Why does everyone think craigslist is so great? I can't get my posts to
stay 15 minutes sometimes before someone flags it for deletion. I try to
obey the terms, I post on topic just like everyone else. Sometimes my posts
don't even show up even if I never get a message saying they were deleted.

Seems like everyone is brainwashed into thinking craigslist is so great. It
is unreliable.

I would like to post my ads here, but I won't. I suppose they would be
attacked as spam or off-topic. Is it appropriate to bitch about craigslist
here? That is all I wish to do.

Maybe I could get some volunteers to me post some announcements? Just
a thought, nevermind.

Thanks.

Zewpi wrote:
> Why does everyone think craigslist is so great?

Not everyone does. Are you trolling?

> I try to obey the terms, I post on topic just like everyone else.

Except here in a.w.w.

>
> I would like to post my ads here, but I won't. I suppose they would be
> attacked as spam or off-topic.

Here in a.w.webmaster? Ads are off-topic *and* spam here.

> Is it appropriate to bitch about craigslist here?

No. Bye, now.

> That is all I wish to do.

It's good to have clear goals.


--
John
Pondering the value of the UIP: http://improve-usenet.org/

"Zewpi" <zewpi01@cox.net> wrote in
news:h0uBi.222957$BX3.189106@newsfe13.lga:

> Why does everyone think craigslist is so great? I can't get my posts
> to stay 15 minutes sometimes before someone flags it for deletion. I
> try to obey the terms, I post on topic just like everyone else.
> Sometimes my posts don't even show up even if I never get a message
> saying they were deleted.
>
> Seems like everyone is brainwashed into thinking craigslist is so
> great. It is unreliable.
>
> I would like to post my ads here, but I won't. I suppose they would
> be attacked as spam or off-topic. Is it appropriate to bitch about
> craigslist here? That is all I wish to do.
>
> Maybe I could get some volunteers to me post some announcements?
> Just a thought, nevermind.
>
> Thanks.
>

Sounds to me like your posts get flagged as spam and get dumped. That's a
good thing, IMO. More users of Craigslist should be aggressive about
flagging spam posts. From where I stand, craigs list is a big turd and its
mostly because of the spammers and scammers.



--
Karl Groves
http://www.8pistons.com
http://www.thehotrodclassifieds.com
http://www.grayscalecms.com
http://www.karlcore.com

"Karl Groves" <karl@NOSPAMkarlcore.com> wrote in message
news:Xns999C5D371DAF0karlkarlcorecom@130.81.64.196 ...
> "Zewpi" <zewpi01@cox.net> wrote in
> news:h0uBi.222957$BX3.189106@newsfe13.lga:
>
>> Why does everyone think craigslist is so great? I can't get my posts
>> to stay 15 minutes sometimes before someone flags it for deletion. I
>> try to obey the terms, I post on topic just like everyone else.
>> Sometimes my posts don't even show up even if I never get a message
>> saying they were deleted.
>>
>> Seems like everyone is brainwashed into thinking craigslist is so
>> great. It is unreliable.
>>
>> I would like to post my ads here, but I won't. I suppose they would
>> be attacked as spam or off-topic. Is it appropriate to bitch about
>> craigslist here? That is all I wish to do.
>>
>> Maybe I could get some volunteers to me post some announcements?
>> Just a thought, nevermind.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>
> Sounds to me like your posts get flagged as spam and get dumped. That's a
> good thing, IMO. More users of Craigslist should be aggressive about
> flagging spam posts. From where I stand, craigs list is a big turd and
> its
> mostly because of the spammers and scammers.
>
>
>
> --
> Karl Groves
> http://www.8pistons.com
> http://www.thehotrodclassifieds.com
> http://www.grayscalecms.com
> http://www.karlcore.com
>

Wasn't looking for opinions on if I am spamming or not? That is like
arguing religion and politics. We are not going to solve it today. I have
a business, I need to advertise, survival depends on it - simple. Also not
violating www terms as I will not post any link whatsoever to any of my
sites in this message. If you are curious, email me.

Really, I'm just asking a question. Does anyone have so much trouble with
craigslist? How many complaints does it take to get a post removed? Seems
to me that your competition can send a few complaints and have your posts
removed whether you deserve it or not. Also, I really have to make sure my
posts "actually" get posted. Many times I post and there is no warning that
it has been deleted, but I search through the ads and my ad is never there.

