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Vieux 02/03/2008, 11h22   #1
1001 Webs
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

"Spamming is the abuse of electronic messaging systems to
indiscriminately send unsolicited bulk messages. While the most widely
recognized form of spam is e-mail spam, the term is applied to similar
abuses in other media: instant messaging spam, Usenet newsgroup spam,
Web search engine spam, spam in blogs, wiki spam, mobile phone
messaging spam, Internet forum spam and junk fax transmissions.

Spamming is economically viable because advertisers have no
operating costs beyond the management of their mailing lists, and it
is difficult to hold senders accountable for their mass mailings.
Because the barrier to entry is so low, spammers are numerous, and the
volume of unsolicited mail has become very high. The costs, such as
lost productivity and fraud, are borne by the public and by Internet
service providers, which have been forced to add extra capacity to
cope with the deluge. Spamming is widely reviled, and has been the
subject of legislation in many jurisdictions."

Spam affects about everybody that uses the Internet in one form or
another. And in spite of what Bill Gates forecasted in 2004, when he
said that "spam will soon be a thing of the past", it is getting worse
by the day. While the European Union's Internal Market Commission
estimated in 2001 that "junk e-mail" cost Internet users EURO 10 billion
per year worldwide, the California legislature found that spam cost
United States organizations alone more than $13 billion in 2007,
including lost productivity and the additional equipment, software,
and manpower needed to combat the problem.

Where does all that Spam come from? Experts from SophosLabs (a
developer and vendor of security software and hardware) have analyzed
spam messages caught by companies involved in the Sophos global spam
monitoring network and came out with a list of top 12 countries that
spread spam around the globe:

* USA - 28.4%;
* South Korea - 5.2%;
* China (including Hong Kong) - 4.9%;
* Russia - 4.4%;
* Brazil - 3.7%;
* France - 3.6%;
* Germany - 3.4%;
* Turkey - 3.%;
* Poland - 2.7%;
* Great Britain - 2.4%;
* Romania - 2.3%;
* Mexico - 1.9%;
* Other countries - 33.9%


There are many types of electronic spam, including E-mail spam
(unsolicited e-mail), Mobile phone spam (unsolicited text messages,
Messaging spam ("SPIM"), use of instant messenger services for
advertisement or even extortion, Spam in blogs ("BLAM"), posting
random comments or promoting commercial services to blogs, wikis,
guestbooks, Forum spam (posting advertisements or useless posts on a
forum, Spamdexing, manipulating a search engine to create the illusion
of popularity for webpages, Newsgroup spam, advertisement and forgery
on newsgroups, etc.

For the purpose of this post we shall focus on Newsgroups spam, the
type of spam where the targets are Usenet newsgroups.
Usenet convention defines spamming as excessive multiple posting, that
is, the repeated posting of a message (or substantially similar
messages). During the early 1990s there was substantial controversy
among Usenet system administrators (news admins) over the use of
cancel messages to control spam. A cancel message is a directive to
news servers to delete a posting, causing it to be inaccessible to
those who might read it.
Some regarded this as a bad precedent, leaning towards censorship,
while others considered it a proper use of the available tools to
control the growing spam problem.
A culture of neutrality towards content precluded defining spam on the
basis of advertisement or commercial solicitations. The word "spam"
was usually taken to mean excessive multiple posting (EMP), and other
neologisms were coined for other abuses -- such as "velveeta" (from the
processed cheese product) for excessive cross-posting.
A subset of spam was deemed cancellable spam, for which it is
considered justified to issue third-party cancel messages.

The Breidbart Index (BI), developed by Seth Breidbart, provides a
measure of severity of newsgroup spam by calculating the breadth of
any multi-posting, cross-posting, or combination of the two. BI is
defined as the sum of the square roots of how many newsgroups each
article was posted to. If that number approaches 20, then the posts
will probably be cancelled by somebody.


The use of the BI and spam-detection software has led to Usenet being
policed by anti-spam volunteers, who purge newsgroups of spam by
sending cancels and filtering it out on the way into servers.

