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Vieux 30/11/2006, 04h40   #1 (permalink)
aquamarine
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Par défaut Newbie need on upgrading/installing "current weekly snapshot CDs"

Hi all,

I am a pure newbie on Linux/Debian coming from Windows world!
I downloaded just 3 of the 21 CDs from
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/we...s/i386/iso-cd/ website,
booted the 1st CD and install testing Debian successfully.

The main point is that I found no way to install my other 2 CDs. By
the way, I cannot find: (1) Software Sources settings (2) Synaptic
Package Manager to update my system.


Another method I tried:
open a terminal, and typed:
(1) su -
(2) apt-get update

<<Message Start>>
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot CD
i386 Binary-1 20061127-10:21] etch Release.gpg
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot CD
i386 Binary-1 20061127-10:21] etch Release
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot CD
i386 Binary-1 20061127-10:21] etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot CD
i386 Binary-1 20061127-10:21] etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Get:1 http://debian.crosslink.net etch Release.gpg [189B]
Get:2 http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release.gpg [189B]
Hit http://debian.crosslink.net etch Release
Hit http://debian.crosslink.net etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release
Hit http://debian.crosslink.net etch/main Sources/DiffIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources/DiffIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Sources/DiffIndex
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Sources
Fetched 2B in 5s (0B/s)
Reading package lists...

<<Message End>>

Is there any way to edit a config file (something like that) by
subsequent snapshot CDs and web links/ download sites as that of
Xubuntu/Ubuntu's Software Sources program???

Please


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Vieux 30/11/2006, 05h00   #2 (permalink)
Alan Ianson
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On Wed November 29 2006 08:13 pm, aquamarine wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am a pure newbie on Linux/Debian coming from Windows world!
> I downloaded just 3 of the 21 CDs from
> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/we...s/i386/iso-cd/ website,
> booted the 1st CD and install testing Debian successfully.
>
> The main point is that I found no way to install my other 2 CDs.


From the console run "apt-cdrom add" to add more cd's.

> By the way, I cannot find: (1) Software Sources settings


/etc/apt/sources.list is where apt-get / dselect / aptitude / Synaptic get
their info about software/package sources. man apt and man apt-get will
provide more info.

> (2) Synaptic
> Package Manager to update my system.


Synaptic is a graphical desktop app, you'll need x and the desktop environment
of your choice to run it. If you already have that "apt-get install synaptic"
should install it for you.

> Another method I tried:
> open a terminal, and typed:
> (1) su -
> (2) apt-get update
>
> <<Message Start>>
> Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot CD
> i386 Binary-1 20061127-10:21] etch Release.gpg
> Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot CD
> i386 Binary-1 20061127-10:21] etch Release
> Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot CD
> i386 Binary-1 20061127-10:21] etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
> Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot CD
> i386 Binary-1 20061127-10:21] etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
> Get:1 http://debian.crosslink.net etch Release.gpg [189B]
> Get:2 http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release.gpg [189B]
> Hit http://debian.crosslink.net etch Release
> Hit http://debian.crosslink.net etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
> Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release
> Hit http://debian.crosslink.net etch/main Sources/DiffIndex
> Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages/DiffIndex
> Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
> Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources/DiffIndex
> Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Sources/DiffIndex
> Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages
> Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages
> Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources
> Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Sources
> Fetched 2B in 5s (0B/s)
> Reading package lists...
>
> <<Message End>>
>
> Is there any way to edit a config file (something like that) by
> subsequent snapshot CDs and web links/ download sites as that of
> Xubuntu/Ubuntu's Software Sources program???


I'm not sure what that is since I've never seen it, but I
think /etc/apt/sources.list is what you need.. If not post back with your
questions.
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Vieux 30/11/2006, 15h00   #3 (permalink)
Douglas Tutty
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On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 08:13:54PM -0800, aquamarine wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am a pure newbie on Linux/Debian coming from Windows world!
> I downloaded just 3 of the 21 CDs from
> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/we...s/i386/iso-cd/ website,
> booted the 1st CD and install testing Debian successfully.
>
> The main point is that I found no way to install my other 2 CDs. By
> the way, I cannot find: (1) Software Sources settings (2) Synaptic
> Package Manager to update my system.
>
>
> Another method I tried:
> open a terminal, and typed:
> (1) su -
> (2) apt-get update
>
> <<Message Start>>
> Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot CD
> i386 Binary-1 20061127-10:21] etch Release.gpg
> Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot CD
> i386 Binary-1 20061127-10:21] etch Release
> Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot CD
> i386 Binary-1 20061127-10:21] etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
> Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot CD
> i386 Binary-1 20061127-10:21] etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
> Get:1 http://debian.crosslink.net etch Release.gpg [189B]
> Get:2 http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release.gpg [189B]
> Hit http://debian.crosslink.net etch Release
> Hit http://debian.crosslink.net etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
> Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release
> Hit http://debian.crosslink.net etch/main Sources/DiffIndex
> Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages/DiffIndex
> Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
> Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources/DiffIndex
> Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Sources/DiffIndex
> Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages
> Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages
> Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources
> Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Sources
> Fetched 2B in 5s (0B/s)
> Reading package lists...
>
> <<Message End>>
>
> Is there any way to edit a config file (something like that) by
> subsequent snapshot CDs and web links/ download sites as that of
> Xubuntu/Ubuntu's Software Sources program???
>



Welcome to the club.

Quick rundown:
dpkg does the actual installation of individual packages
apt fetches the packages
various front ends keep track of package dependancies and may
keep track of which packages were only installed to
satisfy those dependancies.
aptitude
synaptic
apt-get

Personally, I use aptitude.

