i found it in
microsft.public.isa.configuration
a tony guy posted it as a "fix", and phillip windell, said it was a bad
design etc and that he sent a message to micrsoft to state his opinion.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;305394

the only thing i did different is i didnt set up my smtp vs1 to point to the
internal interface of the isa server, i have no forwarders set upin the smtp
vs1.


"Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote in message
news:OEqJJc7NGHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> "news.microsoft.com" <mortonj@spammernb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:OfaPnO7NGHA.3732@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > if i tell nslookup to use the isp dns server... recursion works. if i
tell
> > dns to use a bublic ip as a forwarder,
>
> Well tell NSlookup to use PRECISELY the SAME DNS as
> you are trying to use in your DNS Forwarder setting.
>
> If that works, then try to tell YOUR DNS to get the same
> answer.
>
> Report PRECISELY which works and which doesn't.
>
> Do all of this from YOUR DNS server (not some other
> machine which would complicate the tests.)
>
> Make sure you do NOT have "Do not use recursion"
> checked in the ADVANCED tab of your DNS server.
> ("Disable recursion" on the forwarder tab should be
> ok, but if you get poor results play with that AND
> report the precise results for each setting.)
>
>
> > it doesnt goto my gateway (isa
> > server) i dont know where it goes if it even tries?
>
> Then you don't know that it "doesn't goto" there.
>
> You won't know that unless you use a network monitor.
>
> You might have disabled recursion (advanced tab.)
>
> > from the isa server i
> > dont see very much traffic coming from my dns server. i have mail
flowing
> > and recursion working, but i dont llike the way i did it... (mainly
> > because
> > this setup has been the same for several years with little or no issues)
i
> > put the isa server's internal ipaddress as the forwarder. dns is not
> > installed on my isa. it works though, but i dont like it. for whatever
> > reason dns stopped forwarding to my isp dns servers.
>
> Why did you put your ISA server address as forwarder if your
> ISA has no DNS?
>
> Set your forwarder to the DNS server you wish to use (ISP, etc.)
>
> It should be the SAME DNS server you can query directly from
> the NSLookup.
>
> Failing to forward to a DNS server should not offer a surprise
> when it fails to resolve.
>
>
>
> --
> Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
> Accelerated MCSE
> http://www.LearnQuick.Com
> [phone number on web site]
>
> >
> >
> > "Herb Martin" <news@LearnQuick.com> wrote in message
> > news:exyxk22NGHA.2124@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> "news.microsoft.com" <mortonj@spammernb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:uYmX4cwNGHA.812@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> > we had a conversation a few days ago about my dns servers, and we
came
> > to
> >> > the conclusion that it probably had something to do with my isa
server,
> > i
> >> > have spent sometime looking at that, and everything seems to be ok?
> >> >
> >> > is it possible that there is something wrong with the forwarders part
> >> > of
> >> > dns... i put a packet sniffer at my gateway machine, (isa server
2000),
> >> > and
> >> > i am not seeing much dns traffic from my dns server?
> >>
> >> You can quickly determine this by (working from the DNS server)
> >> using the Command prompt NSLookup to try the "forwarder"
> >> directly:
> >>
> >> Test things like this:
> >>
> >> nslookup www.google.com IP.Address.Of.Forwarder
> >>
> >> If your DNS server command prompt cannot resolve the names
> >> (like this) through the forwarder then you have firewall/ISA,
> >> problems with forwarder itself, or other routing problems.
> >>
> >> > can i uninstall/reinstall dns to see if this s?
> >>
> >> Sure but it's almost always a waste of time to flail around
re-installing
> >> stuff when you haven't even isolated the problem.
> >>
> >> And it is generally counter-productive since all of your other
> >> tests must be re-done and the chance you will introduce a new
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> Don't flail -- isolate and simplify the problem.
> >>
> >> > win2k3/isa2000/exch2k3
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Herb Martin, MCSE, MVP
> >> Accelerated MCSE
> >> http://www.LearnQuick.Com
> >> [phone number on web site]
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

In news:uZCj7s8NGHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
news.microsoft.com <mortonj@spammernb.sympatico.ca> stated, which I
commented on below:
> i found it in
> microsft.public.isa.configuration
> a tony guy posted it as a "fix", and phillip windell, said it was a
> bad design etc and that he sent a message to micrsoft to state his
> opinion.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;305394
>
> the only thing i did different is i didnt set up my smtp vs1 to point
> to the internal interface of the isa server, i have no forwarders set
> upin the smtp vs1.

Sorry I didn't see this post earlier, but glad you got a fix or workaround
for it with the Herb, Kevin and Phillip provided. I actually forget the
original post when we talked about the issues you're having, and it's
difficult for me to find it because your name comes up as
"news.microsoft.com", which is generic. But glad you got it working.


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