A related form of Newsgroups spam is forum spam. It usually consists
of links, with the dual goals of increasing search engine visibility
in highly competitive areas such as sexual invigoration, weight loss,
pharmaceuticals, gambling, pornography, real estate or loans, and
generating more traffic for these commercial websites.
Spam posts may contain anything from a single link, to dozens of
links. Text content is minimal, usually innocuous and unrelated to the
forum's topic. Full banner advertisements have also been reported.
Alternatively, the spam links are posted in the user's signature,where
is more likely to be approved by forum administrators and moderators.
Spam can also be described as posts that have no relevance to the
threads topic, or have no purpose in general (e.i, a user typing
"CABBAGES!" or other such useless posts in an important news thread).

When Google bought the Usenet archives in 2001, it provided a web
interface to text groups (thus turning them into some kind of web
forums) through Google Groups, from which more than 800 million
messages dating back to 1981 can be accessed.
There are some especially memorable articles and threads in these
archives, such as Tim Berners-Lee's announcement of what became the
World Wide Web:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...ernvax.cern.ch
or Linus Torvalds' post about his "pet project":
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...va.Helsinki.FI
You can view a pick of the most relevant posts here:
http://www.google.com/googlegroups/a...nounce_20.html

But Google Groups are responsible for the higher proportion of the
spam that floods the Usenet nowadays. Google Groups isn't the only
source, but is the one that makes it easier for spammers to carry out
their irritating activities.
It's so easy to spam Usenet through Google Groups that there are some
infamous spammers who have been doing so for years. Perhaps the best
known of all is the MI-5 Persecution spammer who gets his way across
just about any other newsgroup with rambling postings that often
appear as clusters of 20 or more messages all related to Mike Corley's
perceived persecution of himself by MI5, the British intelligence
agency. This UK-based spammer readily admits that he suffers from
mental illness in several of his postings. He annoys the rest of users
in such an exasperating way, that some of them have even offered
themselves to the MI-5 to personally finish off the job.

The solution, IMHO, is to implement the Breidbart Index in Google
Groups. It would be an easy task for a company that excels at
implementing all kinds of algorithms in their search engine, that I
just can't understand what are they waiting for.

Source:
http://magikomputer.blogspot.com/200...on-usenet.html

More Info:
(OT) Why accessing usenet through Google Groups sucks
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.c...e6c3c7ead7fea6
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Vieux 02/03/2008, 13h00   #2
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PerfectReign wrote:
> 1001 Webs turned on the Etch-A-Sketch and wrote:
>
>> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
>>
>> "Spamming is the abuse of electronic messaging systems to
>> indiscriminately send unsolicited bulk messages. While the most widely
>> recognized form of spam is e-mail spam, the term is applied to similar
>> abuses in other media: instant messaging spam, Usenet newsgroup spam,
>> Web search engine spam, spam in blogs, wiki spam, mobile phone
>> messaging spam, Internet forum spam and junk fax transmissions.

> <snip>
>
> Well, thank you very much for that insight...
>
>> More Info:
>> (OT) Why accessing usenet through Google Groups sucks

>
> Hmmm.... *checks headers*
>
>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.36.135.244

>
> Hey, can I get some tapas? Yo quiero una tortilla.
>
> Dos cervesas por favor!
>
>
>> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1204456977 1454 127.0.0.1 (2 Mar 2008 11:22:57

> GMT)
>> User-Agent: G2/1.0
>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12)

> Gecko/20080207 Ubuntu/7.10 (gutsy) Firefox/2.0.0.12,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>
> your point being?
>
>
> At least you're using a real OS and not one of those toy operating systems
> like wintendo or the cult of mac.
>
>


Ignore him. He's a known troll and spammer. He makes up lies and
slanders anyone who disagrees with him or spreads the truth about him -
like he'll call me a criminal with some trumped up crap.

Most of the regulars in a.w.w. have plonked him, and the only time we
see him is when someone responds.

