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Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:49:03 +0100, Brendan Gillatt
> <brendanREMOVETHIS@brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.u k> wrote:
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>> Brendan Gillatt wrote:
>>> Okay, I'll post some tomorrow. By the way, a portal is probably the
>>> _worst_ design in the history of all time. Essentially all you're doing
>>> is reducing the amount of space available to the user with no benefit.
>
> Actually, you retard, the point of the design is to cater to the
> lowest mainstream resolution while still allowing for a centered
> position on higher resolutions. So you're not really reducing the
> amount of space you have. An alternative design would include two
> base resolutions, say 800x600 and 1024x768+. Another reason why it's
> a good design is that the extra space can be used for ad banners and
> other site tools...not that you would have any fuckin clue about that,
> your sites aren't making you any money. LOL
>
>>> It's not as if a 15" monitor is big enough as it is!
>>>
>> Alrighty, have a look at
>> http://brendangillatt.co.uk/code/portal/
>> Window size small enough for you? I could change two lines of CSS and
>> make it even smaller if you like.
>>
>> How big is that entire page? 716 Bytes. How big would the same thing be
>> in Javascript / Flash? Probably 100 KBytes upwards.
>
> *snicker*
>
> You retard! That won't even work on IE 5 on teh Mac!

And how does that have a higher percentage of users than those which
cannot use flash?

> Not to mention:
> http://www.backwater-productions.net...m/URAMORON.swf
>
> LOL, you can achieve the same effect in Flash with NO HTML or CSS code
> and it's ONLY 280 bytes...that's a nearly FORTY PERCENT reduction in
> size from yer idiot bloat code!

So, sorry - I did leave the code un-optimised. By changing the names to
single characters and removing whitespace I'd probalby get close

> 100 Kilobytes, what the fuck are you
> thinkin, Sunshine? All you stupid ass gawd damn poser, wannabe,
> college flunkie, halfass retards are all alike...runnin the fuck at
> the mouth about shit you don't know about and then getting BITCH
> SLAPPED for it.

- --
Brendan Gillatt
brendan {at} brendangillatt {dot} co {dot} uk
http://www.brendangillatt.co.uk
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:35:27 +0100, Brendan Gillatt
<brendanREMOVETHIS@brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.u k> wrote:

>> *snicker*
>>
>> You retard! That won't even work on IE 5 on teh Mac!

>And how does that have a higher percentage of users than those which
>cannot use flash?

Um, retard, Flash works just peachy on IE 5 on teh Mac...maybe not
Flash 9, but you can go as low as Flash 4...actually maybe even lower,
but I haven't personally tested it so I won't say for certain. Unlike
you, I don't run the fuck at the mouth about shit I don't know about.

Since the percentage of IE5 Mac users who can view your rendition
is...ZERO...obviously the Flash method is superior. Again though, yer
not so good with the numbers, what with how you think users are
somehow magically spacing their access apart on yer server to achieve
a nice median hit rate.

>> Not to mention:
>> http://www.backwater-productions.net...m/URAMORON.swf
>>
>> LOL, you can achieve the same effect in Flash with NO HTML or CSS code
>> and it's ONLY 280 bytes...that's a nearly FORTY PERCENT reduction in
>> size from yer idiot bloat code!

>So, sorry - I did leave the code un-optimised. By changing the names to
>single characters and removing whitespace I'd probalby get close

This is the part where you won't actually do it because you know
you're full of shit. Removing all the white space in "your" code (and
by "your" I mean the guy you ripped it off of) wouldn't really have
any significant impact at all on the overall size.

Further, your stupid ass actually LIED about the size of your
rendition. A quick copy and paste of yer source code shows the
overall size of your rendition to be 1.47 Kilobytes. If I had tried
to cheat like you and went ONLY with the part that's achieving the
portal design, then my rendition would only be 94 bytes, nearly EIGHT
HUNDRED PERCENT smaller than "your" bloat code.