Zewpi wrote:
> "Karl Groves" <karl@NOSPAMkarlcore.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns999C5D371DAF0karlkarlcorecom@130.81.64.196 ...
>> "Zewpi" <zewpi01@cox.net> wrote in
>> news:h0uBi.222957$BX3.189106@newsfe13.lga:
>>
>>> Why does everyone think craigslist is so great? I can't get my
>>> posts to stay 15 minutes sometimes before someone flags it for
>>> deletion. I try to obey the terms, I post on topic just like
>>> everyone else. Sometimes my posts don't even show up even if I
>>> never get a message saying they were deleted.
>>>
>>> Seems like everyone is brainwashed into thinking craigslist is so
>>> great. It is unreliable.
>>>
>>> I would like to post my ads here, but I won't. I suppose they would
>>> be attacked as spam or off-topic. Is it appropriate to bitch about
>>> craigslist here? That is all I wish to do.
>>>
>>> Maybe I could get some volunteers to me post some
>>> announcements? Just a thought, nevermind.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>
>> Sounds to me like your posts get flagged as spam and get dumped. That's a
>> good thing, IMO. More users of Craigslist should be
>> aggressive about flagging spam posts. From where I stand, craigs
>> list is a big turd and its
>> mostly because of the spammers and scammers.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Karl Groves
>> http://www.8pistons.com
>> http://www.thehotrodclassifieds.com
>> http://www.grayscalecms.com
>> http://www.karlcore.com
>>
>
> Wasn't looking for opinions on if I am spamming or not? That is like
> arguing religion and politics. We are not going to solve it today. I have
> a business, I need to advertise, survival depends on it -
> simple. Also not violating www terms as I will not post any link
> whatsoever to any of my sites in this message. If you are curious,
> email me.
> Really, I'm just asking a question. Does anyone have so much trouble
> with craigslist? How many complaints does it take to get a post
> removed? Seems to me that your competition can send a few complaints
> and have your posts removed whether you deserve it or not. Also, I
> really have to make sure my posts "actually" get posted. Many times
> I post and there is no warning that it has been deleted, but I search
> through the ads and my ad is never there.

it's free
right?

you're business depends on wrasslin with folks who have power over your
advert venues?

"Zewpi" <zewpi01@cox.net> wrote in
news:9a%Bi.239181$dA7.23064@newsfe16.lga:


>
> Wasn't looking for opinions on if I am spamming or not?

You got it anyway.

> I
> have a business, I need to advertise, survival depends on it - simple.

Then pay for advertising or place your listing in a location which allows
you to post advertisements.

case-in-point: alt.www.webmaster.ads is *absolutely* an appropriate place
for advertising webmaster related products and services.
alt.www.webmaster is not.

Similarly, there are categories on craigslist within which it is
appropriate for you to advertise your product or services. My intuition
tells me that your listings were not in the appropriate category and
that's why they were flagged.

> Also not violating www terms as I will not post any link whatsoever
> to any of my sites in this message. If you are curious, email me.

No, thanks.

> Really, I'm just asking a question. Does anyone have so much trouble
> with craigslist?

Nope.
I had one listing removed. I have a large number of used car parts for
sale and instead of posting one item per ad, I posted a link to a page on
my site that had the complete list of parts and pictures of each. The ad
was promptly flagged and removed.

In retrospect it *was* a violation of their rules. However silly I think
it was for someone to flag the ad, I was in the wrong. I subsequently
copied & pasted the HTML from my site into the ad and all was well.

I have placed dozens of other ads on craigslist and NONE OF THEM (other
than the aforementioned list of parts) has ever been removed.


> How many complaints does it take to get a post
> removed?

One.

> Seems to me that your competition can send a few complaints
> and have your posts removed whether you deserve it or not.

Yup. I doubt that's what the case in your situation, though.