The sources of the packages are listed in /etc/apt/sources.list

You cannot add a cd directly to sources.list. Use apt-cdrom add
and it will read the package list off the cd. Do that for the
CDs you have.

Synaptic package manager is contained in a package. It may not
be on the first CD since it uses the X window system. Aptitude,
a text-based manager may be on it.

After you've used apt-cdrom to add the CDs you have, before you get too
far into deep water, you should read the debian-reference (apt-get
debian-reference). It will answer many of the questions you will ask
yourself as you learn about Debian.

Good luck.

Doug.


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Vieux 30/11/2006, 15h30   #4 (permalink)
Francis Healy
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aquamarine <gaiho.leung@gmail.com> wrote: Hi all,

I am a pure newbie on Linux/Debian coming from Windows world!
I downloaded just 3 of the 21 CDs from
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/we...s/i386/iso-cd/ website,
booted the 1st CD and install testing Debian successfully.

The main point is that I found no way to install my other 2 CDs. By
the way, I cannot find: (1) Software Sources settings (2) Synaptic
Package Manager to update my system.


Another method I tried:
open a terminal, and typed:
(1) su -
(2) apt-get update

<>
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot CD
i386 Binary-1 20061127-10:21] etch Release.gpg
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot CD
i386 Binary-1 20061127-10:21] etch Release
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot CD
i386 Binary-1 20061127-10:21] etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot CD
i386 Binary-1 20061127-10:21] etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Get:1 http://debian.crosslink.net etch Release.gpg [189B]
Get:2 http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release.gpg [189B]
Hit http://debian.crosslink.net etch Release
Hit http://debian.crosslink.net etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release
Hit http://debian.crosslink.net etch/main Sources/DiffIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources/DiffIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Sources/DiffIndex
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Sources
Fetched 2B in 5s (0B/s)
Reading package lists...

<>

Is there any way to edit a config file (something like that) by
subsequent snapshot CDs and web links/ download sites as that of
Xubuntu/Ubuntu's Software Sources program???

Please


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Does you system have an internet connection? It seems to be looking for package and update archives but not finding them. One of the great things about debian is that once you get your base system up and running, you can get any package you want from the repositories. I generallly use the netinstall CD, but If I have to install from cds (usually due to a balky net card), I add the archives to my apt sources list and comment out the entrys for the CDs.

Frank Healy

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Vieux 30/11/2006, 16h30   #5 (permalink)
richard@the-place.net
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> On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 08:13:54PM -0800, aquamarine wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am a pure newbie on Linux/Debian coming from Windows world!
>> I downloaded just 3 of the 21 CDs from
>> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/we...s/i386/iso-cd/ website,
>> booted the 1st CD and install testing Debian successfully.
>>
>> The main point is that I found no way to install my other 2 CDs. By
>> the way, I cannot find: (1) Software Sources settings (2) Synaptic
>> Package Manager to update my system.


You sound a bit lost. I assume you have a working base system with a
command line and perhaps no X-windows system (GUI)? I also do not know
which country you are in, but it looks as though you have some usable
sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list. You could try to edit this file,
which tells the package managers where to get files from, or you could try
to download more of the system from the sources already listed. I assume
in the following that you also have a fast internet connection. If not,
then ignore this reply.

to edit the sources.list:

I guess you have no experience of working from the command line or
using simple line editors. You may have already an editor called nano
which is easier for a newbie than vi. Try 'which nano' and if it says
'/bin/nano', then you do have it. (If you do not then use
'apt-get nano') Use a computer with a browser working and go to
http://www.debian.org/mirror/list. Choose the nearest mirror to you,
and note carefully the URL. For example, if you chose this one:

ftp.uni-koeln.de /debian/ /debian/ alpha amd64 i386 powerpc sparc

then the second column is the directory to add to the entry in
/etc/apt/sources.list for ftp download (the third, in this case the
same, is for http). So you would write an entry in the sources.list
file like this:

deb ftp://ftp.uni-koeln.de/debian/ etch main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.uni-koeln.de/debian/ etch main non-free contrib

That is two lines, one for binary packages and one for source packages.
You will see there are spaces dividing the lines into parts, in effect
columns. The first has 'deb' or 'deb-src'. The second has the URL,
beginning http:// or ftp://, and ending in the directory you added from
the entry in in the mirror list. the third is the release, in this case
'etch'. After that are the sections of the repository that will be
accessed, also space-separated.

When you have put in the source you want to use, you can insert a hash
(#) before all the lines you think are unneeded. Then save the file.
In nano that is ctl-o. You will see a list of commands at the bottom.
Exit the editor and issue the command 'apt-get update'. This
synchronises your computer's list with the repository/ies in your
sources.list. Then do 'apt-get install aptitude' as below...

to carry on with the sources already set up in your sources.list

You have already given the command 'apt-get update', but if it was not
today, do it again. Then 'apt-get install aptitude'. Then run
'aptitude'.

This is a slightly less intimidating front-end to the package management
system. '?' gives you a list of commands. search for '^kde$'. This
should find you a package called just 'kde'. Select it ('+') then install
it and everything that aptitude adds in with it ('g', and then again 'g').

After that, you should have a working GUI which looks reasonably familiar
to a windoze user. Then you can play around, use the internet to search
for answers, install more stuff, either with aptitude again or the gui
application synaptic, which probably comes with kde, but install it
separately if not. It will magically appear in the KDE menu system when
installed. After a few weeks, you may like to try different window
managers, and even uninstall kde, but it is far and away the easiest way
in coming from windows.

Oh yes, your other two CDs: use them as coasters. They will be out of
date soon enough.

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