Hello everyone

GoDaddy.com and 1&1.com are two discount (less than $10/yr) registrars I am
aware of. Any other recommended discount registrars?

John Dalberg

John Dalberg <nospam@nospam.sss> wrote in message:
20080214173801.396$6R@newsreader.com,

> Hello everyone
>
> GoDaddy.com and 1&1.com are two discount (less than $10/yr)
> registrars I am aware of. Any other recommended discount registrars?
>
> John Dalberg

From:
http://www.aww-faq.org/aww-links.html#Domain

http://www.cheap-domainregistration.com/
http://www.active-domain.com/
http://www.registerfly.com/domains/
http://www.gkg.net/
http://www.weblaunching.net/

--
Red

On 14 Feb 2008 22:37:58 GMT, nospam@nospam.sss (John Dalberg) wrote:

>Hello everyone
>
>GoDaddy.com and 1&1.com are two discount (less than $10/yr) registrars I am
>aware of. Any other recommended discount registrars?
>
>John Dalberg

I say stick with Go Daddy. I have all but one of my domains
registered with them. They have a good price, good service, and a
twenty-four hour order/support number.

Their Web interface to manage your domains is fairly easy to
use.

I've only had good experiences with them.

Go for it.




Fred

Fred Atkinson wrote:
> On 14 Feb 2008 22:37:58 GMT, nospam@nospam.sss (John Dalberg) wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone
>>
>> GoDaddy.com and 1&1.com are two discount (less than $10/yr) registrars I am
>> aware of. Any other recommended discount registrars?
>>
>> John Dalberg
>
> I say stick with Go Daddy. I have all but one of my domains
> registered with them. They have a good price, good service, and a
> twenty-four hour order/support number.
>
> Their Web interface to manage your domains is fairly easy to
> use.
>
> I've only had good experiences with them.
>
> Go for it.

Did anyone notice that this guy also wants a registrar where he can use
a script, instead of manual registration?

Putting the two questions together makes me a bit suspicious...

Tony <nospam@example.com> wrote:
> Fred Atkinson wrote:
> > On 14 Feb 2008 22:37:58 GMT, nospam@nospam.sss (John Dalberg) wrote:
> >
> >> Hello everyone
> >>
> >> GoDaddy.com and 1&1.com are two discount (less than $10/yr) registrars
> >> I am aware of. Any other recommended discount registrars?
> >>
> >> John Dalberg
> >
> > I say stick with Go Daddy. I have all but one of my domains
> > registered with them. They have a good price, good service, and a
> > twenty-four hour order/support number.
> >
> > Their Web interface to manage your domains is fairly easy to
> > use.
> >
> > I've only had good experiences with them.
> >
> > Go for it.
>
> Did anyone notice that this guy also wants a registrar where he can use
> a script, instead of manual registration?
>
> Putting the two questions together makes me a bit suspicious...


I want to automate the process and I don't want to pay more than I need to.
What is suspicious about it, Tony? Please do tell.

John Dalberg

On 2008-02-17, John Dalberg <nospam@nospam.sss> wrote:

> I want to automate the process and I don't want to pay more than I need to.
> What is suspicious about it, Tony? Please do tell.

Automating the process is pointless for a small number of domains, and
people who register tons of domains at once usually do so with bad intent
(e.g., spammers trying to avoid being caught). How many domains are we
talking about here?



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Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
> On 2008-02-17, John Dalberg <nospam@nospam.sss> wrote:
>
> > I want to automate the process and I don't want to pay more than I need
> > to. What is suspicious about it, Tony? Please do tell.
>
> Automating the process is pointless for a small number of domains, and
> people who register tons of domains at once usually do so with bad intent
> (e.g., spammers trying to avoid being caught). How many domains are we
> talking about here?

Maybe it's pointless for you but not for me. Why should I spend time
registering like 10 domain names a day if I can automate the process? Does
10 equate to "ton" to you?

FYI, spammers do not need to register domain names to be able to send out
spam. They can hook with a spambot net or register a free main account
account or whatever. The weak link is opening accounts with ISPs or hosting
companies. It's not the registration of domain names. A spammer can hack
your home computer and use it to send out messages. He doesn't need a
domain name to do this.