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
==================

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Vieux 02/03/2008, 13h29   #3
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1001 Webs turned on the Etch-A-Sketch and wrote:

> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
>
> "Spamming is the abuse of electronic messaging systems to
> indiscriminately send unsolicited bulk messages. While the most widely
> recognized form of spam is e-mail spam, the term is applied to similar
> abuses in other media: instant messaging spam, Usenet newsgroup spam,
> Web search engine spam, spam in blogs, wiki spam, mobile phone
> messaging spam, Internet forum spam and junk fax transmissions.

<snip>

Well, thank you very much for that insight...

>
> More Info:
> (OT) Why accessing usenet through Google Groups sucks


Hmmm.... *checks headers*

> NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.36.135.244


Hey, can I get some tapas? Yo quiero una tortilla.

Dos cervesas por favor!


> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1204456977 1454 127.0.0.1 (2 Mar 2008 11:22:57

GMT)
> User-Agent: G2/1.0
> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12)

Gecko/20080207 Ubuntu/7.10 (gutsy) Firefox/2.0.0.12,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)

your point being?


At least you're using a real OS and not one of those toy operating systems
like wintendo or the cult of mac.


--
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Vieux 02/03/2008, 13h42   #4
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Jerry Stuckle turned on the Etch-A-Sketch and wrote:

> PerfectReign wrote:
>>> User-Agent: G2/1.0
>>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12)

>> Gecko/20080207 Ubuntu/7.10 (gutsy)
>> Firefox/2.0.0.12,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>>
>> your point being?
>>
>>
>> At least you're using a real OS and not one of those toy operating
>> systems like wintendo or the cult of mac.
>>
>>

>
> Ignore him. He's a known troll and spammer. He makes up lies and
> slanders anyone who disagrees with him or spreads the truth about him -
> like he'll call me a criminal with some trumped up crap.
>
> Most of the regulars in a.w.w. have plonked him, and the only time we
> see him is when someone responds.


hence the xpost

got it



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Vieux 02/03/2008, 18h26   #5
1001 Webs
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On Mar 2, 2:29 pm, PerfectReign <theperfectre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 1001 Webs turned on the Etch-A-Sketch and wrote:
>
> > From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

>
> > "Spamming is the abuse of electronic messaging systems to
> > indiscriminately send unsolicited bulk messages. While the most widely
> > recognized form of spam is e-mail spam, the term is applied to similar
> > abuses in other media: instant messaging spam, Usenet newsgroup spam,
> > Web search engine spam, spam in blogs, wiki spam, mobile phone
> > messaging spam, Internet forum spam and junk fax transmissions.

>
> <snip>
>
> Well, thank you very much for that insight...

You're most welcome.

> > More Info:
> > (OT) Why accessing usenet through Google Groups sucks

>
> Hmmm.... *checks headers*
>
> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.36.135.244

>
> Hey, can I get some tapas? Yo quiero una tortilla.
>
> Dos cervesas por favor!
>
> > X-Trace: posting.google.com 1204456977 1454 127.0.0.1 (2 Mar 2008 11:22:57

> GMT)
> > User-Agent: G2/1.0
> > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12)

>
> Gecko/20080207 Ubuntu/7.10 (gutsy) Firefox/2.0.0.12,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>
> your point being?

The point being illustrated is how many people tries to tell other
posters what SPAM is but they actually don't have the slightest idea
of what they're talking about...

> At least you're using a real OS and not one of those toy operating systems
> like wintendo or the cult of mac.


I also use the Amiga, the best computing platform ever ...
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Vieux 02/03/2008, 18h27   #6
1001 Webs
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On Mar 2, 2:42 pm, PerfectReign <theperfectre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle turned on the Etch-A-Sketch and wrote:
>
>
>
> > PerfectReign wrote:
> >>> User-Agent: G2/1.0
> >>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12)
> >> Gecko/20080207 Ubuntu/7.10 (gutsy)
> >> Firefox/2.0.0.12,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)

>
> >> your point being?

>
> >> At least you're using a real OS and not one of those toy operating
> >> systems like wintendo or the cult of mac.

>
> > Ignore him. He's a known troll and spammer. He makes up lies and
> > slanders anyone who disagrees with him or spreads the truth about him -
> > like he'll call me a criminal with some trumped up crap.

