What do you think about my new site?

04/09/2007, 12h55

I just put on line my new site called www.woman-2-woman.net I would
like to know what do you think about my site any ideas about
imporvements
ThankYou
Lisa

04/09/2007, 13h59

Lirdn wrote:
> I just put on line my new site called www.woman-2-woman.net I would
> like to know what do you think about my site any ideas about
> imporvements
> ThankYou
> Lisa
>

First and foremost, that blinking header must be sent to sit in the corner until
it settles down and learns how to play quietly with others. (Stop the blinking.)
When the text size changes on mouseover in the boxes,
the whole page jumps. You might want to just stick with a color change.

The colors are pleasant. Don't let anyone talk you into changing those.

04/09/2007, 16h19

Lirdn wrote:
> I just put on line my new site called www.woman-2-woman.net I would
> like to know what do you think about my site any ideas about
> imporvements

Caveat: I'm male, and so apparently not in your target demographic.

The offset of the Woman-2-Woman.net heading relative to the rest of the
page looks broken, like something was supposed to be centered but isn't.
And yes, kill the blinking.

That heading is coded as <div id='navigation'>Woman-2-Woman.net</div>,
when it appears much more like it ought to be <h1>Woman-2-Woman.net</h1>
or so. And what's "navigation" about that element?

It's always a real turn-off to me when a website makes ads a prominent
feature. Can't you move the Ads by Google down somewhere (if not off the
page completely ;-) )? And why would I ask to view ads about anything?

The colors don't do it for me, but mbstevens appears to like them...

Photos would be a nice touch, if they were relevant to your page. Even
simple BG images might , e.g., a stethoscope and thermometer behind
"Women's Health", some luggage or an airplane behind "Women Travellers".

Do get rid of all the extraneous space at the bottom of the page and at
the bottom of the table. It's bad enough you have a goofy little
sitemeter thingy, but it's easier to ignore if it's at the bottom of the
natural page than if I see a vertical scrollbar and then scroll scroll
scroll down to see what's there and it's... CRAP!

You're using CSS embedded and external stylesheets already, so there's
no excuse for this to generate vertical spacing:
<p> </p>
<p> </p>

You're using an external stylesheet, so why the embedded styles?

You don't need to "comment out" styling, as in
<style type="text/css">
<!--
body {
background-image: url();

If you've got a background image for the page, bring it on. Otherwise,
delete that line.

Your HTML does not validate. Go to http://validator.w3.org/ and see.

If you're not using XHTML for a reason (odds are you aren't) then go
with HTML 4.01 strict. Change your doctype to
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">

Using px for text, as in font-size: 24px; keeps users of IE <6 from
changing the text size. And yes, your a:hover size should be no
different from the unhovered size.

You need to get some proofreading . Violence against women is
horrible (sincerely, it sickens me), so don't make things worse by
spelling "torture" as "Torcher". ;-) You might also want to indicate
that your links go offsite, not to your own content.

Your markup contains

<p><a href="file:///C|/Documents and Settings/Lisa_Avi_Ilanit/My
Documents/life_site/Woman/Violence_Mutilation_Against_Women/Violence_Against_Women.html"></a></p>

which is an empty link (meaning visitors will almost certainly never
find it) to a file on your local PC (meaning even if they could click
the link, visitors would never get the file).

Your CSS includes a bunch of position:absolute; and z-index and #Layer7
junk, which is even more ridiculous since the pages are (mis)using
tables for layout. In general, your code (markup and CSS) is way too
complicated for the simple effect you're aiming for. If your page is to
get any kind of traffic at all, the maintenance of the site as it's now
constructed will kill it (and you). I suggest you start over, with
simple, basic markup, *then* styled for presentation.

And for critiques, you can post in alt.html.critique.

HTH. GL.

--
John
Pondering the value of the UIP: http://improve-usenet.org/

05/09/2007, 00h28

let it be known on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:55:06 -0700
Lirdn <lirdn1@gmail.com> scribed:

|I just put on line my new site called www.woman-2-woman.net I would
|like to know what do you think about my site any ideas about
|imporvements

Lisa,

First, fix the errors W3C found:
This page is not Valid XHTML 1.0 Strict!
Result: Failed validation, 14 Errors

The text-size change on mouseover of the links is very annoying.

Once I left the home page, there were no links back; only to the other sections/pages and a mailto link.

