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Vieux 25/10/2007, 23h59   #76
Ed Jay
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty scribed:

>Ed Jay wrote:
><mess'o'snippage>
>> Beauregard T. Shagnasty scribed:
>>> Oh, I've looked at the code many times. position: absolute works in
>>> IE, it may be position: fixed you were thinking of, which doesn't.
>>> It works fine in my copy of IE6.

>>
>> My issue was with max-width, not position:fixed.

>
>Actually, with a three-column layout, the center column shouldn't
>(normally) be wide enough to bother with it, for most visitors. I
>wouldn't.
>
>> Any thoughts about what colors I should be looking at for my menu
>> buttons?

>
>Can't say. I'm not a 'green' person, normally. I prefer blues, browns,
>yellows... Your current test with the bright cyan/turquoise though, is
>a bit much. How about a dark green background? Something like: #2f4f4f;


Too dark for my taste, but your site gave me some ideas...and at least one
color. :-)
>
>Pick from here: http://www.somacon.com/p142.php


Thanks.
>
>Blues and yellows on this site of mine:
>http://countryrode.com/

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Vieux 26/10/2007, 00h44   #77
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On 2007-10-25, Ed Jay wrote:
> Chris F.A. Johnson scribed:
>>On 2007-10-25, Ed Jay wrote:

....
>>> Yes, I lose the right column, because it's currently fixed width and doesn't
>>> scale.

>>
>> Or, in my case, the menu on the left obscures part of the text in
>> the centre panel.

>
> I only suffer this when I increase the font size a bunch. Like X4.


It does that in my default size, which is about 20px.

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Vieux 26/10/2007, 01h46   #78
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Chris F.A. Johnson scribed:

>On 2007-10-25, Ed Jay wrote:
>> Chris F.A. Johnson scribed:
>>>On 2007-10-25, Ed Jay wrote:

>...
>>>> Yes, I lose the right column, because it's currently fixed width and doesn't
>>>> scale.
>>>
>>> Or, in my case, the menu on the left obscures part of the text in
>>> the centre panel.

>>
>> I only suffer this when I increase the font size a bunch. Like X4.

>
> It does that in my default size, which is about 20px.


I don't think it still does it.
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Vieux 26/10/2007, 02h12   #79
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Ed Jay wrote:
> I don't think it still does it.


But now you have other problems.

http://scottbryce.com/scratch/tas.gif
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Vieux 26/10/2007, 02h17   #80
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On 2007-10-25, Ed Jay wrote:
> Chris F.A. Johnson scribed:
>
>>On 2007-10-25, Ed Jay wrote:
>>> Chris F.A. Johnson scribed:
>>>>On 2007-10-25, Ed Jay wrote:

>>...
>>>>> Yes, I lose the right column, because it's currently fixed width and doesn't
>>>>> scale.
>>>>
>>>> Or, in my case, the menu on the left obscures part of the text in
>>>> the centre panel.
>>>
>>> I only suffer this when I increase the font size a bunch. Like X4.

>>
>> It does that in my default size, which is about 20px.

>
> I don't think it still does it.


No. Instead the menu overflows the blue background that is (I
presume) supposed to contain it:
<http://cfaj.freeshell.org/testing/tas.jpg>

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Vieux 26/10/2007, 02h20   #81
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Ed Jay wrote:

> Too dark for my taste, but your site gave me some ideas...and at least
> one color. :-)


I see that. Looking better. And the menu doesn't cover the content
anymore. Yer gettin' there!

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Vieux 26/10/2007, 03h51   #82
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Chris F.A. Johnson scribed:

>On 2007-10-25, Ed Jay wrote:
>> Chris F.A. Johnson scribed:
>>
>>>On 2007-10-25, Ed Jay wrote:
>>>> Chris F.A. Johnson scribed:
>>>>>On 2007-10-25, Ed Jay wrote:
>>>...
>>>>>> Yes, I lose the right column, because it's currently fixed width and doesn't
>>>>>> scale.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or, in my case, the menu on the left obscures part of the text in
>>>>> the centre panel.
>>>>
>>>> I only suffer this when I increase the font size a bunch. Like X4.
>>>
>>> It does that in my default size, which is about 20px.

>>
>> I don't think it still does it.

>
> No. Instead the menu overflows the blue background that is (I
> presume) supposed to contain it:
> <http://cfaj.freeshell.org/testing/tas.jpg>


Thanks. Now height:100%, not fixed.
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Vieux 26/10/2007, 03h53   #83
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Scott Bryce scribed:

>Ed Jay wrote:
>> I don't think it still does it.

>
>But now you have other problems.
>
>http://scottbryce.com/scratch/tas.gif


That seems to be an old iteration of the page. That said, I've never been
able to make what I see happen. What browser? What conditions?
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Vieux 26/10/2007, 05h10   #84
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Ed Jay wrote:

> That seems to be an old iteration of the page. That said, I've never been
> able to make what I see happen. What browser? What conditions?


A 1920 pixel wide screen, with the browser maximized.

