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Vieux 25/07/2006, 16h52   #1
jasteel@yahoo.com
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This is the error we get when a someone fills out a form on our
webserver and hits submit.

Windows 2000 server and NO exchange server. I have changed the dns but
still getting the error below AND the delivery errors.

http://www.aivilik.ca/slush/dns.jpg

I still am unable to get the forms to send emails.

Any would be great.

Thanx

Message delivery to the remote domain 'telusplanet.net' failed for the
following reason: Unable to bind to the destination server in DNS.

Message delivery to the remote domain 'telus.net' failed for the
following reason: Unable to bind to the destination server in DNS.

Message delivery to the remote domain 'reddeer.ca' failed for the
following reason: Unable to bind to the destination server in DNS.

JAS
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Vieux 25/07/2006, 19h40   #2
Jorge Silva
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Hi

- First you should know that these domains are responding to ping requests,
which isn't good.
- second after some tests I noitice that your mx record refering to
mx.svc.telus.net and I saw it's IPAddress changing to 2 different IP
(204.209.205.52,199.185.220.200) , are you hosting a public DNS Server?


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I hope that the information above s you

Good Luck
Jorge Silva
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Systems Administrator

<jasteel@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> This is the error we get when a someone fills out a form on our
> webserver and hits submit.
>
> Windows 2000 server and NO exchange server. I have changed the dns but
> still getting the error below AND the delivery errors.
>
> http://www.aivilik.ca/slush/dns.jpg
>
> I still am unable to get the forms to send emails.
>
> Any would be great.
>
> Thanx
>
> Message delivery to the remote domain 'telusplanet.net' failed for the
> following reason: Unable to bind to the destination server in DNS.
>
> Message delivery to the remote domain 'telus.net' failed for the
> following reason: Unable to bind to the destination server in DNS.
>
> Message delivery to the remote domain 'reddeer.ca' failed for the
> following reason: Unable to bind to the destination server in DNS.
>
> JAS



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Vieux 25/07/2006, 20h22   #3
jasteel@yahoo.com
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Interesting about the MX record as we are not running Exchange. I
shall call my isp change it.

Thanx

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:40:23 +0100, "Jorge Silva"
<jorgesilva_pt@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi
>
>- First you should know that these domains are responding to ping requests,
>which isn't good.
>- second after some tests I noitice that your mx record refering to
>mx.svc.telus.net and I saw it's IPAddress changing to 2 different IP
>(204.209.205.52,199.185.220.200) , are you hosting a public DNS Server?


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Vieux 25/07/2006, 20h29   #4
jasteel@bigfoot.com
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Howdy Jorge what tools were you using to test this?

Thanx

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:40:23 +0100, "Jorge Silva"
<jorgesilva_pt@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi
>
>- First you should know that these domains are responding to ping requests,
>which isn't good.
>- second after some tests I noitice that your mx record refering to
>mx.svc.telus.net and I saw it's IPAddress changing to 2 different IP
>(204.209.205.52,199.185.220.200) , are you hosting a public DNS Server?


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Vieux 25/07/2006, 20h59   #5
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nslookup


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I hope that the information above s you

Good Luck
Jorge Silva
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Systems Administrator

<jasteel@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> Howdy Jorge what tools were you using to test this?
>
> Thanx
>
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:40:23 +0100, "Jorge Silva"
> <jorgesilva_pt@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>- First you should know that these domains are responding to ping
>>requests,
>>which isn't good.
>>- second after some tests I noitice that your mx record refering to
>>mx.svc.telus.net and I saw it's IPAddress changing to 2 different IP
>>(204.209.205.52,199.185.220.200) , are you hosting a public DNS Server?