>
> > Most of the regulars in a.w.w. have plonked him, and the only time we
> > see him is when someone responds.

>
> hence the xpost
>
> got it
>
> --www.perfectreign.com||www.filesite.org
>
> powered by the lizard:www.opensuse.org


Please, don't feed the spammer.
You can report them for spamming these groups as we do all the time,
because Spam can also be described as posts that have no relevance to
the threads topic, or have no purpose in general (e.i, a user typing
"JDS Computer Training Corp. !" or other such useless posts in an
important news thread).

Also report him as the scammer he is if he attempts to rip you off $US
6.000 as he recently did from a poster who was merely asking for some
advice.
For more info about his criminal activities, please see here:

http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...le&qt_s=Search
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Vieux 02/03/2008, 18h37   #7
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
> Ignore him. He's a known troll and spammer. He makes up lies and
> slanders anyone who disagrees with him or spreads the truth about him -
> like he'll call me a criminal with some trumped up crap.
>
> Most of the regulars in a.w.w. have plonked him, and the only time we
> see him is when someone responds.
>


All true but that was an interesting article that I would not have
seen. I especially like the portion about the MI5 ass:

"He annoys the rest of users in such an exasperating way, that some of
them have even offered themselves to the MI-5 to personally finish off
the job."

--
"Yah know I hate it when forces gather in ma' fringe..." - Sheogorath

"Contacting shutterfly is an exercise in stupidity
as they can't seem to grasp the fact it's NOT MY BLOODY
ACCOUNT and some wanker, one crack pipe short of a holiday,
has signed me up in a system that has no closed loop
confirmation yet has credit card information for billing." - Rev.
Beergoggles
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Vieux 02/03/2008, 18h53   #8
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1001 Webs wrote:
>
> Please, don't feed the spammer.
> You can report them for spamming these groups as we do all the time,
> because Spam can also be described as posts that have no relevance to
> the threads topic, or have no purpose in general (e.i, a user typing
> "JDS Computer Training Corp. !" or other such useless posts in an
> important news thread).


Going out of your way to justify your previous ads by trying to make
what Jerry posts look like ads is in poor form.

>
> Also report him as the scammer he is if he attempts to rip you off $US
> 6.000 as he recently did from a poster who was merely asking for some
> advice.
> For more info about his criminal activities, please see here:
>


<BS snipped>

What are you trying to be Richard Scoville now? You can not use an
archive post of your own fantasy BS as proof of your current fantasy BS.
You pointed out a member page on the ICCA site as a phish page, is
that because you are too stupid to know the difference between an
organization and it's individual members, or because you feel like you
can get away with blatantly lying libel because you're in some third
world country? It's like saying that eBay is an illegal phishing site
because one member is a thief. And doing so when you have zero proof
that the member in question has done anything wrong.

Is any of this falling into place? I just know you're sitting there
denying everything and saying to yourself, probably out loud how I'm a
total idiot and couldn't see through a clean window, but if that were
true, why is it you are the one being called a spammer, scammer and fool
by large numbers of people, and you are pretty much the only one calling
Jerry a thief? I'm sure there are people who don't particularly like
him, maybe think he's an asshole, but no one is running the BS you are
as a retaliation to being called a spammer when that is what you
blatantly did, and you did it in exactly the way that article you posted
talked about.

--
"Yah know I hate it when forces gather in ma' fringe..." - Sheogorath

"Contacting shutterfly is an exercise in stupidity
as they can't seem to grasp the fact it's NOT MY BLOODY
ACCOUNT and some wanker, one crack pipe short of a holiday,
has signed me up in a system that has no closed loop
confirmation yet has credit card information for billing." - Rev.
Beergoggles
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Vieux 02/03/2008, 19h35   #9
John Bokma
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PerfectReign <theperfectreign@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Gecko/20080207 Ubuntu/7.10 (gutsy)


> At least you're using a real OS and not one of those toy operating
> systems like wintendo or the cult of mac.


