I notice Google Groups has become far more unreliable and buggy in the
last few months. There is too much spam in most groups for one thing.
Profiles often are not updated with a posters latest post. Searching
brings up many duplicate results which it would not do before.
Sometimes google groups is entirely down for many hours. I get the
impression folks at Google don't care too much about it anymore, what
do you think.

Duke of Hazard wrote:

> Sometimes google groups is entirely down for many hours

YAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!1!!

Get a real newsreader and an NNTP service, then filter out GG.

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Per Duke of Hazard:
>Sometimes google groups is entirely down for many hours. I get the
>impression folks at Google don't care too much about it anymore, what
>do you think.

I'll use Google Groups for a quick post when I run into some
technical problem at work - hoping to find some replies when I
get home or before work the next day.

Having said that... I find a web-based interface *really*
cumbersome for reading NGs - and can't imagine relying on Google
Groups exclusively.

I've use Forete's "Agent" for both eMail and NGs practically
since it first came out and am a happy camper. Also, it seems
to me like Outlook does NGs too. If server access were an issue
and I couldn't afford $12.00 per year for Individual.net - and,
I'd try some of the many freebie NG servers - after, of course,
verifying that my provider didn't have NG servers (Verizon does,
for one...)
--
PeteCresswell

(PeteCresswell) wrote:
> Per Duke of Hazard:
>>Sometimes google groups is entirely down for many hours. I get the
>>impression folks at Google don't care too much about it anymore, what
>>do you think.
>
> I'll use Google Groups for a quick post when I run into some
> technical problem at work - hoping to find some replies when I
> get home or before work the next day.
>
> Having said that... I find a web-based interface *really*
> cumbersome for reading NGs - and can't imagine relying on Google
> Groups exclusively.
>
> I've use Forete's "Agent" for both eMail and NGs practically
> since it first came out and am a happy camper. Also, it seems
> to me like Outlook does NGs too. If server access were an issue

No, but Outlook Express does.

> and I couldn't afford $12.00 per year for Individual.net - and,
> I'd try some of the many freebie NG servers - after, of course,
> verifying that my provider didn't have NG servers (Verizon does,
> for one...)

"NG"? "Servers"? You're talking to a Google Groper, there, Pete. Don't
use such big words.

--
Blinky RLU 297263
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project:
http://improve-usenet.org <----------- New Site Aug 28

On Sep 7, 12:21 am, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
<a.nony.m...@example.invalid> wrote:
> Duke of Hazard wrote:
> > Sometimes google groups is entirely down for many hours
>
> YAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!1!!
>
> Get a real newsreader and an NNTP service, then filter out GG.
>
> --
> -bts
> -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Like what? At least a 3rd of the traffic comes from GG, but there's no
alternative, other than other GG wannabes. Many of us are stuck behind
corporate firewalls that do not open NNTP ports during the day

SpaceGirl wrote:

> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> Duke of Hazard wrote:
>>> Sometimes google groups is entirely down for many hours
>>
>> YAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!1!!
>>
>> Get a real newsreader and an NNTP service, then filter out GG.
>>
>> -- [I'll snip this sig for you, Spacey]
>
> Like what? At least a 3rd of the traffic comes from GG, but there's no
> alternative, other than other GG wannabes. Many of us are stuck
> behind corporate firewalls that do not open NNTP ports during the day
>

"I'll take proxies for $400, Alex."

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Per Blinky the Shark:
>"NG"? "Servers"? You're talking to a Google Groper, there, Pete. Don't
>use such big words.

Damn.... gullible fool that I am, you almost got me going.... -)
--
PeteCresswell

On Sep 7, 12:38 pm, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
<a.nony.m...@example.invalid> wrote:
> SpaceGirl wrote:
> > "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
> >> Duke of Hazard wrote:
> >>> Sometimes google groups is entirely down for many hours
>
> >> YAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!1!!
>
> >> Get a real newsreader and an NNTP service, then filter out GG.
>
> >> -- [I'll snip this sig for you, Spacey]
>
> > Like what? At least a 3rd of the traffic comes from GG, but there's no
> > alternative, other than other GG wannabes. Many of us are stuck
> > behind corporate firewalls that do not open NNTP ports during the day
> >
>
> "I'll take proxies for $400, Alex."
>
> --
> -bts
> -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

We have to access the Internet through our internal proxy, if I try
use a different proxy I can't get out of the firewall

SpaceGirl wrote:

> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> "I'll take proxies for $400, Alex."
>>
>> -- <-- this is a signature block
>> -bts <--
>> -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck <--
>
> We have to access the Internet through our internal proxy, if I try
> use a different proxy I can't get out of the firewall

Subscribe to a dial-up service... ?

BTW, doesn't GG allow you to manually snip signature blocks, such as
that above which I have left in for demonstration?

