Can't for the life of me figure out how to get a hr into a js write.

http://blinkynet.net/humor/index.html

I'd like a *scripted* <hr> just before the first line created by the
fist little script do that it separates the quote of the day from the
page intro above it. The reason I want it to be part of the script is
so if scripts are disabled and the separator isn't needed, it's not
rendered. (The nonscripted <hr> *after* the quote of the day will be
all the separation I need between the intro and the list.)

I've been able to make this work just fine with "<hr />" being the first
element in the first document.write:

document.write("<hr />" + "foo")

But validation fails with a you-can't-use-a-<hr>-there error.

So I look at W3Schools, which I think I've seen recommended here for
tutorials -- I'm obviously new to js.

Barely into the js tute, I see:

<q>

A JavaScript statement like this: document.write("<h1>" + name +
"</h1>") can write a variable text into an HTML page

</q>

Now if they can get a <h1> in there, why can't I get a <hr> in, using the
same method? Yes, I tried it with and without closing tags. Validator
won't have anything do do with it.

Is there a *simple* way to do that I want? No, I'm not going to do
twelve lines of code for one hr.


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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Can't for the life of me figure out how to get a hr into a js write.
>
> http://blinkynet.net/humor/index.html
>
> I'd like a *scripted* <hr> just before the first line created by the
> fist little script do that it separates the quote of the day from the

FIRST little script SO that it separates... Grrrrrr.

> page intro above it. The reason I want it to be part of the script is
> so if scripts are disabled and the separator isn't needed, it's not
> rendered. (The nonscripted <hr> *after* the quote of the day will be
> all the separation I need between the intro and the list.)
>
> I've been able to make this work just fine with "<hr />" being the first
> element in the first document.write:
>
> document.write("<hr />" + "foo")
>
> But validation fails with a you-can't-use-a-<hr>-there error.
>
> So I look at W3Schools, which I think I've seen recommended here for
> tutorials -- I'm obviously new to js.
>
> Barely into the js tute, I see:
>
><q>
>
> A JavaScript statement like this: document.write("<h1>" + name +
> "</h1>") can write a variable text into an HTML page
>
></q>
>
> Now if they can get a <h1> in there, why can't I get a <hr> in, using the
> same method? Yes, I tried it with and without closing tags. Validator
> won't have anything do do with it.
>
> Is there a *simple* way to do that I want? No, I'm not going to do
> twelve lines of code for one hr.
>
>


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On 2007-09-11, Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.invalid> wrote:
> Can't for the life of me figure out how to get a hr into a js write.
>
> http://blinkynet.net/humor/index.html
>
> I'd like a *scripted* <hr> just before the first line created by the

document.write() won't work?

> But validation fails with a you-can't-use-a-<hr>-there error.

So this would be an HTML issue, not a js issue. To which standard are you
writing? HTML 4 Transitional? Strict? XHTML Transitional? Strict?


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Steve Sobol wrote:
> On 2007-09-11, Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.invalid> wrote:
>> Can't for the life of me figure out how to get a hr into a js write.
>>
>> http://blinkynet.net/humor/index.html
>>
>> I'd like a *scripted* <hr> just before the first line created by the
>
> document.write() won't work?

As I said, it works, but it won't validate.

>> But validation fails with a you-can't-use-a-<hr>-there error.
>
> So this would be an HTML issue, not a js issue. To which standard are you

Call it what you'd like. As I stated, the problem is that I can't - via
js - figure out how to get something to validate that validates when I
do the same thing without the script. Putting an <hr> in the body
(correct - not within a <p> or <div> validates, but it won't if js
places it there.

> writing? HTML 4 Transitional? Strict? XHTML Transitional? Strict?

That's in my doctype. That kind of thing is why I gave the link.

I've been bad: XHTML because when I did a total rewrite of the site a
couple hears ago I thought that was The Coming Thing and wanted to not
go backward; but served as HTML because then I learned that browser
support was supposedly iffy for XHTML.


