptions around. Morons like yourself
have some kind of biological mental fuckup that keeps you from
comprehending that technology is CONSTANTLY CHANGING and what's
incompatible one day can just as easily become compatible the next.
You should NEVER presume, ALWAYS CHECK FIRST, instead you just start
runnin at the fuck mouth like a retard.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:20:41 +0200, "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net>
wrote:

>Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>
>>> Flash is not good as a primary design element.
>>
>> Actually Flash is the perfect user front end. It's the most cross
>> compatible solution that currently exists and the number of features
>> it supports over other forms is impressive to say the least.
>
>Flash is only cross compatible within the microsoft family, the support of
>alternative operating systems are limited and nowadays only the "x86 CPU"
>family is supported, which includes that not all versions of an operating
>system is supported even if Adobe makes a wrongful claim to support a OS, this
>includes microsoft too, no support for Alpha, MIPS or PowerPC versions (yeah,
>those are quite ancient nowadays, but keep in mind that there are still people
>using ms-dos).

And I'm sure there are still some retards using a horse to plow their
fields...you know, THE AMISH!

With anything there are tools for the job...some tools get the job
done better, quicker, faster...problem is some retards are just too
damn slow to keep up.

Your argument is as absurd as bitching that your old black and white
television can't show color...of course it can't show color it's a
gawd damn black and white piece of shit you fuckin idiot! Wait, no,
even better, your argument is like bitching that you can't get hi-def
on the television you bought back in the early 80s! LOL

>There been a few open source based projects to give some flash support to all
>those that Adobe don't want to have flash, but they are quite outdated, as
>Adobe ain't the one to share specifications.

Why would they? I mean, it wouldn't matter. Like I said, hi-def on a
80s television just ain't gonna happen, Stupid. It's not a question
of development it's a question of CAPABILITY. It's like you're
bitching and moaning that you can't deep fry something with your
microwave.

>If you want to support as many as possible, then use plain HTML,

Sorry dipshit, but the Web has moved on. No longer are sites limited
to static text and images, people are actually building complex ONLINE
PROGRAMS and none of that can be done using plain HTML.

Your idea is to limit the development and capability of a site in
order to cater to a few screwed up dipshits who want to live like the
Amish. You can live like the Amish, Stupid, no one is stopping
you...but don't get all indignant and pissy when no one else signs on
for your little bandwagon back to 1990.

>or Java (not JavaScript/jscript), as Sun has made Java free, so there is a more likelihood
>that you see Java than Flash to a smaller OS.

WRONG!

Java doesn't update as easily as Flash and Java isn't a requirement on
highly mainstream sites like YouTube, thus, its market penetrate is
weak as can be as far as your average end user is concerned, making
Java a very poor choice over Flash. Not to mention that Flash is
capable of a whole fuckin slew of shit that Java can't even begin to
touch. Really it's like you're trying to compare a used Pinto to a
Ferrari (at least as far as the web). Java is great for a lot of
stuff, but a user front end of a website sure the fuck ain't one of
'em.

>But of course those who can't type / in a path name, but has to use \, they
>don't understand importance of making things as general as possible, so that
>people can have their freedom to choose instead of making a thief richer.

You're a stupid dipshit, plain and simple. You try to victimize
yourself by using outdated, deficient, antediluvian technology that
doesn't even possess the capability required for the product and then
you bitch and moan, claiming it's some master plan by some evul
"thief" whose tryin to bring you down. Essentially you're buying 100%
pure grape fruit juice and then bitching that it tastes sour. It's
YOUR CHOICE to buy the sour juice, Dipshit, if you don't like it, get
a sweeter flavor of juice rather than bitching at the juice
manufacturer and claiming that it's their evul plan to not invest the
research and money into developing an UNNATURAL sweet version of the
fruit.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )