Years ago my ISP suggested me to use procmail rules together with my IMAP mail boxes with them.
My .procmailrc is now 7,500 lines long.
Now they announced, they would stop that service.
But apparently they will also not provide server-side Sieve.

Is client-side Sieve (GNU mailutils) a serious option?
Does anybody use that?

Or should I redirect my own domain, that I only use for e-mail forwarding and also for http redirecting,
.... to a reasonable ISP,
that either is committed to allow procmail and/or server-side full-fledged Sieve?

I am a little desperate right now.

I appreciate your serious advice.

J.

Jochen Hayek writes:

> Or should I redirect my own domain, that I only use for e-mail forwarding and also for http redirecting,
> ... to a reasonable ISP,
> that either is committed to allow procmail and/or server-side full-fledged Sieve?

The number of ISPs that permit this is dwindling as time goes by.

> I am a little desperate right now.
>
> I appreciate your serious advice.

You've reached the point where you should seriously look into running your
own mail server and having complete and total control over your E-mail.



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>>>>> "S" == Sam <sam@email-scan.com> writes:

Jochen Hayek writes:

J> Or should I redirect my own domain, that I only use for e-mail
J> forwarding and also for http redirecting, ... to a reasonable
J> ISP, that either is committed to allow procmail and/or
J> server-side full-fledged Sieve?

S> The number of ISPs that permit this is dwindling as time goes by.

J> I am a little desperate right now.

J> I appreciate your serious advice.

S> You've reached the point where you should seriously look into
S> running your own mail server and having complete and total
S> control over your E-mail.

Alright ... -- I have already been running UWash IMAP at home at the other end of a 2M downstream / 512k upstream DSL line.

And that's alright for using Outlook as an IMAP client to that IMAP server,
if the mail doesn't display readable in emacs's "Gnus"
AND when I am at home.

But when I am not at home like Mondays to Fridays (working for a customer),
I hate the idea of making myself dependant on a bottleneck like my home DSL line,
I prefer professional staff to take care of the IMAP server I connect to *and* my incoming mail,
which gets presorted there.
(And there is no professional IT staff at home, when I am at work.
If the line is broken, it doesn't , that I could connect to my Linux at home, if the line wasn't broken ...--YKWIM.)

(I have procmail rules running at my ISP's IMAP server, and that is for pre-sorting,
and I have procmail rules running on my local box.
Certainly these procmail rules are maintained in a single source.)

So should I run my own mail server on a hosted Linux (or whatever) machine on a rack with an ISP (or only a virtual server)?

And just because the masses have not already chosen, that IMAP + server-side filtering is the only acceptable way,
which would make the market come up with real and nice offers in that area.
I think I am going to cry a little ...

It simply cannot be like that ... -- does it?

Sur 2006-05-18, Jochen Hayek skribis:
> [ snip ]
>
> And just because the masses have not already chosen, that IMAP
> + server-side filtering is the only acceptable way, which would
> make the market come up with real and nice offers in that area.
> I think I am going to cry a little ...
>
> It simply cannot be like that ... -- does it?


It takes a while for the market to work, but slowly it's
happening and the more people like you (and me) who demand this,
the more likely it will become available for everyone. I've just
been blogging about this kind of thing so, if you are interested,
check out my recent blog posts whose titles start with
"Server-Side".

2 IMAP providers that offer server-side Sieve are Tuffmail.com
and FastMail.FM. Let me know if you learn about others!

Good luck finding a good IMAP service provider,
Nancy

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