I had posted another image with the same name earlier. Are you looking
at the old image from your cache?
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Vieux 26/10/2007, 05h32   #85
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Scott Bryce scribed:

>Ed Jay wrote:
>
>> That seems to be an old iteration of the page. That said, I've never been
>> able to make what I see happen. What browser? What conditions?

>
>A 1920 pixel wide screen, with the browser maximized.


When I want to see a similar view, I max it to my 1280 X 1024. I've not seen
what you show...until a few hours ago, I had it max-width ed to 1024.
>
>I had posted another image with the same name earlier. Are you looking
>at the old image from your cache?


No. I can tell it's an old iteration, because of where the login button is.
It's been at the bottom of the menu for a day. Before that, I moved it to
the right column where you show it. It hasn't been where your pic shows it
for two days.
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Vieux 26/10/2007, 06h20   #86
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Ed Jay wrote:

> No. I can tell it's an old iteration, because of where the login button is.
> It's been at the bottom of the menu for a day. Before that, I moved it to
> the right column where you show it. It hasn't been where your pic shows it
> for two days.


I still see the same thing. FireFox. 1920 pixel wide screen with the
browser maximized. It looks the same way in Opera, Netscape and IE.

Try this link to make sure you are seeing the correct image:

http://scottbryce.com/scratch/tas_2.gif

And take note that I am replying to your post. This is what I am seeing
AFTER you made your post.
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Vieux 26/10/2007, 16h44   #87
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Scott Bryce scribed:

>Ed Jay wrote:
>
>> No. I can tell it's an old iteration, because of where the login button is.
>> It's been at the bottom of the menu for a day. Before that, I moved it to
>> the right column where you show it. It hasn't been where your pic shows it
>> for two days.

>
>I still see the same thing. FireFox. 1920 pixel wide screen with the
>browser maximized. It looks the same way in Opera, Netscape and IE.
>
>Try this link to make sure you are seeing the correct image:
>
>http://scottbryce.com/scratch/tas_2.gif
>
>And take note that I am replying to your post. This is what I am seeing
>AFTER you made your post.


There's something strange going on with your cache, perhaps? I changed the
content late yesterday, but your gif doesn't reflect the changes. Also, as I
mentioned, the login button has been the last menu entry for more than a
day.

When I maximize FF, IE or Opera to my 1280 pixel wide screen, I see exactly
what I want to see...the page is fixed width to 1024 pixels wide, everything
is properly aligned.
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Vieux 26/10/2007, 17h40   #88
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Ed Jay wrote:

> There's something strange going on with your cache, perhaps?


That couldn't be. It was the first time I viewed that page in Opera, NS
or IE. I didn't have that page cached in those browsers. I also
re-loaded the page in FF to be sure I go the latest. Could I be going to
the wrong URL?
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Vieux 26/10/2007, 17h43   #89
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Scott Bryce wrote:
> Could I be going to the wrong URL?


Wrong URL. I went back to an earlier post and found another URL where
you have posted work in progress.
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Vieux 26/10/2007, 18h08   #90
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Scott Bryce scribed:

>Ed Jay wrote:
>
>> There's something strange going on with your cache, perhaps?

>
>That couldn't be. It was the first time I viewed that page in Opera, NS
>or IE. I didn't have that page cached in those browsers. I also
>re-loaded the page in FF to be sure I go the latest. Could I be going to
>the wrong URL?


That's it. You've been going to the old page. Sorry. The test page is found
at <http://www.breastthermographyevaluation.com/indexNew.html>
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Vieux 26/10/2007, 18h24   #91
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Ed Jay wrote:
> Scott Bryce scribed:
>
>> Ed Jay wrote:
>>
>>> There's something strange going on with your cache, perhaps?

>>
>> That couldn't be. It was the first time I viewed that page in Opera,
>> NS or IE. I didn't have that page cached in those browsers. I also
>> re-loaded the page in FF to be sure I go the latest. Could I be
>> going to the wrong URL?

>
> That's it. You've been going to the old page. Sorry. The test page is
> found at <http://www.breastthermographyevaluation.com/indexNew.html>


line 66 column 1 - Warning: <div> unexpected or duplicate quote mark
line 66 column 1 - Warning: <div> attribute name "670px":" (value="66%"") is
invalid
line 66 column 1 - Warning: <div> attribute with missing trailing quote mark
line 27 column 31 - Warning: <img> attribute "width" has invalid value
"1250px"


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Vieux 26/10/2007, 23h34   #92
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Ed Jay wrote:
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> Look at the wonderful new colors. In a 1024 wide browser window.
> http://www.breastthermographyevaluat.../indexNew.html.


It's sloppy.

http://www.bergamotus.ws/screenshots...evaluation.png

Don't use kludges like &nbsp; to format or align text. Learn how to use
margin and padding properly! See also
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/

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Vieux 26/10/2007, 23h39   #93
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> Ed Jay wrote:
>
>> There's a huge difference in the tasks we're each performing.

>
> Not as far as content is concerned.


Hey, if he wants to make unnecessary work for himself, who are we to
argue? Personally, I prefer less work (so there's more time for play),
but to each his own.

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