>



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Vieux 26/07/2006, 05h45   #6
Ace Fekay [MVP]
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In news:8efcc2tbg4tjnf2ob57cg85lkiv8a1560h@4ax.com,
jasteel@yahoo.com <jasteel@yahoo.com> stated, which I commented on below:
> This is the error we get when a someone fills out a form on our
> webserver and hits submit.
>
> Windows 2000 server and NO exchange server. I have changed the dns but
> still getting the error below AND the delivery errors.
>
> http://www.aivilik.ca/slush/dns.jpg
>
> I still am unable to get the forms to send emails.
>
> Any would be great.
>
> Thanx
>
> Message delivery to the remote domain 'telusplanet.net' failed for the
> following reason: Unable to bind to the destination server in DNS.
>
> Message delivery to the remote domain 'telus.net' failed for the
> following reason: Unable to bind to the destination server in DNS.
>
> Message delivery to the remote domain 'reddeer.ca' failed for the
> following reason: Unable to bind to the destination server in DNS.
>
> JAS


Event ID 708, as you provided in the link, says your DNS server has no
zones. When you open the DNS console, are there any zones configured under
FOrward Lookup Zones container?

What other errors are in the Event viewer (in any of the logs)?

And yes, that is interesting with your MX record that Jorge pointed out.

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Vieux 26/07/2006, 20h39   #7
jasteel@bigfoot.com
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Thanx for the Message, there are 2 zones configured in our Forward dns
BUT none in the reverse?

Could this be a problem?

Strange thing about the MX records is that we dont use any of the
isp's listed as our isp?


Thanx

JAS

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 00:45:37 -0400, "Ace Fekay [MVP]"
<PleaseAskMe@SomeDomain.com> wrote:

>In news:8efcc2tbg4tjnf2ob57cg85lkiv8a1560h@4ax.com,
>jasteel@yahoo.com <jasteel@yahoo.com> stated, which I commented on below:
>> This is the error we get when a someone fills out a form on our
>> webserver and hits submit.
>>
>> Windows 2000 server and NO exchange server. I have changed the dns but
>> still getting the error below AND the delivery errors.
>>
>> http://www.aivilik.ca/slush/dns.jpg
>>
>> I still am unable to get the forms to send emails.
>>
>> Any would be great.
>>
>> Thanx
>>
>> Message delivery to the remote domain 'telusplanet.net' failed for the
>> following reason: Unable to bind to the destination server in DNS.
>>
>> Message delivery to the remote domain 'telus.net' failed for the
>> following reason: Unable to bind to the destination server in DNS.
>>
>> Message delivery to the remote domain 'reddeer.ca' failed for the
>> following reason: Unable to bind to the destination server in DNS.
>>
>> JAS

>
>Event ID 708, as you provided in the link, says your DNS server has no
>zones. When you open the DNS console, are there any zones configured under
>FOrward Lookup Zones container?
>
>What other errors are in the Event viewer (in any of the logs)?
>
>And yes, that is interesting with your MX record that Jorge pointed out.


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Vieux 27/07/2006, 04h06   #8
Ace Fekay [MVP]
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In news:75hfc2hsacl52grqii10sumrclim9ntak7@4ax.com,
jasteel@bigfoot.com <jasteel@bigfoot.com> stated, which I commented on
below:
> Thanx for the Message, there are 2 zones configured in our Forward dns
> BUT none in the reverse?
>
> Could this be a problem?
>
> Strange thing about the MX records is that we dont use any of the
> isp's listed as our isp?
>
>
> Thanx
>
> JAS


Jaz,

Two zones configured and you're getting that error? Interesting. Doesn't
make sense. Not having a reverse zone will not cause this, but is ful
for Active Directory 2003 for certain errors.

What DNS server is specified in IP properties of the machine????

As far as the original question, you are talking about sending email thru a
website using a webform. I know the question strayed a bit, but I would like
to try to answer, but you did NOT provide enough information to go on.

So far I can assume you are using IIS5 (win2000 as you stated), and you have
SMTP installed under IIS.

1. What DNS server(s) is the Win2000 server using in it's IP properties?
2. Unless you specified a specific DNS server to use in SMTP properties in
IIS?
3. For the errors you are geting for the 'not able to bind" error to the
domains you mentioned, 'reddeer.ca', 'telus.net', and 'telusplanet.net'. By
the way, are they the only ones you cannot send to?