You made me LOL (I always LOL when I see an ignorant fanboi)

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Vieux 02/03/2008, 21h09   #10
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1001 Webs wrote:
> On Mar 2, 2:42 pm, PerfectReign <theperfectre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle turned on the Etch-A-Sketch and wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> PerfectReign wrote:
>>>>> User-Agent: G2/1.0
>>>>> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12)
>>>> Gecko/20080207 Ubuntu/7.10 (gutsy)
>>>> Firefox/2.0.0.12,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>>>> your point being?
>>>> At least you're using a real OS and not one of those toy operating
>>>> systems like wintendo or the cult of mac.
>>> Ignore him. He's a known troll and spammer. He makes up lies and
>>> slanders anyone who disagrees with him or spreads the truth about him -
>>> like he'll call me a criminal with some trumped up crap.
>>> Most of the regulars in a.w.w. have plonked him, and the only time we
>>> see him is when someone responds.

>> hence the xpost
>>
>> got it
>>
>> --www.perfectreign.com||www.filesite.org
>>
>> powered by the lizard:www.opensuse.org

>
> Please, don't feed the spammer.
> You can report them for spamming these groups as we do all the time,
> because Spam can also be described as posts that have no relevance to
> the threads topic, or have no purpose in general (e.i, a user typing
> "JDS Computer Training Corp. !" or other such useless posts in an
> important news thread).
>
> Also report him as the scammer he is if he attempts to rip you off $US
> 6.000 as he recently did from a poster who was merely asking for some
> advice.
> For more info about his criminal activities, please see here:
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...le&qt_s=Search


well, i googled "jerry stuckle" (omitting the scam alert), and found
that he is subject to many attacks on various grounds, allegations
ranging from "dangerous offender", to "company bankruptcy".
it appears that there is either one person posing as several, or many
persons operating together, chasing this person around.
Although i choose to keep an open mind- some of these allegations *may*
be true, so i have not rendered a judgement as yet.

as to the spam post- how is a post about a possible way to deal with
spam, not relevant to newsgroups?
If his post is spam, then it is relevant in that it advises us how spam
can be removed.
If it is NOT spam, it is still relevant- there is yet plenty of spam in
newsgroups and he sugests a way in which it might be rid.
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Vieux 02/03/2008, 22h24   #11
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John Bokma turned on the Etch-A-Sketch and wrote:

> PerfectReign <theperfectreign@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Gecko/20080207 Ubuntu/7.10 (gutsy)

>
>> At least you're using a real OS and not one of those toy operating
>> systems like wintendo or the cult of mac.

>
> You made me LOL (I always LOL when I see an ignorant fanboi)
>


I'm ignorant but not a fanboi.

I use Wintendo, too.

Look...

...Wintendo XP on VMWare as a guest inside opensuse with an rdc into vista
and a vnc into another opensuse server.

http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/20..._1680x1050.jpg

Ahh, government work...


....though if you're stuck using wintendo, then xnews is a good choice.

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Vieux 02/03/2008, 22h53   #12
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WindsorFox wrote:

> 1001 Webs wrote:
> >
> > Please, don't feed the spammer.
> > You can report them for spamming these groups as we do all the time,
> > because Spam can also be described as posts that have no relevance
> > to the threads topic, or have no purpose in general (e.i, a user
> > typing "JDS Computer Training Corp. !" or other such useless posts
> > in an important news thread).

>
> Going out of your way to justify your previous ads by trying to
> make what Jerry posts look like ads is in poor form.
>

Why? Jerry wants to behave like a wanker, people are going to treat him
like a wanker.
> >
> > Also report him as the scammer he is if he attempts to rip you off
> > $US 6.000 as he recently did from a poster who was merely asking
> > for some advice.
> > For more info about his criminal activities, please see here:
> >

>
> <BS snipped>
>
> What are you trying to be Richard Scoville now? You can not use an
> archive post of your own fantasy BS as proof of your current fantasy
> BS. You pointed out a member page on the ICCA site as a phish
> page, is that because you are too stupid to know the difference
> between an organization and it's individual members, or because you
> feel like you can get away with blatantly lying libel because you're
> in some third world country? It's like saying that eBay is an illegal
> phishing site because one member is a thief. And doing so when you
> have zero proof that the member in question has done anything wrong.
>

Funny, I dont remember you castigating Stuckle for doing just exactly
that when he was calling me. Still, hey ho, I'm sure that hypocrisy is
somehow 'right' from your perspective.

