Hi all,

I've just had someone saying this webpage is all messed up,
http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/

I've tested it in IE, FF and Opera and can't find any problem.
Can someone have a look and see if it is messed up for them.

Many thanks.

T.J. wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've just had someone saying this webpage is all messed up,
> http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/
>
> I've tested it in IE, FF and Opera and can't find any problem.
> Can someone have a look and see if it is messed up for them.
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
>

Looks ok here. What browser are they using?

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"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> T.J. wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've just had someone saying this webpage is all messed up,
>> http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/
>>
>> I've tested it in IE, FF and Opera and can't find any problem.
>> Can someone have a look and see if it is messed up for them.
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Looks ok here. What browser are they using?
>
>

Thanks for the reply,
They are using IE and from the screenshot they sent
it looks like XP
The screenshot shows just a blank white space where
the content area is, with the content pushed down so
it only starts in line with the bottom link on the left hand
navigation.

I know it sometimes happens if I put too wide an image on
the page (drag the page narrow enough and you
will see the images on the right suddenly drop down in IE)
But I overcome this with the top big image by putting it in
a div that expands and contracts with the page.

Could it be that the top image doesn't contract with
some peoples set ups?

There is also a 500 wide image behind the peelback system
could this be causing the problem if they have javascript
switched off?

Thanks again

T.J. wrote:
> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:waudnQWUyLLmKlvanZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> T.J. wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've just had someone saying this webpage is all messed up,
>>> http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/
>>>
>>> I've tested it in IE, FF and Opera and can't find any problem.
>>> Can someone have a look and see if it is messed up for them.
>>>
>>> Many thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Looks ok here. What browser are they using?
>>
>>
>
> Thanks for the reply,
> They are using IE and from the screenshot they sent
> it looks like XP
> The screenshot shows just a blank white space where
> the content area is, with the content pushed down so
> it only starts in line with the bottom link on the left hand
> navigation.
>
> I know it sometimes happens if I put too wide an image on
> the page (drag the page narrow enough and you
> will see the images on the right suddenly drop down in IE)
> But I overcome this with the top big image by putting it in
> a div that expands and contracts with the page.
>
> Could it be that the top image doesn't contract with
> some peoples set ups?
>
> There is also a 500 wide image behind the peelback system
> could this be causing the problem if they have javascript
> switched off?
>
> Thanks again
>
>
>

Interesting. I don't see any such behavior. In fact, I find your page
resizes much better than most - a very well done job!

I'm wondering if they're using an old version of IE - maybe they never
updated to IE 6. Can you ask them which version they have?

Or, maybe they've already updated to IE7...

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"T.J." <no1@home.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> I've just had someone saying this webpage is all messed up,
> http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/
>
> I've tested it in IE, FF and Opera and can't find any problem.
> Can someone have a look and see if it is messed up for them.
>
> Many thanks.

Perhaps they may have CSS disabled.

"T.J." <no1@home.invalid> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've just had someone saying this webpage is all messed up,
> http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/

Ask for a screendump.

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"T.J." <no1@home.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> I've just had someone saying this webpage is all messed up,
> http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/
>
> I've tested it in IE, FF and Opera and can't find any problem.
> Can someone have a look and see if it is messed up for them.
>
> Many thanks.

Looks okay to me (both IE and FireFox).

IE reports that there is a script error somewhere on the page. Typical
unful: "A Runtime Error has occurred. Do you wish to Debug? Line: 16
Error: Object expected", but this doesn't seem to compromise the behaviour
of the page.
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T.J. wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've just had someone saying this webpage is all messed up,
> http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/
>
> I've tested it in IE, FF and Opera and can't find any problem.
> Can someone have a look and see if it is messed up for them.

Have them enable styles.


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T.J. wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've just had someone saying this webpage is all messed up,
> http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/
>
> I've tested it in IE, FF and Opera and can't find any problem.
> Can someone have a look and see if it is messed up for them.
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
The behavior you describe occurs at a browser width of 640, and, IMO, is
actually correct behavior. I wouldn't be too worried about it.

"Tony" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
news:13se9so54tem477@corp.supernews.com...
> T.J. wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've just had someone saying this webpage is all messed up,
>> http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/
>>
>> I've tested it in IE, FF and Opera and can't find any problem.
>> Can someone have a look and see if it is messed up for them.
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>>
> The behavior you describe occurs at a browser width of 640, and, IMO, is
> actually correct behavior. I wouldn't be too worried about it.