Like I said in my original post, I am paying for the names. There's no bad
intent.

John Dalberg

John Dalberg wrote:
> Tony <nospam@example.com> wrote:
>> Fred Atkinson wrote:
>>> On 14 Feb 2008 22:37:58 GMT, nospam@nospam.sss (John Dalberg) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello everyone
>>>>
>>>> GoDaddy.com and 1&1.com are two discount (less than $10/yr) registrars
>>>> I am aware of. Any other recommended discount registrars?
>>>>
>>>> John Dalberg
>>> I say stick with Go Daddy. I have all but one of my domains
>>> registered with them. They have a good price, good service, and a
>>> twenty-four hour order/support number.
>>>
>>> Their Web interface to manage your domains is fairly easy to
>>> use.
>>>
>>> I've only had good experiences with them.
>>>
>>> Go for it.
>> Did anyone notice that this guy also wants a registrar where he can use
>> a script, instead of manual registration?
>>
>> Putting the two questions together makes me a bit suspicious...
>
>
> I want to automate the process and I don't want to pay more than I need to.
> What is suspicious about it, Tony? Please do tell.
>
> John Dalberg

How many domains are you planning on squatting?

You're saying you want to register 10 domains PER DAY. There is no
possible way you can be building websites for that many, so the only
conclusion I'm left to reach is that you're either squatting domains or
building automated link farms - neither of which is a legitimate
business use.

You want to automate the registration process. With GoDaddy, at least,
the longest part of the process is FINDING the domains - you can spend
all kinds of time looking for good domains, put them all into the same
checkout process, and then go through checkout once. You're saying that
the 2 minutes it takes to go through the checkout process is too much work?

"Like I said in my original post, I am paying for the names." - So
you're paying. That means nothing.

"There's no bad intent." - squatting or link farms is bad intent. I find
it extremely difficult to conceive of any legitimate circumstance that
would warrant the registration of 10 domain names PER DAY. That's $100
per day in expenses. How many domains are you planning on registering?
What are you going to do with all these domains?

You asked what is suspicious? Well, the fact that you want automated and
cheap is suspicious. There are reasons that the registrars want to be
sure that REAL PEOPLE are registering domains. People who want to bypass
those constraints rarely have legitimate, honest reasons for doing so.

Tony <nospam@example.com> wrote:
> John Dalberg wrote:
> > Tony <nospam@example.com> wrote:
> >> Fred Atkinson wrote:
> >>> On 14 Feb 2008 22:37:58 GMT, nospam@nospam.sss (John Dalberg) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hello everyone
> >>>>
> >>>> GoDaddy.com and 1&1.com are two discount (less than $10/yr)
> >>>> registrars I am aware of. Any other recommended discount registrars?
> >>>>
> >>>> John Dalberg
> >>> I say stick with Go Daddy. I have all but one of my domains
> >>> registered with them. They have a good price, good service, and a
> >>> twenty-four hour order/support number.
> >>>
> >>> Their Web interface to manage your domains is fairly easy to
> >>> use.
> >>>
> >>> I've only had good experiences with them.
> >>>
> >>> Go for it.
> >> Did anyone notice that this guy also wants a registrar where he can
> >> use a script, instead of manual registration?
> >>
> >> Putting the two questions together makes me a bit suspicious...
> >
> >
> > I want to automate the process and I don't want to pay more than I need
> > to. What is suspicious about it, Tony? Please do tell.
> >
> > John Dalberg
>
> How many domains are you planning on squatting?
>
> You're saying you want to register 10 domains PER DAY. There is no
> possible way you can be building websites for that many, so the only
> conclusion I'm left to reach is that you're either squatting domains or
> building automated link farms - neither of which is a legitimate
> business use.
>
> You want to automate the registration process. With GoDaddy, at least,
> the longest part of the process is FINDING the domains - you can spend
> all kinds of time looking for good domains, put them all into the same
> checkout process, and then go through checkout once. You're saying that
> the 2 minutes it takes to go through the checkout process is too much
> work?
>
> "Like I said in my original post, I am paying for the names." - So
> you're paying. That means nothing.
>
> "There's no bad intent." - squatting or link farms is bad intent. I find
> it extremely difficult to conceive of any legitimate circumstance that
> would warrant the registration of 10 domain names PER DAY. That's $100
> per day in expenses. How many domains are you planning on registering?
> What are you going to do with all these domains?
>
> You asked what is suspicious? Well, the fact that you want automated and
> cheap is suspicious. There are reasons that the registrars want to be
> sure that REAL PEOPLE are registering domains. People who want to bypass
> those constraints rarely have legitimate, honest reasons for doing so.