--
Karl Groves
http://www.8pistons.com
http://www.thehotrodclassifieds.com
http://www.grayscalecms.com
http://www.karlcore.com

"G" <.@.> wrote in message news:46d8814d$0$14061$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> Zewpi wrote:
>> "Karl Groves" <karl@NOSPAMkarlcore.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns999C5D371DAF0karlkarlcorecom@130.81.64.196 ...
>>> "Zewpi" <zewpi01@cox.net> wrote in
>>> news:h0uBi.222957$BX3.189106@newsfe13.lga:
>>>
>>>> Why does everyone think craigslist is so great? I can't get my
>>>> posts to stay 15 minutes sometimes before someone flags it for
>>>> deletion. I try to obey the terms, I post on topic just like
>>>> everyone else. Sometimes my posts don't even show up even if I
>>>> never get a message saying they were deleted.
>>>>
>>>> Seems like everyone is brainwashed into thinking craigslist is so
>>>> great. It is unreliable.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to post my ads here, but I won't. I suppose they would
>>>> be attacked as spam or off-topic. Is it appropriate to bitch about
>>>> craigslist here? That is all I wish to do.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I could get some volunteers to me post some
>>>> announcements? Just a thought, nevermind.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds to me like your posts get flagged as spam and get dumped. That's
>>> a good thing, IMO. More users of Craigslist should be
>>> aggressive about flagging spam posts. From where I stand, craigs
>>> list is a big turd and its
>>> mostly because of the spammers and scammers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Karl Groves
>>> http://www.8pistons.com
>>> http://www.thehotrodclassifieds.com
>>> http://www.grayscalecms.com
>>> http://www.karlcore.com
>>>
>>
>> Wasn't looking for opinions on if I am spamming or not? That is like
>> arguing religion and politics. We are not going to solve it today. I
>> have a business, I need to advertise, survival depends on it -
>> simple. Also not violating www terms as I will not post any link
>> whatsoever to any of my sites in this message. If you are curious,
>> email me.
>> Really, I'm just asking a question. Does anyone have so much trouble
>> with craigslist? How many complaints does it take to get a post
>> removed? Seems to me that your competition can send a few complaints
>> and have your posts removed whether you deserve it or not. Also, I
>> really have to make sure my posts "actually" get posted. Many times
>> I post and there is no warning that it has been deleted, but I search
>> through the ads and my ad is never there.
>
> it's free
> right?
>
This is an excuse? Would at least like to warn everyone that it is a crappy
service, don't you think?

> you're business depends on wrasslin with folks who have power over your
> advert venues?
>
Folks that have many dirty little tricks and a lot of money.

"Karl Groves" <karl@NOSPAMkarlcore.com> wrote in message
news:Xns999DAF147FFFEkarlkarlcorecom@130.81.64.196 ...
> "Zewpi" <zewpi01@cox.net> wrote in
> news:9a%Bi.239181$dA7.23064@newsfe16.lga:
>
>
>>
>> Wasn't looking for opinions on if I am spamming or not?
>
> You got it anyway.
>
Wow, thanks.


>> I
>> have a business, I need to advertise, survival depends on it - simple.
>
> Then pay for advertising or place your listing in a location which allows
> you to post advertisements.
>
How do you know that I don't? I would think I have the right to pursue any,
some,
many, or all avenues of promotion whether they be free or not.


> case-in-point: alt.www.webmaster.ads is *absolutely* an appropriate place
> for advertising webmaster related products and services.
> alt.www.webmaster is not.
>
> Similarly, there are categories on craigslist within which it is
> appropriate for you to advertise your product or services. My intuition
> tells me that your listings were not in the appropriate category and
> that's why they were flagged.
>
>> Also not violating www terms as I will not post any link whatsoever
>> to any of my sites in this message. If you are curious, email me.
>
> No, thanks.
>
I absolutley knew I would get a remark on that statement, you fell right
into my expectations.


>> Really, I'm just asking a question. Does anyone have so much trouble
>> with craigslist?
>
> Nope.
> I had one listing removed. I have a large number of used car parts for
> sale and instead of posting one item per ad, I posted a link to a page on
> my site that had the complete list of parts and pictures of each. The ad
> was promptly flagged and removed.
>
> In retrospect it *was* a violation of their rules. However silly I think
> it was for someone to flag the ad, I was in the wrong. I subsequently
> copied & pasted the HTML from my site into the ad and all was well.
>
> I have placed dozens of other ads on craigslist and NONE OF THEM (other
> than the aforementioned list of parts) has ever been removed.
>
>
>> How many complaints does it take to get a post
>> removed?
>
> One.
>
>> Seems to me that your competition can send a few complaints
>> and have your posts removed whether you deserve it or not.
>
> Yup. I doubt that's what the case in your situation, though.
>
Again, appreciate the opinion. At least you answered my question, though.

> --
> Karl Groves
> http://www.8pistons.com
> http://www.thehotrodclassifieds.com
> http://www.grayscalecms.com
> http://www.karlcore.com
>
What is all this?