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

On Sep 7, 1:59 pm, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
<a.nony.m...@example.invalid> wrote:
> SpaceGirl wrote:
> > "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
> >> "I'll take proxies for $400, Alex."
>
> >> -- <-- this is a signature block
> >> -bts <--
> >> -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck <--
>
> > We have to access the Internet through our internal proxy, if I try
> > use a different proxy I can't get out of the firewall
>
> Subscribe to a dial-up service... ?
>
> BTW, doesn't GG allow you to manually snip signature blocks, such as
> that above which I have left in for demonstration?

Because... who cares? Yeah so you have to skip over a few extra lines,
but big deal. People are WAY to precious on Usenet.

SpaceGirl wrote:

> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> BTW, doesn't GG allow you to manually snip signature blocks, such as
>> that above which I have left in for demonstration?
>
> Because... who cares? Yeah so you have to skip over a few extra
> lines, but big deal. People are WAY to precious on Usenet.

I'm sorry you don't care to take two extra seconds to create an
easier-to-read post.

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

SpaceGirl wrote:
> On Sep 7, 1:59 pm, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
> <a.nony.m...@example.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> BTW, doesn't GG allow you to manually snip signature blocks, such as
>> that above which I have left in for demonstration?
>
> Because... who cares? Yeah so you have to skip over a few extra lines,
> but big deal. People are WAY to precious on Usenet.

The person who cares is the person who wants their posts to be read.

Mark
--
http://mark.goodge.co.uk

And lo, SpaceGirl didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> SpaceGirl wrote:
>>> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>>>
>>>> "I'll take proxies for $400, Alex."
>>>>
>>>> -- <-- this is a signature block
>>>> -bts <--
>>>> -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck <--
>>>
>>> We have to access the Internet through our internal proxy, if I try
>>> use a different proxy I can't get out of the firewall
>>
>> Subscribe to a dial-up service... ?
>>
>> BTW, doesn't GG allow you to manually snip signature blocks, such as
>> that above which I have left in for demonstration?
>
> Because... who cares? Yeah so you have to skip over a few extra lines,
> but big deal. People are WAY to precious on Usenet.

Indeed, who cares? Not me. I ain't precious. I bin GG and I don't care
enough to read most of your posts. I mean, why should we care if *you*
don't?

Nothing personal.

Grey

--
The technical axiom that nothing is impossible sinisterly implies the
pitfall corollary that nothing is ridiculous.
- http://www.greywyvern.com/orca#search - Orca Search: Full-featured
spider and site-search engine

And lo, Beauregard T. Shagnasty didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:

> SpaceGirl wrote:
>
>> We have to access the Internet through our internal proxy, if I try
>> use a different proxy I can't get out of the firewall
>
> Subscribe to a dial-up service... ?

A meta-comment here... My own workplace doesn't block the NNTP port,
despite the internal proxy service. Yet there was a time I could have
justified allowing the access, had it been blocked, due almost solely to
the high signal to noise ratio of work-tech-related ful posts in AWW.

These days I suspect, mostly due to GG, that particular justification
would be a great deal more tenuous.

Still, there is a lot of useful information on Usenet. You [SpaceGirl]
should really pitch opening the port to your boss as a work-related
resource. It can't hurt to ask, can it? I mean, you're already *at* work
using GG, so you'd actually be streamlining your access by using a real
client.

Grey

--
The technical axiom that nothing is impossible sinisterly implies the
pitfall corollary that nothing is ridiculous.
- http://www.greywyvern.com/orca#search - Orca Search: Full-featured
spider and site-search engine

Duke of Hazard wrote on 9/6/2007 6:45 PM:
> I notice Google Groups has become far more unreliable and buggy in the
> last few months. There is too much spam in most groups for one thing.
> Profiles often are not updated with a posters latest post. Searching
> brings up many duplicate results which it would not do before.
> Sometimes google groups is entirely down for many hours. I get the
> impression folks at Google don't care too much about it anymore, what
> do you think.
>

Google as a whole has been going down hill for a
long time. They are spreading themselves too thin,
and aren't keeping what they already have, going right.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne@WayneSallee.com

Wayne Sallee wrote:
> Duke of Hazard wrote on 9/6/2007 6:45 PM:
>> I notice Google Groups has become far more unreliable and buggy in the
>> last few months. There is too much spam in most groups for one thing.
>> Profiles often are not updated with a posters latest post. Searching
>> brings up many duplicate results which it would not do before.
>> Sometimes google groups is entirely down for many hours. I get the
>> impression folks at Google don't care too much about it anymore, what
>> do you think.
>
> Google as a whole has been going down hill for a
> long time. They are spreading themselves too thin,
> and aren't keeping what they already have, going right.

GG being "entirely down for many hours" is a feature, not a bug.

--
Blinky RLU 297263
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project:
http://improve-usenet.org <----------- New Site Aug 28