On Aug 28, 11:25 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
> eneel...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I'm beginning to make a career change from nursing to web technology.
> > I'm attempting to become an associate level Certified Internet
> > Webmaster. Is this the right path to start out? Erik
>
> Who's going to recognize a "Certified Internet Webmaster"? The title is
> worthless unless it is widely recognized.
>
> Better is to put together a good portfolio (which you'll need anyway)
> and market yourself.
>
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> Jerry Stuckle
> JDS Computer Training Corp.
> jstuck...@attglobal.net
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Thanks, I'm just a novice and this certification is at least within my
grasp within the next 3-4 months. I do intend to put together a
portfolio of personal and business websites eventually.

On Aug 29, 2:31 am, John Hosking <J...@DELETE.Hosking.name.INVALID>
wrote:
> eneel...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I'm beginning to make a career change from nursing to web technology.
> > I'm attempting to become an associate level Certified Internet
> > Webmaster. Is this the right path to start out?
>
> Cool! I'm now thinking of a career change from web technology to
> nursing. I figure I can learn the Latin I need from an online tutorial
> somewhere (I hear IpsoDog has a good one) and the rest of the job I'll
> probably pick up pretty quickly because I've been to hospitals and
> doctors' offices before. Besides, I've seen nurses on TV and it seems
> pretty easy. I'll think I'll go ahead and treat my first patient today
> or tomorrow (and maybe post about the results in alt.nursing.critique,
> or in c.i.w.a.nursing if I get stuck). And there's always the definitive
> reference online at the N3C...
>
> ;-)
>
> --
> John
> Pondering the Web address of the Nimble Nursing Nimrod Consortium

I'm enrolled in a local university. I know it's going to take several
years to accomplish anything significant.

On Aug 29, 4:46 am, SpaceGirl <nothespacegirls...@subhuman.net> wrote:
> On Aug 29, 4:12 am, eneel...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > I'm beginning to make a career change from nursing to web technology.
> > I'm attempting to become an associate level Certified Internet
> > Webmaster. Is this the right path to start out? Erik
>
> Okay... so how fast can you cram 15 years of experience?
>
> Not to discourage, but you're talking complicated stuff and a lot that
> can go wrong. Now if you are hosting a client, they're not going to
> wait around while you figure out how to fix something. Just like being
> a nurse: you need to know your stuff before you're allowed anywhere
> near a patient.
>
> Best way to learn is to practice, and play with the technology. There
> are no certificates that can achieve this! Get yourself a web server,
> setup a couple of sites... play! You'll learn far more that way.
>
> BTW... did you really mean Web Master? As in... hosting... servers...
> networks... software... Web Designers make web sites, Web Developers
> write programs for the WWW and Web Masters run & manage platforms for
> Web Developers and Web Designers to publish on.
>
> xM

Thanks, I have been learning on my own as well at the university level
starting this year.

On Aug 29, 5:43 am, Andy Dingley <ding...@codesmiths.com> wrote:
> On 29 Aug, 04:12, eneel...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > I'm beginning to make a career change from nursing to web technology.
> > I'm attempting to become an associate level Certified Internet
> > Webmaster. Is this the right path to start out? Erik
>
> There are just no good qualifications in "web stuff". The few that are
> good (Cisco networking, Sun Certified Java) are pretty high-end.
>
> CIW isn't a good qualification, but it's not a really bad one. It's
> also the only one that has _any_ (albeit little) brand recognition by
> employers. So if you don't have to pay to get it, and you learn some
> other things too, then it won't actually hurt you. However it's far
> from a path to instant riches. It won't teach you much either.
>
> M$oft certification is a joke.
>
> The over-riding "qualification" for web designers is a portfolio of
> previous work. You _must_ have this. out your favourite charity
> or something.
>
> If you want to learn things, these newsgroups (esp. c.i.w.a.h) are one
> of the few accurate resources around. There are any number of "web
> tutorials" around, but most are badly inaccurte. As to books, then the
> O'Reilly "Head First" series (Head First HTML with CSS & XHTML) is
> about the only trustworthy one worth spending money on, followed by
> Lie & Bos' "Cascading Style Sheets".

Great advice. This will be ful for me. Thanks.

On Aug 29, 8:31 am, Karl Groves <k...@NOSPAMkarlcore.com> wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote innews:j4ednQHz96_veknbnZ2dnUVZ_vqpnZ2d@comcast.co m:
>
> > eneel...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> I'm beginning to make a career change from nursing to web technology.
> >> I'm attempting to become an associate level Certified Internet
> >> Webmaster. Is this the right path to start out? Erik
>
> > Who's going to recognize a "Certified Internet Webmaster"? The title
> > is worthless unless it is widely recognized.
>
> As someone who holds the Master CIW certification I can say: Jerry's
> right. Actually having the certification as meant nothing, careerwise,
> as evidenced by the fact that whenever it did come up in a job
> interview, I had to explain what it was. Despite what the CIW people
> say about it being "the largest vendor-neutral certification", it means
> nothing unless people recognize it as widely as say, MCSD or RHCP, etc.
>
> That being said, I would still recommend someone new work their way up
> through the CIW certifications as a means toward learning and getting
> independent verification that you've learned this stuff.
>
> Associate CIW is basically the same as the i-Net+ from CompTia and
> contains a lot of very important background on the networking &
> protocols of the web.
>
> CIW Designer is a more hands-on kind of thing, learning actual
> production of sites. It covers a lot of really basic stuff and, for me,
> was actually a lot easier than the Associate CIW test.
>
> Master CIW Designer is more of the same, but covers E-Commerce as well.
> There's some playing around with databases and server-side programming,
> but not a lot.
>
> I had planned on doing all the CIW certs but by the time I got the
> Master CIW I pretty much decided it was all worthless in terms of
> increasing my employment prospects so I decided not to waste my time.
>
> > Better is to put together a good portfolio (which you'll need anyway)
> > and market yourself.
>
> Definitely. In the web world, starting out is hard and the only way to
> get anywhere is to have a portfolio of examples which show your work.
>
> After a while, work will come from word-of-mouth, and none of those
> people will care about a CIW cert, either.
>
> --
> Karl Groveshttp://www.8pistons.comhttp://www.thehotrodclassifieds.comhttp://www.grayscalecms.comhttp://www.karlcore.com

Thank you.

On Aug 29, 2:04 pm, "Alex" <tuchasoffentisch@_NO_SPAM_gmail.com>
wrote:
> <eneel...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1188357156.259307.116600@d55g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...> I'm beginning to make a career change from nursing to web technology.
> > I'm attempting to become an associate level Certified Internet
> > Webmaster. Is this the right path to start out? Erik
>
> As others have pointed out, you need experience and a portfolio more than
> certification.
> But why not build on your medical background, and partner with some
> designers and software folks to offer specialized website and intranet
> development services to physician groups, medical offices, small medical
> equipment companies, etc.?
> That would differentiate you, provide real value to potential customers, and
> make you productive immediately while you learn coding, design, etc.
>
> Alex

yes, I do intend to use my nursing experience.