Who the hell are you to decide I don't need 10 domain names per day and
that paying for them means nothing? Is there a limit set by any
organization? No there aren't. If I am paying for them, I have the right to
pay for one a year or 10 a day.

There's nothing wrong for using a script to automate a process as long as I
am paying for them. eBay has an api. Amazon has an api and thousands of
online services provide.

You're a turd to take the stance of guilty until proven innocent and
telling me the longest part is finding a name as if I am registering any
name or I don't know a thing about the process. It's none of your business
what I plan to do with the names. Take a hike.


John Dalberg

On 2008-02-18, John Dalberg <nospam@nospam.sss> wrote:

> You're a turd to take the stance of guilty until proven innocent and
> telling me the longest part is finding a name as if I am registering any
> name or I don't know a thing about the process. It's none of your business
> what I plan to do with the names. Take a hike.

Nice.

Personally, I'm not telling you you can or can't do anything. I do, however,
agree that your questions seem rather suspicious.

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John Dalberg <nospam@nospam.sss> wrote in message:
20080217210933.807$4B@newsreader.com,
> Who the hell are you to decide I don't need 10 domain names per day
> and that paying for them means nothing? Is there a limit set by any
> organization? No there aren't. If I am paying for them, I have the
> right to pay for one a year or 10 a day.

True. But what you don't have a right to is some free advice from anyone
in AWW.

It's not unusual for people to be questioned as to why they are asking
how to do certain things, because often times there are better ways of
going about it. Occasionally the answers given lead to suspicions that
someone may be up to no good. If one reacts badly to additional
questions, the suspicions become assumptions.

--
Red

John Dalberg wrote:
> Tony <nospam@example.com> wrote:
>> John Dalberg wrote:
>>> Tony <nospam@example.com> wrote:
>>>> Fred Atkinson wrote:
>>>>> On 14 Feb 2008 22:37:58 GMT, nospam@nospam.sss (John Dalberg) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello everyone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GoDaddy.com and 1&1.com are two discount (less than $10/yr)
>>>>>> registrars I am aware of. Any other recommended discount registrars?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Dalberg
>>>>> I say stick with Go Daddy. I have all but one of my domains
>>>>> registered with them. They have a good price, good service, and a
>>>>> twenty-four hour order/support number.
>>>>>
>>>>> Their Web interface to manage your domains is fairly easy to
>>>>> use.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've only had good experiences with them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Go for it.
>>>> Did anyone notice that this guy also wants a registrar where he can
>>>> use a script, instead of manual registration?
>>>>
>>>> Putting the two questions together makes me a bit suspicious...
>>>
>>> I want to automate the process and I don't want to pay more than I need
>>> to. What is suspicious about it, Tony? Please do tell.
>>>
>>> John Dalberg
>> How many domains are you planning on squatting?
>>
>> You're saying you want to register 10 domains PER DAY. There is no
>> possible way you can be building websites for that many, so the only
>> conclusion I'm left to reach is that you're either squatting domains or
>> building automated link farms - neither of which is a legitimate
>> business use.
>>
>> You want to automate the registration process. With GoDaddy, at least,
>> the longest part of the process is FINDING the domains - you can spend
>> all kinds of time looking for good domains, put them all into the same
>> checkout process, and then go through checkout once. You're saying that
>> the 2 minutes it takes to go through the checkout process is too much
>> work?
>>
>> "Like I said in my original post, I am paying for the names." - So
>> you're paying. That means nothing.
>>
>> "There's no bad intent." - squatting or link farms is bad intent. I find
>> it extremely difficult to conceive of any legitimate circumstance that
>> would warrant the registration of 10 domain names PER DAY. That's $100
>> per day in expenses. How many domains are you planning on registering?
>> What are you going to do with all these domains?
>>
>> You asked what is suspicious? Well, the fact that you want automated and
>> cheap is suspicious. There are reasons that the registrars want to be
>> sure that REAL PEOPLE are registering domains. People who want to bypass
>> those constraints rarely have legitimate, honest reasons for doing so.
>
> Who the hell are you to decide I don't need 10 domain names per day and
> that paying for them means nothing? Is there a limit set by any
> organization? No there aren't. If I am paying for them, I have the right to
> pay for one a year or 10 a day.
>
> There's nothing wrong for using a script to automate a process as long as I
> am paying for them. eBay has an api. Amazon has an api and thousands of
> online services provide.
>
> You're a turd to take the stance of guilty until proven innocent and
> telling me the longest part is finding a name as if I am registering any
> name or I don't know a thing about the process. It's none of your business
> what I plan to do with the names. Take a hike.
>
>
> John Dalberg
>