> Is any of this falling into place? I just know you're sitting there
> denying everything and saying to yourself, probably out loud how I'm
> a total idiot and couldn't see through a clean window, but if that
> were true, why is it you are the one being called a spammer, scammer
> and fool by large numbers of people, and you are pretty much the only
> one calling Jerry a thief?


Hmmmm, possibly because Jerry never ever tires of spouting his
libellous bollocks on this group and the regs condone him, possibly?
I've no idea whether Stuckle is a scammer, but I know for sure he is a
lying libelling halfwit. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, to
paraphrase. I know that you and some others will call that deplorable,
and then when you get offline look in the mirror and say "ooops, I do
that too..."

--

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Vieux 02/03/2008, 23h57   #13
1001 Webs
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On Mar 2, 7:53 pm, WindsorFox <darkshado...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1001 Webs wrote:
>
> > Please, don't feed the spammer.
> > You can report them for spamming these groups as we do all the time,
> > because Spam can also be described as posts that have no relevance to
> > the threads topic, or have no purpose in general (e.i, a user typing
> > "JDS Computer Training Corp. !" or other such useless posts in an
> > important news thread).

>
> Going out of your way to justify your previous ads by trying to make
> what Jerry posts look like ads is in poor form.

What's in poor form is to try to injure the reputation of another by
exposing him to hatred, contempt or ridicule, without justification or
lawful excuse.

> > Also report him as the scammer he is if he attempts to rip you off $US
> > 6.000 as he recently did from a poster who was merely asking for some
> > advice.
> > For more info about his criminal activities, please see here:

>
> <BS snipped>
>
> What are you trying to be Richard Scoville now? You can not use an
> archive post of your own fantasy BS as proof of your current fantasy BS.

His records at Maryland Tax Department and Maryland Judiciary are no
fantasy.

> You pointed out a member page on the ICCA site as a phish page, is
> that because you are too stupid to know the difference between an
> organization and it's individual members, or because you feel like you
> can get away with blatantly lying libel because you're in some third
> world country?

In this third world country libel is a crime and just for what you've
written above you'd be prosecuted.

> It's like saying that eBay is an illegal phishing site
> because one member is a thief.

If eBay finds out about someone carrying out illegal activities they
are legally required to cancel their accounts.

> And doing so when you have zero proof
> that the member in question has done anything wrong.

Maryland Tax Department and Maryland Judiciary have Jerry Stuckle's
criminal records publicly available online.
It serves the purpose of warning people about this character.

> Is any of this falling into place? I just know you're sitting there
> denying everything and saying to yourself, probably out loud how I'm a
> total idiot and couldn't see through a clean window, but if that were
> true, why is it you are the one being called a spammer, scammer and fool
> by large numbers of people, and you are pretty much the only one calling
> Jerry a thief? I'm sure there are people who don't particularly like
> him, maybe think he's an asshole, but no one is running the BS you are
> as a retaliation to being called a spammer when that is what you
> blatantly did, and you did it in exactly the way that article you posted
> talked about.

I don't care what number of posters side up with a proven scammer.
And you are insulting me again.

You have to understand something. When you accuse anybody of anything
you have to backup your accusations as I have done.
Otherwise you are nothing but a despicable libeler.
Definition of libel:
"a publication WITHOUT justification or lawful excuse which is
calculated to injure the reputation of another by exposing him to
hatred, contempt or ridicule."

Apparently it's no use trying to explain to you what Spam is.
Clean up that window, read the post again, learn what Spam is and come
back to the thread to contribute something albeit remotely relevant to
the topic at hand.
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Vieux 03/03/2008, 00h58   #14
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PerfectReign <theperfectreign@yahoo.com> wrote:

> John Bokma turned on the Etch-A-Sketch and wrote:
>
>> PerfectReign <theperfectreign@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Gecko/20080207 Ubuntu/7.10 (gutsy)

>>
>>> At least you're using a real OS and not one of those toy operating
>>> systems like wintendo or the cult of mac.