Thanks all,

I will try and find out what settings they have
tomorrow, no one else has got the problem
and I can't replicate it, typical that it has to be
someone who we are trying to close a deal on.

Thanks again

Chuck Anderson wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> T.J. wrote:
>>
>>> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:waudnQWUyLLmKlvanZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>
>>>> T.J. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've just had someone saying this webpage is all messed up,
>>>>> http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tested it in IE, FF and Opera and can't find any problem.
>>>>> Can someone have a look and see if it is messed up for them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Looks ok here. What browser are they using?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply,
>>> They are using IE and from the screenshot they sent
>>> it looks like XP
>>> The screenshot shows just a blank white space where
>>> the content area is, with the content pushed down so
>>> it only starts in line with the bottom link on the left hand
>>> navigation.
>>>
>>> I know it sometimes happens if I put too wide an image on
>>> the page (drag the page narrow enough and you
>>> will see the images on the right suddenly drop down in IE)
>>> But I overcome this with the top big image by putting it in
>>> a div that expands and contracts with the page.
>>>
>>> Could it be that the top image doesn't contract with
>>> some peoples set ups?
>>>
>>> There is also a 500 wide image behind the peelback system
>>> could this be causing the problem if they have javascript
>>> switched off?
>>>
>>> Thanks again
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Interesting. I don't see any such behavior. In fact, I find your
>> page resizes much better than most - a very well done job!
>>
>> I'm wondering if they're using an old version of IE - maybe they never
>> updated to IE 6. Can you ask them which version they have?
>>
>> Or, maybe they've already updated to IE7...
>>
>>
>
> Okay, that's a new one on me. How do you make images scrunch up like
> that? Is there anywhere I can go to read about how that's done?
>

CSS.

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Tony wrote:
> T.J. wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've just had someone saying this webpage is all messed up,
>> http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/
>>
>> I've tested it in IE, FF and Opera and can't find any problem.
>> Can someone have a look and see if it is messed up for them.
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>>
> The behavior you describe occurs at a browser width of 640, and, IMO, is
> actually correct behavior. I wouldn't be too worried about it.
>

Tony,

I sized my window to less than 500 in both Firefox and IE and didn't see it.

I would not consider that "good behavior".

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> T.J. wrote:
>
>> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:waudnQWUyLLmKlvanZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>
>>> T.J. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I've just had someone saying this webpage is all messed up,
>>>> http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/
>>>>
>>>> I've tested it in IE, FF and Opera and can't find any problem.
>>>> Can someone have a look and see if it is messed up for them.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Looks ok here. What browser are they using?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks for the reply,
>> They are using IE and from the screenshot they sent
>> it looks like XP
>> The screenshot shows just a blank white space where
>> the content area is, with the content pushed down so
>> it only starts in line with the bottom link on the left hand
>> navigation.
>>
>> I know it sometimes happens if I put too wide an image on
>> the page (drag the page narrow enough and you
>> will see the images on the right suddenly drop down in IE)
>> But I overcome this with the top big image by putting it in
>> a div that expands and contracts with the page.
>>
>> Could it be that the top image doesn't contract with
>> some peoples set ups?
>>
>> There is also a 500 wide image behind the peelback system
>> could this be causing the problem if they have javascript
>> switched off?
>>
>> Thanks again
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Interesting. I don't see any such behavior. In fact, I find your page
> resizes much better than most - a very well done job!
>
> I'm wondering if they're using an old version of IE - maybe they never
> updated to IE 6. Can you ask them which version they have?
>
> Or, maybe they've already updated to IE7...
>
>

Okay, that's a new one on me. How do you make images scrunch up like
that? Is there anywhere I can go to read about how that's done?

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Tony wrote:
>> T.J. wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've just had someone saying this webpage is all messed up,
>>> http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/
>>>
>>> I've tested it in IE, FF and Opera and can't find any problem.
>>> Can someone have a look and see if it is messed up for them.
>>>
>>> Many thanks.
>>>
>>>
>> The behavior you describe occurs at a browser width of 640, and, IMO,
>> is actually correct behavior. I wouldn't be too worried about it.
>>
>
> Tony,
>
> I sized my window to less than 500 in both Firefox and IE and didn't see
> it.