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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Steve Sobol wrote:
>> On 2007-09-11, Blinky the Shark <no.spam@box.invalid> wrote:
>>> Can't for the life of me figure out how to get a hr into a js write.
>>>
>>> http://blinkynet.net/humor/index.html
>>>
>>> I'd like a *scripted* <hr> just before the first line created by the
>>
>> document.write() won't work?
>
> As I said, it works, but it won't validate.
>
>>> But validation fails with a you-can't-use-a-<hr>-there error.
>>
>> So this would be an HTML issue, not a js issue. To which standard are you
>
> Call it what you'd like. As I stated, the problem is that I can't - via
> js - figure out how to get something to validate that validates when I
> do the same thing without the script. Putting an <hr> in the body
> (correct - not within a <p> or <div> validates, but it won't if js
> places it there.
>
>> writing? HTML 4 Transitional? Strict? XHTML Transitional? Strict?
>
> That's in my doctype. That kind of thing is why I gave the link.
>
> I've been bad: XHTML because when I did a total rewrite of the site a
> couple hears ago I thought that was The Coming Thing and wanted to not
> go backward; but served as HTML because then I learned that browser
> support was supposedly iffy for XHTML.

Here's test copy of that page with what I'm *trying* to do. See commented div.
When that <hr> is generated by a js document.write, it won't validate.
If I just put a <hr> in the same place in the page (in that div, or
just in the body without that div existing, the <hr> page validates.

http://blinkynet.net/humor/index2.html

Sorry I didn't link *this* before.

Again, I want the <hr> to be js-generated so that it's not there when js
is disabled -- in that case it's not needed because the whole
quote-of-the-day section isn't rendered.


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Blinky the Shark wrote:

> document.write("<hr />" + "foo")
>
> But validation fails with a you-can't-use-a-<hr>-there error.

Try:

document.write("<hr \/>" + "foo");

When using document.write() combined with XHTML, you need to escape the
closing slashes in end tags otherwise it won't validate. It should still
/work/ okay without it though.

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Dylan Parry wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
>> document.write("<hr />" + "foo")
>>
>> But validation fails with a you-can't-use-a-<hr>-there error.
>
> Try:
>
> document.write("<hr \/>" + "foo");
>
> When using document.write() combined with XHTML, you need to escape the
> closing slashes in end tags otherwise it won't validate. It should still
> /work/ okay without it though.

Nope. As before: works but won't validate.

Here, with your idea: http://blinkynet.net/humor/index2.html

Try it.

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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Can't for the life of me figure out how to get a hr into a js write.
>
> http://blinkynet.net/humor/index.html
>
> I'd like a *scripted* <hr> just before the first line created by the
> fist little script do that it separates the quote of the day from the
> page intro above it. The reason I want it to be part of the script is
> so if scripts are disabled and the separator isn't needed, it's not
> rendered. (The nonscripted <hr> *after* the quote of the day will be
> all the separation I need between the intro and the list.)
>
> I've been able to make this work just fine with "<hr />" being the first
> element in the first document.write:
>
> document.write("<hr />" + "foo")
>
> But validation fails with a you-can't-use-a-<hr>-there error.
>
> So I look at W3Schools, which I think I've seen recommended here for
> tutorials -- I'm obviously new to js.
>
> Barely into the js tute, I see:
>
> <q>
>
> A JavaScript statement like this: document.write("<h1>" + name +
> "</h1>") can write a variable text into an HTML page
>
> </q>
>
> Now if they can get a <h1> in there, why can't I get a <hr> in, using the
> same method? Yes, I tried it with and without closing tags. Validator
> won't have anything do do with it.
>
> Is there a *simple* way to do that I want? No, I'm not going to do
> twelve lines of code for one hr.
>
>

Are you sure it isn't just the validator not understanding js? Most
don't, and try to parse the js as html somehow. It doesn't mean the
page is invalid - just that the validator doesn't understand it.



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