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Vieux 14/09/2007, 22h36   #1
ship
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Hi

I have just got a "high resolution" LCD monitor (a Samsung Synchmaster
244T since you ask) and its native resolution is fairly high
(1920x1200).

Although the monitor itself is something of a joy(!), a normal
settings that resolution leaves my text way too small! I am
experimenting with changing the font size.

( See: Display properties => Settings => Advanced => DPI Setting =>
Large Size [120DPI - 125% normal size] )

The problem is that many web pages look rather weird.
(e.g. http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ has the search box in the wrong
place...)

Also in Windows Outlook(2003), the names of folders on the LH of the
screen
are not showing their full names! The names are being trimmed off...

- Do you guys think that changing the DPI is a mistake?

I suppose the other option would be to set the text size back to
normal and move
the monitor a *LOT* closer.?? On my previous screen I had it at a
custom setting of "110%" I think, but that is now too small...

- Any thoughts?


Ship
Shiperton Henethe

Samsung Synchmaster 244T /SM244T, WindowsXP Pro (latest patches),
graphics card: Matrox Millennium P650 PCIe 128

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Vieux 14/09/2007, 23h37   #2
ToddAndMargo
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ship wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have just got a "high resolution" LCD monitor (a Samsung Synchmaster
> 244T since you ask) and its native resolution is fairly high
> (1920x1200).
>
> Although the monitor itself is something of a joy(!), a normal
> settings that resolution leaves my text way too small! I am
> experimenting with changing the font size.
>
> ( See: Display properties => Settings => Advanced => DPI Setting =>
> Large Size [120DPI - 125% normal size] )
>
> The problem is that many web pages look rather weird.
> (e.g. http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ has the search box in the wrong
> place...)
>
> Also in Windows Outlook(2003), the names of folders on the LH of the
> screen
> are not showing their full names! The names are being trimmed off...
>
> - Do you guys think that changing the DPI is a mistake?
>
> I suppose the other option would be to set the text size back to
> normal and move
> the monitor a *LOT* closer.?? On my previous screen I had it at a
> custom setting of "110%" I think, but that is now too small...
>
> - Any thoughts?
>
>
> Ship
> Shiperton Henethe
>
> Samsung Synchmaster 244T /SM244T, WindowsXP Pro (latest patches),
> graphics card: Matrox Millennium P650 PCIe 128
>


Try going into "Display Properties", "Appearance" tab,
and changing "font size" to "Extra large Fonts".

HTH,
-T
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Vieux 15/09/2007, 00h40   #3
Eric Gisin
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"ship" <shiphen@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have just got a "high resolution" LCD monitor (a Samsung Synchmaster
> 244T since you ask) and its native resolution is fairly high
> (1920x1200).
>
> Although the monitor itself is something of a joy(!), a normal
> settings that resolution leaves my text way too small! I am
> experimenting with changing the font size.
>
> ( See: Display properties => Settings => Advanced => DPI Setting =>
> Large Size [120DPI - 125% normal size] )
>
> The problem is that many web pages look rather weird.
> (e.g. http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ has the search box in the wrong
> place...)
>
> Also in Windows Outlook(2003), the names of folders on the LH of the
> screen
> are not showing their full names! The names are being trimmed off...
>
> - Do you guys think that changing the DPI is a mistake?
>

The Normal/Large font setting has been there since Win 3.0,
originally to support the 16" IBM XGA monitor at 1024x768.

I find it necessary on all LCD monitors.
I bought a 22" because the pixels are larger than 20".

Yes, I notice bugs in all sorts of programs that were not properly tested.
I find I can work around them or live with them. Better than going blind.

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Vieux 15/09/2007, 03h50   #4
Wayne Sallee
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ship wrote on 9/14/2007 5:36 PM:
> Hi
>
> I have just got a "high resolution" LCD monitor (a Samsung Synchmaster
> 244T since you ask) and its native resolution is fairly high
> (1920x1200).
>
> Although the monitor itself is something of a joy(!), a normal
> settings that resolution leaves my text way too small! I am
> experimenting with changing the font size.
>
> ( See: Display properties => Settings => Advanced => DPI Setting =>
> Large Size [120DPI - 125% normal size] )
>
> The problem is that many web pages look rather weird.
> (e.g. http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ has the search box in the wrong
> place...)
>
> Also in Windows Outlook(2003), the names of folders on the LH of the
> screen
> are not showing their full names! The names are being trimmed off...
>
> - Do you guys think that changing the DPI is a mistake?
>
> I suppose the other option would be to set the text size back to
> normal and move
> the monitor a *LOT* closer.?? On my previous screen I had it at a
> custom setting of "110%" I think, but that is now too small...
>
> - Any thoughts?
>
>
> Ship
> Shiperton Henethe
>
> Samsung Synchmaster 244T /SM244T, WindowsXP Pro (latest patches),
> graphics card: Matrox Millennium P650 PCIe 128
>

There are a variety of settings you can try to see
what gives you the best results, but yes it's sad
that programmers, and web page designers don't write
better code.

