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Vieux 29/08/2007, 23h34   #1 (permalink)
Martin Harran
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<rant_mode>

WTF do people still send out bounces for non-existent email addresses? Some
f**ker is using one of my domains for dictionary style spamming and I got
nearly 2K bounces this morning.

I hate people who set up these bounces almost as much as I hate spammers.

</rant_mode>


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Vieux 29/08/2007, 23h56   #2 (permalink)
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:34:40 +0100, Martin Harran <nospam@martinharran.com> wrote:
><rant_mode>
>
> WTF do people still send out bounces for non-existent email addresses? Some
> f**ker is using one of my domains for dictionary style spamming and I got
> nearly 2K bounces this morning.
>
> I hate people who set up these bounces almost as much as I hate spammers.
>
></rant_mode>
>
>


You could not be more wrong. Also use procmail to filter the nounces
out, temporarily.

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Vieux 30/08/2007, 04h53   #3 (permalink)
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Martin Harran wrote:
> <rant_mode>
>
> WTF do people still send out bounces for non-existent email
> addresses? Some f**ker is using one of my domains for dictionary
> style spamming and I got nearly 2K bounces this morning.
>
> I hate people who set up these bounces almost as much as I hate
> spammers.
> </rant_mode>


Report as many as you can to www.spamcop.net since it is a form of spam..


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Vieux 30/08/2007, 04h54   #4 (permalink)
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Ignoramus31174 wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:34:40 +0100, Martin Harran
> <nospam@martinharran.com> wrote:
>> <rant_mode>
>>
>> WTF do people still send out bounces for non-existent email
>> addresses? Some f**ker is using one of my domains for dictionary
>> style spamming and I got nearly 2K bounces this morning.
>>
>> I hate people who set up these bounces almost as much as I hate
>> spammers.
>>
>> </rant_mode>
>>
>>

>
> You could not be more wrong. Also use procmail to filter the nounces
> out, temporarily.
>

He isnt wrong. If you cant bounce DURING the SMTP connection you should NOT
bounce at all.
It is reportable to SpamCop...
http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/329.html


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Vieux 30/08/2007, 05h43   #5 (permalink)
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Hi Martin -

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:34:40 +0100, "Martin Harran"
<nospam@martinharran.com> wrote:

><rant_mode>
>
>WTF do people still send out bounces for non-existent email addresses? Some
>f**ker is using one of my domains for dictionary style spamming and I got
>nearly 2K bounces this morning.
>
>I hate people who set up these bounces almost as much as I hate spammers.
>
></rant_mode>


Right on. That's a clear sign that whoever is responsible for the
bounce-generating server doesn't know what the heck they're doing. Or
knows and doesn't, which is worse.

As far as I'm concerned, unless I need to receive email from that
server, a router block is the remedy of choice.

--
Ken
http://www.kensims.net/
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Vieux 30/08/2007, 08h17   #6 (permalink)
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"Martin Harran" <nospam@martinharran.com> wrote in message
news:5jmak8Fb0huU1@mid.individual.net...
> <rant_mode>
>
> WTF do people still send out bounces for non-existent email addresses?
> Some f**ker is using one of my domains for dictionary style spamming and I
> got nearly 2K bounces this morning.
>
> I hate people who set up these bounces almost as much as I hate spammers.
>
> </rant_mode>


It could be that this is the spam you are receiving.

I've received spam where it was made to look like I tried to email spam to
somebody and it was being bounced back to me or replied to via an autoreply


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Vieux 30/08/2007, 10h24   #7 (permalink)
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"Auggie" <Imperial.Palace@Rome.It> wrote in message
news:CauBi.4539$Pd4.4097@edtnps82...
>
> "Martin Harran" <nospam@martinharran.com> wrote in message
> news:5jmak8Fb0huU1@mid.individual.net...
>> <rant_mode>
>>
>> WTF do people still send out bounces for non-existent email addresses?
>> Some f**ker is using one of my domains for dictionary style spamming and
>> I got nearly 2K bounces this morning.
>>
>> I hate people who set up these bounces almost as much as I hate
>> spammers.
>>
>> </rant_mode>

>
> It could be that this is the spam you are receiving.
>
> I've received spam where it was made to look like I tried to email spam to
> somebody and it was being bounced back to me or replied to via an
> autoreply


Yes, its known as a Reverse NDR attack
((http://www.cryer.co.uk/glossary/r/reverse_ndr.htm). The spammer uses a
remote server to delivery spam by setting the sender's address to the email
address of the target.

As the OP correctly said, this is indicative that the server generating the
NDR's is mis-configured. The server should reject the email at the point of
delivery, not receive it and then generate an NDR. I don't know about other
email systems, but the out of the box Microsoft Exchange (2003) settings
allow this type of relaying although it can (and should) be disabled.
Hopefully Microsoft have changed their default configuration for Exchange
2007.
--
Brian Cryer
www.cryer.co.uk/brian


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Vieux 06/09/2007, 21h12   #8 (permalink)
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:24:48 +0100, "Brian Cryer"
<brian.cryer@127.0.0.1.ntlworld.com> wrote:


>As the OP correctly said, this is indicative that the server generating the
>NDR's is mis-configured. The server should reject the email at the point of
>delivery, not receive it and then generate an NDR. I don't know about other
>email systems, but the out of the box Microsoft Exchange (2003) settings
>allow this type of relaying although it can (and should) be disabled.
>Hopefully Microsoft have changed their default configuration for Exchange
>2007.


I just came here to see if anyone else was getting this also, I've
gotten about 7k bounced, autoresponder, etc messages (and 1 "plz
remove me from your list" message lol)

It's all happening on domain for a website I run, but I dont pay for
the domain or hosting (both through Godaddy), is there anything I can
tell the person who does pay for it to tell Godaddy to stop it?

--
If it keeps up, man will atrophy all his limbs but the push-button finger.
~Frank Lloyd Wright - www.cynode.com | (NSFW) www.cynbabes.com (NWS)
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