The borders on the section pages are not consistent at all, take a look:

http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...inst_Women.jpg
this one the border runs way down the page

http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...ryday_Life.jpg
this one the border doesn't even go the bottom of the background square

HTH
--
cf <cfnews@NOcharterSPAM.net>
I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid.
Terry Bradshaw

05/09/2007, 20h08

cf wrote...
>let it be known on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:55:06 -0700
> Lirdn <lirdn1@gmail.com> scribed:
>
>|I just put on line my new site called www.woman-2-woman.net I would
>|like to know what do you think about my site any ideas about
>|imporvements
>
>The borders on the section pages are not consistent at all, take a look:
>
>http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...inst_Women.jpg
>this one the border runs way down the page
>
>http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...ryday_Life.jpg
>this one the border doesn't even go the bottom of the background square
>
It looks worse on Firefox. I got a border of squares rather than
circles.

When I clicked on the "Violence against women" page and the text spilled
out across the borders and looked a real mess (at normal font size).
See:
http://www.tamevalley.freeserve.co.u...es/w2w-vaw.jpg
--
Martin Clark

05/09/2007, 20h08

cf wrote...
>let it be known on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:55:06 -0700
> Lirdn <lirdn1@gmail.com> scribed:
>
>|I just put on line my new site called www.woman-2-woman.net I would
>|like to know what do you think about my site any ideas about
>|imporvements
>
>The borders on the section pages are not consistent at all, take a look:
>
>http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...inst_Women.jpg
>this one the border runs way down the page
>
>http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...ryday_Life.jpg
>this one the border doesn't even go the bottom of the background square
>
It looks worse on Firefox. I got a border of squares rather than
circles.

When I clicked on the "Violence against women" page and the text spilled
out across the borders and looked a real mess (at normal font size).
See:
http://www.tamevalley.freeserve.co.u...es/w2w-vaw.jpg
--
Martin Clark

06/09/2007, 00h46

Martin Clark wrote:
> cf wrote...
>>let it be known on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:55:06 -0700
>> Lirdn <lirdn1@gmail.com> scribed:
>>
>>|I just put on line my new site called www.woman-2-woman.net I would
>>|like to know what do you think about my site any ideas about
>>|imporvements
>>
>>The borders on the section pages are not consistent at all, take a look:
>>
>>http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...inst_Women.jpg
>>this one the border runs way down the page
>>
>>http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...ryday_Life.jpg
>>this one the border doesn't even go the bottom of the background square
>>
> It looks worse on Firefox. I got a border of squares rather than
> circles.
>
> When I clicked on the "Violence against women" page and the text spilled
> out across the borders and looked a real mess (at normal font size).
> See:
> http://www.tamevalley.freeserve.co.u...es/w2w-vaw.jpg

This is looking like a drive-by. Remember, OP was a Google Groper;
usually they can't find their way back.

--
Blinky RLU 297263
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project:
http://improve-usenet.org <----------- New Site Aug 28

06/09/2007, 05h50

Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Martin Clark wrote:
>> cf wrote...
>>> let it be known on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:55:06 -0700
>>> Lirdn <lirdn1@gmail.com> scribed:
>>>
>>> |I just put on line my new site called www.woman-2-woman.net I would
>>> |like to know what do you think about my site any ideas about
>>> |imporvements
>>>
>>> The borders on the section pages are not consistent at all, take a look:
>>>
>>> http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...inst_Women.jpg
>>> this one the border runs way down the page
>>>
>>> http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...ryday_Life.jpg
>>> this one the border doesn't even go the bottom of the background square
>>>
>> It looks worse on Firefox. I got a border of squares rather than
>> circles.
>>
>> When I clicked on the "Violence against women" page and the text spilled
>> out across the borders and looked a real mess (at normal font size).
>> See:
>> http://www.tamevalley.freeserve.co.u...es/w2w-vaw.jpg
>
> This is looking like a drive-by. Remember, OP was a Google Groper;
> usually they can't find their way back.
>
>

I hate those colors, but that not withstanding, it looks positively
horrible in Firefox. Looking at the jpg's I have to assume it's code not
agreeing with Firefox.