Also you don't have to use the full monitor
resolution, you can use a lower monitor resolution.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com
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Vieux 15/09/2007, 05h07   #5
Paul Randall
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You might want to try using a lower display resolution. This makes LCD
displays noticably fuzzy, but it can be much more readable depending on your
particular setup. This can allow you to use a more normal font size which
won't mess with the formatting.

-Paul Randall

"ship" <shiphen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189805778.887882.13510@g4g2000hsf.googlegrou ps.com...
>
> Hi
>
> I have just got a "high resolution" LCD monitor (a Samsung Synchmaster
> 244T since you ask) and its native resolution is fairly high
> (1920x1200).
>
> Although the monitor itself is something of a joy(!), a normal
> settings that resolution leaves my text way too small! I am
> experimenting with changing the font size.
>
> ( See: Display properties => Settings => Advanced => DPI Setting =>
> Large Size [120DPI - 125% normal size] )
>
> The problem is that many web pages look rather weird.
> (e.g. http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ has the search box in the wrong
> place...)
>
> Also in Windows Outlook(2003), the names of folders on the LH of the
> screen
> are not showing their full names! The names are being trimmed off...
>
> - Do you guys think that changing the DPI is a mistake?
>
> I suppose the other option would be to set the text size back to
> normal and move
> the monitor a *LOT* closer.?? On my previous screen I had it at a
> custom setting of "110%" I think, but that is now too small...
>
> - Any thoughts?
>
>
> Ship
> Shiperton Henethe
>
> Samsung Synchmaster 244T /SM244T, WindowsXP Pro (latest patches),
> graphics card: Matrox Millennium P650 PCIe 128
>



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Vieux 15/09/2007, 07h55   #6
Jim Byrd
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Hi Ship - one thing you might want to do is to get the MS Clear Type Tuning
Power Toy, here:

http://www.microsoft.com/typography/...ePowerToy.mspx

It can make a significant difference.


--
Regards, Jim Byrd,
My Blog, Defending Your Machine,
http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/



In news:1189805778.887882.13510@g4g2000hsf.googlegrou ps.com,
ship <shiphen@gmail.com> typed:
|| Hi
||
|| I have just got a "high resolution" LCD monitor (a Samsung
|| Synchmaster 244T since you ask) and its native resolution is fairly
|| high (1920x1200).
||
|| Although the monitor itself is something of a joy(!), a normal
|| settings that resolution leaves my text way too small! I am
|| experimenting with changing the font size.
||
|| ( See: Display properties => Settings => Advanced => DPI Setting =>
|| Large Size [120DPI - 125% normal size] )
||
|| The problem is that many web pages look rather weird.
|| (e.g. http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ has the search box in the
|| wrong place...)
||
|| Also in Windows Outlook(2003), the names of folders on the LH of the
|| screen
|| are not showing their full names! The names are being trimmed off...
||
|| - Do you guys think that changing the DPI is a mistake?
||
|| I suppose the other option would be to set the text size back to
|| normal and move
|| the monitor a *LOT* closer.?? On my previous screen I had it at a
|| custom setting of "110%" I think, but that is now too small...
||
|| - Any thoughts?
||
||
|| Ship
|| Shiperton Henethe
||
|| Samsung Synchmaster 244T /SM244T, WindowsXP Pro (latest patches),
|| graphics card: Matrox Millennium P650 PCIe 128


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Vieux 15/09/2007, 11h56   #7
Andy Dingley
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:36:18 -0700, ship <shiphen@gmail.com> wrote:

>The problem is that many web pages look rather weird.
>(e.g. http://www.computeractive.co.uk/ has the search box in the wrong
>place...)


It's an IE bug. "High res" displays encourage users (rightly) to set
their Windows desktop font size higher, so as to achieve physical font
sizes they can usefully see.

This breaks IE's default calculation though, as it applies the same
correction twice. A web CSS rule of body { font-size: 100%; } with a
desktop font size enlarged to 125% will be 1.25 times bigger than the
fonts used for the desktop, when it ought to be the same.

The fix for this is to abandon IE in favour of Firefox etc.

The best work-aound I know for IE is this HTML fragment (not embeddable
in a CSS stylesheet AFAIK). It accepts that there's no real fix for IE,
it assumes that more IE is running on moderately high-res screens than
anything else, and it doesn't degrade too badly for non-scaled desktop
fonts. Ugly, but that's IE for you.

<!--[if IE]>
<style type="text/css"/>
font-size: 80%;
</style>');
<![endif]-->

--
Cats have nine lives, which is why they rarely post to Usenet.
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Vieux 15/09/2007, 12h38   #8
ship
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Thanks - nice idea Jim, but I am a *webmaster* remember - i.e. I need
to know what my users are
seeing do straying too far down this kind of thing may be a
mistake...!


Ship


> Hi Ship - one thing you might want to do is to get the MS Clear Type Tuning
> Power Toy, here:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/typography/...ePowerToy.mspx
>
> It can make a significant difference.
>
> --
> Regards, Jim Byrd,
> My Blog, Defending Your Machine,http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/
>


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