At 640px width in IE 6, the content drops down below the picutres -
perhaps I misunderstood the problem.

>
> I would not consider that "good behavior".
>

You would rather the content div be compressed to an unreadable width,
or overflow onto the pictures?

Tony wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Tony wrote:
>>> T.J. wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I've just had someone saying this webpage is all messed up,
>>>> http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/
>>>>
>>>> I've tested it in IE, FF and Opera and can't find any problem.
>>>> Can someone have a look and see if it is messed up for them.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The behavior you describe occurs at a browser width of 640, and, IMO,
>>> is actually correct behavior. I wouldn't be too worried about it.
>>>
>>
>> Tony,
>>
>> I sized my window to less than 500 in both Firefox and IE and didn't
>> see it.
>
> At 640px width in IE 6, the content drops down below the picutres -
> perhaps I misunderstood the problem.
>
>>
>> I would not consider that "good behavior".
>>
>
> You would rather the content div be compressed to an unreadable width,
> or overflow onto the pictures?
>

It doesn't drop down in my IE6, even at 500px wide. It does, however,
become very narrow. But if that's what the viewer wants...

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"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Tony wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> Tony wrote:
>>>> T.J. wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've just had someone saying this webpage is all messed up,
>>>>> http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tested it in IE, FF and Opera and can't find any problem.
>>>>> Can someone have a look and see if it is messed up for them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The behavior you describe occurs at a browser width of 640, and, IMO,
>>>> is actually correct behavior. I wouldn't be too worried about it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Tony,
>>>
>>> I sized my window to less than 500 in both Firefox and IE and didn't see
>>> it.
>>
>> At 640px width in IE 6, the content drops down below the picutres -
>> perhaps I misunderstood the problem.
>>
>>>
>>> I would not consider that "good behavior".
>>>
>>
>> You would rather the content div be compressed to an unreadable width, or
>> overflow onto the pictures?
>>
>
> It doesn't drop down in my IE6, even at 500px wide. It does, however,
> become very narrow. But if that's what the viewer wants...
>

This is an example of what they see
http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/test29.html
it happens when I don't put the big image in to
the flexible div, which makes me assume that is
the problem?
Would doing that in the CSS not work for everybody?

T.J. wrote:
> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:coqdnSa1ZL7n9lranZ2dnUVZ_tzinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Tony wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> Tony wrote:
>>>>> T.J. wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've just had someone saying this webpage is all messed up,
>>>>>> http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've tested it in IE, FF and Opera and can't find any problem.
>>>>>> Can someone have a look and see if it is messed up for them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> The behavior you describe occurs at a browser width of 640, and, IMO,
>>>>> is actually correct behavior. I wouldn't be too worried about it.
>>>>>
>>>> Tony,
>>>>
>>>> I sized my window to less than 500 in both Firefox and IE and didn't see
>>>> it.
>>> At 640px width in IE 6, the content drops down below the picutres -
>>> perhaps I misunderstood the problem.
>>>
>>>> I would not consider that "good behavior".
>>>>
>>> You would rather the content div be compressed to an unreadable width, or
>>> overflow onto the pictures?
>>>
>> It doesn't drop down in my IE6, even at 500px wide. It does, however,
>> become very narrow. But if that's what the viewer wants...
>>
>
> This is an example of what they see
> http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/test29.html
> it happens when I don't put the big image in to
> the flexible div, which makes me assume that is
> the problem?
> Would doing that in the CSS not work for everybody?
>
>
>

So it's not shrinking the image, which makes sense. But I don't know
why it wouldn't be shrinking for them.

BTW - I've never been a fan of dynamically resizing images. I don't
like the distortion. I'd rather cut them off.

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T.J. wrote:
>
> This is an example of what they see
> http://www.uk-conference-venues.co.uk/test29.html
> it happens when I don't put the big image in to
> the flexible div, which makes me assume that is
> the problem?

IE6's overflow behavior is broken. It incorrectly expands the width to
fit the content instead of letting it spill out like other browsers do.
When this happens with floated elements, it naturally causes the now
too-wide element to slide under the left column. This bug was corrected
in IE7, assuming you trigger standards mode.

If you set overflow:hidden on the image's container, it might stop IE6
from misbehaving, but I haven't looked at your code so I don't know if
there might be negative impacts to other browsers.

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