Sorry, John. I agree with Tony. No respectable webmaster is registering
10 domains a day. One person just can't create that many websites per
day - at least not individual ones. Of course, duplicates of the same
website are something else.

And your response pretty much confirms you have some sleazy plan up your
sleeve.

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JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attglobal.net
==================

Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
> John Dalberg wrote:
> > Tony <nospam@example.com> wrote:
> >> John Dalberg wrote:
> >>> Tony <nospam@example.com> wrote:
> >>>> Fred Atkinson wrote:
> >>>>> On 14 Feb 2008 22:37:58 GMT, nospam@nospam.sss (John Dalberg)
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hello everyone
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> GoDaddy.com and 1&1.com are two discount (less than $10/yr)
> >>>>>> registrars I am aware of. Any other recommended discount
> >>>>>> registrars?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> John Dalberg
> >>>>> I say stick with Go Daddy. I have all but one of my domains
> >>>>> registered with them. They have a good price, good service, and a
> >>>>> twenty-four hour order/support number.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Their Web interface to manage your domains is fairly easy to
> >>>>> use.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've only had good experiences with them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Go for it.
> >>>> Did anyone notice that this guy also wants a registrar where he can
> >>>> use a script, instead of manual registration?
> >>>>
> >>>> Putting the two questions together makes me a bit suspicious...
> >>>
> >>> I want to automate the process and I don't want to pay more than I
> >>> need to. What is suspicious about it, Tony? Please do tell.
> >>>
> >>> John Dalberg
> >> How many domains are you planning on squatting?
> >>
> >> You're saying you want to register 10 domains PER DAY. There is no
> >> possible way you can be building websites for that many, so the only
> >> conclusion I'm left to reach is that you're either squatting domains
> >> or building automated link farms - neither of which is a legitimate
> >> business use.
> >>
> >> You want to automate the registration process. With GoDaddy, at least,
> >> the longest part of the process is FINDING the domains - you can spend
> >> all kinds of time looking for good domains, put them all into the same
> >> checkout process, and then go through checkout once. You're saying
> >> that the 2 minutes it takes to go through the checkout process is too
> >> much work?
> >>
> >> "Like I said in my original post, I am paying for the names." - So
> >> you're paying. That means nothing.
> >>
> >> "There's no bad intent." - squatting or link farms is bad intent. I
> >> find it extremely difficult to conceive of any legitimate circumstance
> >> that would warrant the registration of 10 domain names PER DAY. That's
> >> $100 per day in expenses. How many domains are you planning on
> >> registering? What are you going to do with all these domains?
> >>
> >> You asked what is suspicious? Well, the fact that you want automated
> >> and cheap is suspicious. There are reasons that the registrars want to
> >> be sure that REAL PEOPLE are registering domains. People who want to
> >> bypass those constraints rarely have legitimate, honest reasons for
> >> doing so.
> >
> > Who the hell are you to decide I don't need 10 domain names per day and
> > that paying for them means nothing? Is there a limit set by any
> > organization? No there aren't. If I am paying for them, I have the
> > right to pay for one a year or 10 a day.
> >
> > There's nothing wrong for using a script to automate a process as long
> > as I am paying for them. eBay has an api. Amazon has an api and
> > thousands of online services provide.
> >
> > You're a turd to take the stance of guilty until proven innocent and
> > telling me the longest part is finding a name as if I am registering
> > any name or I don't know a thing about the process. It's none of your
> > business what I plan to do with the names. Take a hike.
> >
> >
> > John Dalberg
> >
>
> Sorry, John. I agree with Tony. No respectable webmaster is registering
> 10 domains a day. One person just can't create that many websites per
> day - at least not individual ones. Of course, duplicates of the same
> website are something else.
>
> And your response pretty much confirms you have some sleazy plan up your
> sleeve.