>>
>> You made me LOL (I always LOL when I see an ignorant fanboi)
>>

>
> I'm ignorant but not a fanboi.
>
> I use Wintendo, too.


Then don't use fanboi speak.

> ...though if you're stuck using wintendo, then xnews is a good choice.


Only ignorant fanboys are stuck. Sadly, most will never discover this.

LOLs again, a bit louder this time.

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Vieux 03/03/2008, 04h08   #15
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"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:2p-dnRZxX8mbMFfanZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> PerfectReign wrote:
> > 1001 Webs turned on the Etch-A-Sketch and wrote:
> >
> >> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
> >>
> >> "Spamming is the abuse of electronic messaging systems to
> >> indiscriminately send unsolicited bulk messages. While the most widely
> >> recognized form of spam is e-mail spam, the term is applied to similar
> >> abuses in other media: instant messaging spam, Usenet newsgroup spam,
> >> Web search engine spam, spam in blogs, wiki spam, mobile phone
> >> messaging spam, Internet forum spam and junk fax transmissions.

> > <snip>
> >
> > Well, thank you very much for that insight...
> >
> >> More Info:
> >> (OT) Why accessing usenet through Google Groups sucks

> >
> > Hmmm.... *checks headers*
> >
> >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.36.135.244

> >
> > Hey, can I get some tapas? Yo quiero una tortilla.
> >
> > Dos cervesas por favor!
> >
> >
> >> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1204456977 1454 127.0.0.1 (2 Mar 2008

11:22:57
> > GMT)
> >> User-Agent: G2/1.0
> >> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12)

> > Gecko/20080207 Ubuntu/7.10 (gutsy)

Firefox/2.0.0.12,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> >
> > your point being?
> >
> >
> > At least you're using a real OS and not one of those toy operating

systems
> > like wintendo or the cult of mac.
> >
> >

>
> Ignore him. He's a known troll and spammer. He makes up lies and
> slanders anyone who disagrees with him or spreads the truth about him -
> like he'll call me a criminal with some trumped up crap.
>
> Most of the regulars in a.w.w. have plonked him, and the only time we
> see him is when someone responds.
>

Or when someone crosspost spams someone...


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Vieux 03/03/2008, 04h49   #16
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John Bokma turned on the Etch-A-Sketch and wrote:

> PerfectReign <theperfectreign@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> John Bokma turned on the Etch-A-Sketch and wrote:
>>
>>> PerfectReign <theperfectreign@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gecko/20080207 Ubuntu/7.10 (gutsy)
>>>
>>>> At least you're using a real OS and not one of those toy operating
>>>> systems like wintendo or the cult of mac.
>>>
>>> You made me LOL (I always LOL when I see an ignorant fanboi)
>>>

>>
>> I'm ignorant but not a fanboi.
>>
>> I use Wintendo, too.

>
> Then don't use fanboi speak.


Oh, yes sir, John, sir.

I will be sure and do that.

:P


>
>> ...though if you're stuck using wintendo, then xnews is a good choice.

>
> Only ignorant fanboys are stuck. Sadly, most will never discover this.
>
> LOLs again, a bit louder this time.
>


Always remember - Linux: It sucks less than Windows.


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Vieux 03/03/2008, 05h16   #17
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PerfectReign <theperfectreign@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Always remember - Linux: It sucks less than Windows.


QED: you're a clueless fanboi. Not that I ever doubted anything else.

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Vieux 03/03/2008, 05h26   #18
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John Bokma turned on the Etch-A-Sketch and wrote:

> PerfectReign <theperfectreign@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Always remember - Linux: It sucks less than Windows.

>
> QED: you're a clueless fanboi. Not that I ever doubted anything else.
>


ouch!!!

I've been stung by teh usenet fanboi police.

Please !!