--
"....a couple of belts of .50 BMG individually
engraved "Unsubscribe" - Cadbury Moose

04/09/2007, 12h55	#1 (permalink)
Lirdn Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	What do you think about my new site? I just put on line my new site called www.woman-2-woman.net I would like to know what do you think about my site any ideas about imporvements ThankYou Lisa

04/09/2007, 13h59	#2 (permalink)
mbstevens Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: What do you think about my new site? Lirdn wrote: > I just put on line my new site called www.woman-2-woman.net I would > like to know what do you think about my site any ideas about > imporvements > ThankYou > Lisa > First and foremost, that blinking header must be sent to sit in the corner until it settles down and learns how to play quietly with others. (Stop the blinking.) When the text size changes on mouseover in the boxes, the whole page jumps. You might want to just stick with a color change. The colors are pleasant. Don't let anyone talk you into changing those.

04/09/2007, 16h19	#3 (permalink)
John Hosking Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: What do you think about my new site? Lirdn wrote: > I just put on line my new site called www.woman-2-woman.net I would > like to know what do you think about my site any ideas about > imporvements Caveat: I'm male, and so apparently not in your target demographic. The offset of the Woman-2-Woman.net heading relative to the rest of the page looks broken, like something was supposed to be centered but isn't. And yes, kill the blinking. That heading is coded as <div id='navigation'>Woman-2-Woman.net</div>, when it appears much more like it ought to be <h1>Woman-2-Woman.net</h1> or so. And what's "navigation" about that element? It's always a real turn-off to me when a website makes ads a prominent feature. Can't you move the Ads by Google down somewhere (if not off the page completely ;-) )? And why would I ask to view ads about anything? The colors don't do it for me, but mbstevens appears to like them... Photos would be a nice touch, if they were relevant to your page. Even simple BG images might , e.g., a stethoscope and thermometer behind "Women's Health", some luggage or an airplane behind "Women Travellers". Do get rid of all the extraneous space at the bottom of the page and at the bottom of the table. It's bad enough you have a goofy little sitemeter thingy, but it's easier to ignore if it's at the bottom of the natural page than if I see a vertical scrollbar and then scroll scroll scroll down to see what's there and it's... CRAP! You're using CSS embedded and external stylesheets already, so there's no excuse for this to generate vertical spacing: <p> </p> <p> </p> You're using an external stylesheet, so why the embedded styles? You don't need to "comment out" styling, as in <style type="text/css"> <!-- body { background-image: url(); If you've got a background image for the page, bring it on. Otherwise, delete that line. Your HTML does not validate. Go to http://validator.w3.org/ and see. If you're not using XHTML for a reason (odds are you aren't) then go with HTML 4.01 strict. Change your doctype to <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> Using px for text, as in font-size: 24px; keeps users of IE <6 from changing the text size. And yes, your a:hover size should be no different from the unhovered size. You need to get some proofreading . Violence against women is horrible (sincerely, it sickens me), so don't make things worse by spelling "torture" as "Torcher". ;-) You might also want to indicate that your links go offsite, not to your own content. Your markup contains <p><a href="file:///C\|/Documents and Settings/Lisa_Avi_Ilanit/My Documents/life_site/Woman/Violence_Mutilation_Against_Women/Violence_Against_Women.html"></a></p> which is an empty link (meaning visitors will almost certainly never find it) to a file on your local PC (meaning even if they could click the link, visitors would never get the file). Your CSS includes a bunch of position:absolute; and z-index and #Layer7 junk, which is even more ridiculous since the pages are (mis)using tables for layout. In general, your code (markup and CSS) is way too complicated for the simple effect you're aiming for. If your page is to get any kind of traffic at all, the maintenance of the site as it's now constructed will kill it (and you). I suggest you start over, with simple, basic markup, then styled for presentation. And for critiques, you can post in alt.html.critique. HTH. GL. -- John Pondering the value of the UIP: http://improve-usenet.org/

05/09/2007, 00h28	#4 (permalink)
cf Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: What do you think about my new site? let it be known on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:55:06 -0700 Lirdn <lirdn1@gmail.com> scribed: \|I just put on line my new site called www.woman-2-woman.net I would \|like to know what do you think about my site any ideas about \|imporvements Lisa, First, fix the errors W3C found: This page is not Valid XHTML 1.0 Strict! Result: Failed validation, 14 Errors The text-size change on mouseover of the links is very annoying. Once I left the home page, there were no links back; only to the other sections/pages and a mailto link. The borders on the section pages are not consistent at all, take a look: http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...inst_Women.jpg this one the border runs way down the page http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...ryday_Life.jpg this one the border doesn't even go the bottom of the background square HTH -- cf <cfnews@NOcharterSPAM.net> I may be dumb, but I'm not stupid. Terry Bradshaw