I don't have a sleezy plan and I said so and if people here are going to
ask for my life history and ask .. why.. when.. how many.. where..I am not
going to spend time explaining anything. I will just ask the reigstrars
themselves. In the end the outcome to me is no one actually knows the
answer. No one knew back in Apr 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.w...d/thread/5f8ef
e9f7417e746/6d30d069ca70942f?hl=en&lnk=st&q=#6d30d069ca70942f

and

No one knew back in 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.w...d/thread/f23da
ca87fcfc58d/b3ebd99f457eb5f6?hl=en&lnk=st&q=#b3ebd99f457eb5f6

I figured registrars are more sophisticated by now but I guess not.

John Dalberg

On 18 Feb 2008 02:09:30 GMT, nospam@nospam.sss (John Dalberg) wrote:


>
>Who the hell are you to decide I don't need 10 domain names per day and
>that paying for them means nothing? Is there a limit set by any
>organization? No there aren't. If I am paying for them, I have the right to
>pay for one a year or 10 a day.
>
>There's nothing wrong for using a script to automate a process as long as I
>am paying for them. eBay has an api. Amazon has an api and thousands of
>online services provide.

You'r right. You have every right to ask the same questions a spammer
asks and we have a right to point out that you're likely a spammer.

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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:26:05 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
<jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:

> One person just can't create that many websites per
>day - at least not individual ones.

Fool. Who says there's just one person? Argue facts, dipshit, not
crap you make up in your pointy little head.
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On 2008-02-18, John Dalberg <nospam@nospam.sss> wrote:

> I don't have a sleezy plan and I said so and if people here are going to
> ask for my life history and ask .. why.. when.. how many.. where..I am not
> going to spend time explaining anything. I will just ask the reigstrars
> themselves.

No one wants, or gives a flying fuck about, your life history. I'm sorry
you didn't get the answer you wanted. Have a nice life.

--
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Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol

Gary L. Burnore <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote:
> On 18 Feb 2008 02:09:30 GMT, nospam@nospam.sss (John Dalberg) wrote:
>
> >
> >Who the hell are you to decide I don't need 10 domain names per day and
> >that paying for them means nothing? Is there a limit set by any
> >organization? No there aren't. If I am paying for them, I have the right
> >to pay for one a year or 10 a day.
> >
> >There's nothing wrong for using a script to automate a process as long
> >as I am paying for them. eBay has an api. Amazon has an api and
> >thousands of online services provide.
>
> You'r right. You have every right to ask the same questions a spammer
> asks and we have a right to point out that you're likely a spammer.

That's fine. I'll just wait for someone who doesn't assume everyone asking
that question to be a spammer.

Also people who have this naive assumption do not explain why they think
someone asking for a script to automate a domain registration is a spammer.
Why do they think spammers need domain names? Anyone can open an account
with an instant setup hosting company and start spamming. The hosting
company doesn't care how you obtained the name. It doesn't care if the
domain belongs to you and it doesn't even care if the domain name is
registered yet. These companies give you a mail account(s). So what's going
to stop you from sending mail out at the point?

So can someone of these people who suggested I have a sleezy plan explain
to me why they think a spammer needs a domain name and also explain why
they think the method of registering a domain name makes a big difference?
As if registering a domain name manually will stop a spammer but using a
script, well that's a spammers dream. Please explain you logic because I am
intrigued. I want to understand their logic behind their thinking.