So far what I believe, is that the incorrect DNS addresses are being used in
IP properties or in SMTP. Read these links to see what I'm talking about. It
mentions Exchange, but the underlying issue is SMTP service (which Exchange
and you are relying on to work). so ignore the Exchange part (or anything
Exchange related) and concentrate on the SMTP part about specifying DNS
addresses.

XIMS: Cannot Send Mail After Re-Installing the IIS SMTP ServiceThe error
message is unable to bind to the destination server in dns. Your mail may
also seem to disappear. If you check the Exchsrvr\Mailroot\Vsi 1\Badmail ...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290290

Some of your SMTP e-mail messages may remain in your outgoing mail
....Describes an issue where e-mail messages may remain in your outgoing SMTP
queues with a status of 'Unable to bind to the destination server in DNS.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=884421

But it's difficult to understand why you are getting those Event ID 708 when
you send an email. How did you verify that this Event ID is tied to not
being able to send email? Did you also set SMTP logging? If not, set that
and use W3C Extended Log File format and select on everything (there are
specific ones that I would like to see but can't think of them off hand at
the moment). Try to send an email and notice the time, then look for that
timestamp in the logs and see what happens.

Ace


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Vieux 27/07/2006, 10h53   #9
Jorge Silva
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let's go back to the basics:

where do you have your DNS server, is it on the same server as the IIS?
is the IIS server NIC DNS properties pointing to your local DNS server or to
your ISP DNS?

Can you give more especific details about your configuration, DNS, IPAddress
settings,etc.

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I hope that the information above s you

Good Luck
Jorge Silva
MCSA
Systems Administrator

<jasteel@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:75hfc2hsacl52grqii10sumrclim9ntak7@4ax.com...
> Thanx for the Message, there are 2 zones configured in our Forward dns
> BUT none in the reverse?
>
> Could this be a problem?
>
> Strange thing about the MX records is that we dont use any of the
> isp's listed as our isp?
>
>
> Thanx
>
> JAS
>
> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 00:45:37 -0400, "Ace Fekay [MVP]"
> <PleaseAskMe@SomeDomain.com> wrote:
>
>>In news:8efcc2tbg4tjnf2ob57cg85lkiv8a1560h@4ax.com,
>>jasteel@yahoo.com <jasteel@yahoo.com> stated, which I commented on below:
>>> This is the error we get when a someone fills out a form on our
>>> webserver and hits submit.
>>>
>>> Windows 2000 server and NO exchange server. I have changed the dns but
>>> still getting the error below AND the delivery errors.
>>>
>>> http://www.aivilik.ca/slush/dns.jpg
>>>
>>> I still am unable to get the forms to send emails.
>>>
>>> Any would be great.
>>>
>>> Thanx
>>>
>>> Message delivery to the remote domain 'telusplanet.net' failed for the
>>> following reason: Unable to bind to the destination server in DNS.
>>>
>>> Message delivery to the remote domain 'telus.net' failed for the
>>> following reason: Unable to bind to the destination server in DNS.
>>>
>>> Message delivery to the remote domain 'reddeer.ca' failed for the
>>> following reason: Unable to bind to the destination server in DNS.
>>>
>>> JAS

>>
>>Event ID 708, as you provided in the link, says your DNS server has no
>>zones. When you open the DNS console, are there any zones configured under
>>FOrward Lookup Zones container?
>>
>>What other errors are in the Event viewer (in any of the logs)?
>>
>>And yes, that is interesting with your MX record that Jorge pointed out.

>



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Vieux 27/07/2006, 22h05   #10
jasteel@bigfoot.com
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It turned out that our DNS was pointed to our ISP and not to our
server. Once this was done it worked fine.

Thanx again HUGE for all your .

JAS

On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:53:07 +0100, "Jorge Silva"
<jorgesilva_pt@hotmail.com> wrote:

>let's go back to the basics:
>
>where do you have your DNS server, is it on the same server as the IIS?
>is the IIS server NIC DNS properties pointing to your local DNS server or to
>your ISP DNS?
>
>Can you give more especific details about your configuration, DNS, IPAddress
>settings,etc.


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