05/09/2007, 20h08	#5 (permalink)
Martin Clark Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: What do you think about my new site? cf wrote... >let it be known on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:55:06 -0700 > Lirdn <lirdn1@gmail.com> scribed: > >\|I just put on line my new site called www.woman-2-woman.net I would >\|like to know what do you think about my site any ideas about >\|imporvements > >The borders on the section pages are not consistent at all, take a look: > >http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...inst_Women.jpg >this one the border runs way down the page > >http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...ryday_Life.jpg >this one the border doesn't even go the bottom of the background square > It looks worse on Firefox. I got a border of squares rather than circles. When I clicked on the "Violence against women" page and the text spilled out across the borders and looked a real mess (at normal font size). See: http://www.tamevalley.freeserve.co.u...es/w2w-vaw.jpg -- Martin Clark

05/09/2007, 20h08	#6 (permalink)
Martin Clark Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: What do you think about my new site? cf wrote... >let it be known on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:55:06 -0700 > Lirdn <lirdn1@gmail.com> scribed: > >\|I just put on line my new site called www.woman-2-woman.net I would >\|like to know what do you think about my site any ideas about >\|imporvements > >The borders on the section pages are not consistent at all, take a look: > >http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...inst_Women.jpg >this one the border runs way down the page > >http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...ryday_Life.jpg >this one the border doesn't even go the bottom of the background square > It looks worse on Firefox. I got a border of squares rather than circles. When I clicked on the "Violence against women" page and the text spilled out across the borders and looked a real mess (at normal font size). See: http://www.tamevalley.freeserve.co.u...es/w2w-vaw.jpg -- Martin Clark

06/09/2007, 00h46	#7 (permalink)
Blinky the Shark Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: What do you think about my new site? Martin Clark wrote: > cf wrote... >>let it be known on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:55:06 -0700 >> Lirdn <lirdn1@gmail.com> scribed: >> >>\|I just put on line my new site called www.woman-2-woman.net I would >>\|like to know what do you think about my site any ideas about >>\|imporvements >> >>The borders on the section pages are not consistent at all, take a look: >> >>http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...inst_Women.jpg >>this one the border runs way down the page >> >>http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...ryday_Life.jpg >>this one the border doesn't even go the bottom of the background square >> > It looks worse on Firefox. I got a border of squares rather than > circles. > > When I clicked on the "Violence against women" page and the text spilled > out across the borders and looked a real mess (at normal font size). > See: > http://www.tamevalley.freeserve.co.u...es/w2w-vaw.jpg This is looking like a drive-by. Remember, OP was a Google Groper; usually they can't find their way back. -- Blinky RLU 297263 Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org <----------- New Site Aug 28

06/09/2007, 05h50	#8 (permalink)
WindsorFox Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: What do you think about my new site? Blinky the Shark wrote: > Martin Clark wrote: >> cf wrote... >>> let it be known on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:55:06 -0700 >>> Lirdn <lirdn1@gmail.com> scribed: >>> >>> \|I just put on line my new site called www.woman-2-woman.net I would >>> \|like to know what do you think about my site any ideas about >>> \|imporvements >>> >>> The borders on the section pages are not consistent at all, take a look: >>> >>> http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...inst_Women.jpg >>> this one the border runs way down the page >>> >>> http://www.cnswebs.net/stuff/woman2w...ryday_Life.jpg >>> this one the border doesn't even go the bottom of the background square >>> >> It looks worse on Firefox. I got a border of squares rather than >> circles. >> >> When I clicked on the "Violence against women" page and the text spilled >> out across the borders and looked a real mess (at normal font size). >> See: >> http://www.tamevalley.freeserve.co.u...es/w2w-vaw.jpg > > This is looking like a drive-by. Remember, OP was a Google Groper; > usually they can't find their way back. > > I hate those colors, but that not withstanding, it looks positively horrible in Firefox. Looking at the jpg's I have to assume it's code not agreeing with Firefox. -- "....a couple of belts of .50 BMG individually engraved "Unsubscribe" - Cadbury Moose

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