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Vieux 17/01/2006, 13h03   #1 (permalink)
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I have apache2 installed as a service and run under a local account
that also rights to the Novell the Mapped drives. (logged in as Novell
user with same name and password)
Aliases work fine as long as the drive is on the Win2003 box, but not
if pointed at a Novell drive.

Under Windows 2000 Server this worked fine, but with Windows 2003
Server the Apache daemon fails to start when novell drives are included
in the httpd.conf file.

This is Apache 2.0.55
Win2003 Server SP1
Novel Client 4.91


Anyone any have any bright ideas?

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Vieux 17/01/2006, 19h47   #2 (permalink)
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On 17 Jan 2006 05:03:09 -0800, "hobgoblin" <net@hhc.ac.uk>
wrote:

>I have apache2 installed as a service and run under a local account
>that also rights to the Novell the Mapped drives. (logged in as Novell
>user with same name and password)
>Aliases work fine as long as the drive is on the Win2003 box, but not
>if pointed at a Novell drive.
>
>Under Windows 2000 Server this worked fine, but with Windows 2003
>Server the Apache daemon fails to start when novell drives are included
>in the httpd.conf file.
>
>This is Apache 2.0.55
>Win2003 Server SP1
>Novel Client 4.91
>
>Anyone any have any bright ideas?


Sure.
What's in your {apache2installpath}\logs\error.log?
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( Kees
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c[_] When you're arguing with a fool, make sure he isn't doing the same thing. (#72)
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Vieux 18/01/2006, 12h41   #3 (permalink)
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Kees Nuyt wrote:
> On 17 Jan 2006 05:03:09 -0800, "hobgoblin" <net@hhc.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >I have apache2 installed as a service and run under a local account
> >that also rights to the Novell the Mapped drives. (logged in as Novell
> >user with same name and password)
> >Aliases work fine as long as the drive is on the Win2003 box, but not
> >if pointed at a Novell drive.
> >
> >Under Windows 2000 Server this worked fine, but with Windows 2003
> >Server the Apache daemon fails to start when novell drives are included
> >in the httpd.conf file.
> >
> >This is Apache 2.0.55
> >Win2003 Server SP1
> >Novel Client 4.91
> >
> >Anyone any have any bright ideas?

>
> Sure.
> What's in your {apache2installpath}\logs\error.log?
> --
> ( Kees
> )
> c[_] When you're arguing with a fool, make sure he isn't doing the same thing. (#72)


Nothing gets logged because the daemon never starts.
Apache -t fails with 'drive does not exist' , although it IS mapped
and the user can access it.

Seems as thought the user loses rights to Novell drives when it is the
Apache Daemon.

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Vieux 18/01/2006, 19h39   #4 (permalink)
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On 18 Jan 2006 04:41:11 -0800, "hobgoblin" <net@hhc.ac.uk>
wrote:

>
>Kees Nuyt wrote:
>>
>> On 17 Jan 2006 05:03:09 -0800, "hobgoblin" <net@hhc.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I have apache2 installed as a service and run under a local account
>> >that also rights to the Novell the Mapped drives. (logged in as Novell
>> >user with same name and password)
>> >Aliases work fine as long as the drive is on the Win2003 box, but not
>> >if pointed at a Novell drive.
>> >
>> >Under Windows 2000 Server this worked fine, but with Windows 2003
>> >Server the Apache daemon fails to start when novell drives are included
>> >in the httpd.conf file.
>> >
>> >This is Apache 2.0.55
>> >Win2003 Server SP1
>> >Novel Client 4.91
>> >
>> >Anyone any have any bright ideas?

>>
>> Sure.
>> What's in your {apache2installpath}\logs\error.log?
>> --
>> ( Kees

>
>Nothing gets logged because the daemon never starts.
>Apache -t fails with 'drive does not exist' , although it IS mapped
>and the user can access it.
>
>Seems as thought the user loses rights to Novell drives when it is the
>Apache Daemon.


I see. Ok, perhaps the Novell login from the interactive Windows
shell login isn't valid from the GUI-less service windows login
(I assume it is another login instance, with another token and
it's own context).
Or the drive letter assignments (redirections) are local to the
windows login session. In which case using UNC paths instead of
drive letters might work.
Google for >UNC path drive assignment novell apache<
returned
http://www.daniweb.com/techtalkforums/thread31105.html
as third hit.

If UNCs don't work, you could try to experimenting with Apache2
starting as a console application and develop a solution from
there, something like: install a utility which allows command
scripts to run as a service. That script would contain a Novell
login, followed by Apache-as-console. Not nice, but it might
work.

It's all speculation, but I still hope this s.
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Vieux 19/01/2006, 11h15   #5 (permalink)
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Hi!
Many thanks for your assistance on this, and the pointer to the other
article, which clarified the issue for me.

The practical solution is to start the service from a batch file after
the login sequence has completed!

NET START (service_name)
exit

Run from the Startup Folder and it seems to work fine.

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Vieux 19/01/2006, 20h13   #6 (permalink)
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On 19 Jan 2006 03:15:36 -0800, "hobgoblin" <net@hhc.ac.uk>
wrote:

>Hi!
>Many thanks for your assistance on this, and the pointer to the other
>article, which clarified the issue for me.


YW

>The practical solution is to start the service from a batch file after
>the login sequence has completed!
>
>NET START (service_name)
>exit
>
>Run from the Startup Folder and it seems to work fine.


Ok, great, congratulations!
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Vieux 19/01/2006, 20h53   #7 (permalink)
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Kees Nuyt wrote:

> On 19 Jan 2006 03:15:36 -0800, "hobgoblin" <net@hhc.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >Hi!
> >Many thanks for your assistance on this, and the pointer to the other
> >article, which clarified the issue for me.

>
> YW
>
> >The practical solution is to start the service from a batch file after
> >the login sequence has completed!
> >
> >NET START (service_name)
> >exit
> >
> >Run from the Startup Folder and it seems to work fine.

>
> Ok, great, congratulations!


Small fly in the ointment!

The above does work with Win2000 Server, but not reliably with Win2003
Server.
However;
Full UNC paths in Novell Format with \s switched to / as is normal for
Apache conf seems to work fine.
Makes for rather long strings to enter :
//server/.tree/volume/dir/dir/etc !

Once again, thanks for the assistance.

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