John Dalberg

Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
> On 2008-02-18, John Dalberg <nospam@nospam.sss> wrote:
>
> > I don't have a sleezy plan and I said so and if people here are going
> > to ask for my life history and ask .. why.. when.. how many.. where..I
> > am not going to spend time explaining anything. I will just ask the
> > reigstrars themselves.
>
> No one wants, or gives a flying fuck about, your life history. I'm sorry
> you didn't get the answer you wanted. Have a nice life.

Then stop asking many mal-intention questions on why, my intentions, how
many.. ? The logic used to think I am a spammer makes no sense. It doesn't
hold water.



John Dalberg

John Dalberg wrote:
> Tony <nospam@example.com> wrote:
>> How many domains are you planning on squatting?
>>
>> You're saying you want to register 10 domains PER DAY. There is no
>> possible way you can be building websites for that many, so the only
>> conclusion I'm left to reach is that you're either squatting domains or
>> building automated link farms - neither of which is a legitimate
>> business use.
>>
>> You want to automate the registration process. With GoDaddy, at least,
>> the longest part of the process is FINDING the domains - you can spend
>> all kinds of time looking for good domains, put them all into the same
>> checkout process, and then go through checkout once. You're saying that
>> the 2 minutes it takes to go through the checkout process is too much
>> work?
>>
>> "Like I said in my original post, I am paying for the names." - So
>> you're paying. That means nothing.
>>
>> "There's no bad intent." - squatting or link farms is bad intent. I find
>> it extremely difficult to conceive of any legitimate circumstance that
>> would warrant the registration of 10 domain names PER DAY. That's $100
>> per day in expenses. How many domains are you planning on registering?
>> What are you going to do with all these domains?
>>
>> You asked what is suspicious? Well, the fact that you want automated and
>> cheap is suspicious. There are reasons that the registrars want to be
>> sure that REAL PEOPLE are registering domains. People who want to bypass
>> those constraints rarely have legitimate, honest reasons for doing so.
>
> Who the hell are you to decide I don't need 10 domain names per day and
> that paying for them means nothing?

I'm not. I am saying that it's suspicious. It is certainly an unusually
high number of domains to register in such a short period.

> Is there a limit set by any
> organization? No there aren't. If I am paying for them, I have the right to
> pay for one a year or 10 a day.

Is anyone saying you don't? I'm saying that it is suspicious. The most
likely reasons for wanting that many domains is NOT legitimate use. If I
am wrong, then tell me how.

> There's nothing wrong for using a script to automate a process as long as I
> am paying for them.

There IS something wrong with using a script to automate a process that
is intended to be handled by a human, and that has safeguards in place
to insure that the process is NOT being automated. It is inherently
dishonest.

> eBay has an api. Amazon has an api and thousands of
> online services provide.

No comparison.

> You're a turd to take the stance of guilty until proven innocent and
> telling me the longest part is finding a name as if I am registering any
> name or I don't know a thing about the process. It's none of your business
> what I plan to do with the names. Take a hike.

I notice that you're getting defensive and calling names, rather than
doing anything to prove me wrong. I maintain that this backs up my
contention regarding your intents.

Had you done any research before posting here, you would know that most
of us here don't like domain squatters and link farms. Maybe you should
take that hike.

John Dalberg wrote:
> That's fine. I'll just wait for someone who doesn't assume everyone asking
> that question to be a spammer.
>
> Also people who have this naive assumption do not explain why they think
> someone asking for a script to automate a domain registration is a spammer.

I notice that you're very focused on the spam argument, and are not even
trying to address the domain squatting and link farm issues.

Rather than hollering and calling names, do you think you could explain
the legitimate reason you have to bypass the safeguards, to automate a
process that registrars expect to be handled by humans, and to register
that many domains in the first place?

> So can someone of these people who suggested I have a sleezy plan explain
> to me why they think a spammer needs a domain name and also explain why
> they think the method of registering a domain name makes a big difference?
> As if registering a domain name manually will stop a spammer but using a
> script, well that's a spammers dream. Please explain you logic because I am
> intrigued. I want to understand their logic behind their thinking.

It has been explained. It has nothing to do with spam. It has everything
to do with domain squatting and link farming. You, apparently, don't
want to address it.