I find it funny how Windows peeps tend to start calling names when the
mention of superior OS possibilities come into play.

Oh, and exactly *who* am I a fanboi for?

<insert jeopardy music here>


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Vieux 03/03/2008, 06h02   #19
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On Mar 3, 5:53am, WindsorFox <darkshado...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1001 Webs wrote:
>
> > Please, don't feed the spammer.
> > You can report them for spamming these groups as we do all the time,
> > because Spam can also be described as posts that have no relevance to
> > the threads topic, or have no purpose in general (e.i, a user typing
> > "JDS Computer Training Corp. !" or other such useless posts in an
> > important news thread).

>
> Going out of your way to justify your previous ads by trying to make
> what Jerry posts look like ads is in poor form.
>
>
>
> > Also report him as the scammer he is if he attempts to rip you off $US
> > 6.000 as he recently did from a poster who was merely asking for some
> > advice.
> > For more info about his criminal activities, please see here:

>
> <BS snipped>
>
> What are you trying to be Richard Scoville now? You can not use an
> archive post of your own fantasy BS as proof of your current fantasy BS.
> You pointed out a member page on the ICCA site as a phish page, is
> that because you are too stupid to know the difference between an
> organization and it's individual members, or because you feel like you
> can get away with blatantly lying libel because you're in some third
> world country? It's like saying that eBay is an illegal phishing site
> because one member is a thief. And doing so when you have zero proof
> that the member in question has done anything wrong.
>
> Is any of this falling into place? I just know you're sitting there
> denying everything and saying to yourself, probably out loud how I'm a
> total idiot and couldn't see through a clean window, but if that were
> true, why is it you are the one being called a spammer, scammer and fool
> by large numbers of people, and you are pretty much the only one calling
> Jerry a thief? I'm sure there are people who don't particularly like
> him, maybe think he's an asshole, but no one is running the BS you are
> as a retaliation to being called a spammer when that is what you
> blatantly did, and you did it in exactly the way that article you posted
> talked about.
>

I agree.
After all he (1001webs) wrote similar things about me in this and
other newsgroups which was just not true and made him look bad in the
end.
--
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Vieux 03/03/2008, 08h57   #20
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On 3 Mar 2008 05:16:20 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:

>PerfectReign <theperfectreign@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Always remember - Linux: It sucks less than Windows.

>
>QED: you're a clueless fanboi. Not that I ever doubted anything else.


Wow...talk about clueless, LOL, you really do need to get one, Newfag.
PS - You're no web developer, Wannabe.

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http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
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Vieux 03/03/2008, 09h40   #21
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On Mar 3, 5:08 am, "Jonathan Herr" <dracosil...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:2p-dnRZxX8mbMFfanZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> > PerfectReign wrote:
> > > 1001 Webs turned on the Etch-A-Sketch and wrote:

>
> > >> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

>
> > >> "Spamming is the abuse of electronic messaging systems to
> > >> indiscriminately send unsolicited bulk messages. While the most widely
> > >> recognized form of spam is e-mail spam, the term is applied to similar
> > >> abuses in other media: instant messaging spam, Usenet newsgroup spam,
> > >> Web search engine spam, spam in blogs, wiki spam, mobile phone
> > >> messaging spam, Internet forum spam and junk fax transmissions.
> > > <snip>

>
> > > Well, thank you very much for that insight...

>
> > >> More Info:
> > >> (OT) Why accessing usenet through Google Groups sucks

>
> > > Hmmm.... *checks headers*

>
> > >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.36.135.244

>
> > > Hey, can I get some tapas? Yo quiero una tortilla.

>
> > > Dos cervesas por favor!

>
> > >> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1204456977 1454 127.0.0.1 (2 Mar 2008

> 11:22:57
> > > GMT)
> > >> User-Agent: G2/1.0
> > >> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12)
> > > Gecko/20080207 Ubuntu/7.10 (gutsy)

>
> Firefox/2.0.0.12,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>
>
>
> > > your point being?

>
> > > At least you're using a real OS and not one of those toy operating

> systems
> > > like wintendo or the cult of mac.

&