Tony wrote:

> John Dalberg wrote:
>> That's fine. I'll just wait for someone who doesn't assume everyone asking
>> that question to be a spammer.
> >
>> Also people who have this naive assumption do not explain why they think
>> someone asking for a script to automate a domain registration is a spammer.
>
> I notice that you're very focused on the spam argument, and are not even
> trying to address the domain squatting and link farm issues.
>
> Rather than hollering and calling names, do you think you could explain
> the legitimate reason you have to bypass the safeguards, to automate a
> process that registrars expect to be handled by humans, and to register
> that many domains in the first place?
>
>> So can someone of these people who suggested I have a sleezy plan explain
>> to me why they think a spammer needs a domain name and also explain why
>> they think the method of registering a domain name makes a big difference?
>> As if registering a domain name manually will stop a spammer but using a
>> script, well that's a spammers dream. Please explain you logic because I am
>> intrigued. I want to understand their logic behind their thinking.
>
> It has been explained. It has nothing to do with spam. It has everything
> to do with domain squatting and link farming. You, apparently, don't
> want to address it.

We sharks, as marine predators, know something about food fish; and to me
his continued denials of being spammy (while not addressing your other
two points at all) do indeed appear to be of the red herring species.


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Tony <nospam@example.com> wrote:
> John Dalberg wrote:
> > Tony <nospam@example.com> wrote:
> >> How many domains are you planning on squatting?
> >>
> >> You're saying you want to register 10 domains PER DAY. There is no
> >> possible way you can be building websites for that many, so the only
> >> conclusion I'm left to reach is that you're either squatting domains
> >> or building automated link farms - neither of which is a legitimate
> >> business use.
> >>
> >> You want to automate the registration process. With GoDaddy, at least,
> >> the longest part of the process is FINDING the domains - you can spend
> >> all kinds of time looking for good domains, put them all into the same
> >> checkout process, and then go through checkout once. You're saying
> >> that the 2 minutes it takes to go through the checkout process is too
> >> much work?
> >>
> >> "Like I said in my original post, I am paying for the names." - So
> >> you're paying. That means nothing.
> >>
> >> "There's no bad intent." - squatting or link farms is bad intent. I
> >> find it extremely difficult to conceive of any legitimate circumstance
> >> that would warrant the registration of 10 domain names PER DAY. That's
> >> $100 per day in expenses. How many domains are you planning on
> >> registering? What are you going to do with all these domains?
> >>
> >> You asked what is suspicious? Well, the fact that you want automated
> >> and cheap is suspicious. There are reasons that the registrars want to
> >> be sure that REAL PEOPLE are registering domains. People who want to
> >> bypass those constraints rarely have legitimate, honest reasons for
> >> doing so.

How about automated and expensive, would that make you happy?
I want to host sites and register domain names on behalf of customers. Is
that a good enough reason?

Who said registrars want real people to register domain names? Otherwise
you would see captchas in their order forms being used and I haven't seen
any. Registrars want to sell any many domain names as they can as long as
you pay for them. They are not in the business of determining your
intension of using the domain names. It's not best to their interest to
stop scripts. If you are paying for them, why should they. Otherwise why do
they even offer bulk registrations?


> Had you done any research before posting here, you would know that most
> of us here don't like domain squatters and link farms. Maybe you should
> take that hike.

You and the others' suspicions are based on weak logic. You're the one
making all the wrong assumptions, not me. Just because I want to use a
script, you and some others quickly assume.. "oh he must be a spammer" or
"he must be a domain squatter". If I am a domain squatter, what stops me
from using bulk registration which is offered by some registrars. or I can
hire cheap labor in India or China to do any labor intensive work.

I am refuting your weak claims. Maybe if I did some research, I would
conclude this group has always had the same kind of trolls. They can't
provide real answers and want to think they know something when they
actually don't. The fact is most respectful people who do not know will
keep quiet and the known trolls love to stir trouble, pretend they know
more and just show their ignorance.

I provided a url with the same question from back in 2004. I get the same
useless replies from the same type of group. I will try again in 2012.
I guess I have been trying for 4 years and still trying.

John Dalberg