You lose, Fuckface.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:32:22 +0100, Brendan Gillatt
<brendanREMOVETHIS@brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.u k> wrote:

>>> *snicker*
>>>
>>> You retard! That won't even work on IE 5 on teh Mac!
>>>
>>> Not to mention:
>>> http://www.backwater-productions.net...m/URAMORON.swf
>>>
>>> LOL, you can achieve the same effect in Flash with NO HTML or CSS code
>>> and it's ONLY 280 bytes...that's a nearly FORTY PERCENT reduction in
>>> size from yer idiot bloat code! 100 Kilobytes, what the fuck are you
>>> thinkin, Sunshine? All you stupid ass gawd damn poser, wannabe,
>>> college flunkie, halfass retards are all alike...runnin the fuck at
>>> the mouth about shit you don't know about and then getting BITCH
>>> SLAPPED for it.

>> Oh wait, sorry, my bad. Did I say 280 bytes? Silly me, using default
>> object names. *alters object names* There we go, now it's 270 bytes!
>> ^_^
>>
>> One should probably also mention the fact that Flash allows for
>> custom, embedded font types and proper font anti-aliasing, both of
>> which HTML is wholly incapable of achieving.

>Sure it is - I know for a fact it can do so on a Solaris graphics
>workstation. Can flash do that? Ummmm.....

You don't have any fuckin cl00 as to what you're babbling about, do
you? Tell us, how ~exactly~ is it that your HTML code is magically
embedding fonts into itself? Show us the code, Goober! LOL, this
should be good for a laugh or six.

And as for the anti-aliasing...um, that has nothing to do with the
operating system directly so much as it has to deal with the browser
and no browser I'm aware of has proper font-antialiasing (mostly cause
it's seen as being too resource heavy, so they simply don't support
it). In Flash you have the option to turn on and off anti-aliasing
not only on the Flash file as a whole, but individual objects within
the Flash construct can be dynamically set for anti-aliasing. It
should be noted though that I haven't checked on IE7, so it's possible
that, that browser has support. But again, the problem there is
inconsistency and cross-incompatibility. With Flash, the way it
looks/works on one set will be exactly the way it looks/works on
another setup, even under a different OS and browser. And, once
again, Flash is smaller.

Any site you can build in HTML I can rebuild in Flash...smaller,
faster, more efficient and with a greater level of cross
compatibility.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 12:53:39 -0700, Onideus Mad Hatter
<usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:35:27 +0100, Brendan Gillatt
><brendanREMOVETHIS@brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.uk > wrote:
>
>>> *snicker*
>>>
>>> You retard! That won't even work on IE 5 on teh Mac!
>
>>And how does that have a higher percentage of users than those which
>>cannot use flash?
>
>Um, retard, Flash works just peachy on IE 5 on teh Mac...maybe not
>Flash 9, but you can go as low as Flash 4...actually maybe even lower,
>but I haven't personally tested it so I won't say for certain. Unlike
>you, I don't run the fuck at the mouth about shit I don't know about.
>
>Since the percentage of IE5 Mac users who can view your rendition
>is...ZERO...obviously the Flash method is superior. Again though, yer
>not so good with the numbers, what with how you think users are
>somehow magically spacing their access apart on yer server to achieve
>a nice median hit rate.
>
>>> Not to mention:
>>> http://www.backwater-productions.net...m/URAMORON.swf
>>>
>>> LOL, you can achieve the same effect in Flash with NO HTML or CSS code
>>> and it's ONLY 280 bytes...that's a nearly FORTY PERCENT reduction in
>>> size from yer idiot bloat code!
>
>>So, sorry - I did leave the code un-optimised. By changing the names to
>>single characters and removing whitespace I'd probalby get close
>
>This is the part where you won't actually do it because you know
>you're full of shit. Removing all the white space in "your" code (and
>by "your" I mean the guy you ripped it off of) wouldn't really have
>any significant impact at all on the overall size.

Just to prove how stupid you are, I went ahead and removed all the
white space from "your" code. I also removed just about every
possible bit of extraneous code and this is the best that can be
achieved:
http://www.backwater-productions.net...rm/protal.html

654 Bytes, still about twice the size of mine, and of course that's
losing the background color formatting, no text formatting, removing
the xmlns attribute (which also makes it fail validation) and having
no title tag. I suppose if we don't bother at all with validation we
can shave off maybe another 50 Bytes, but then it's still twice the
size of my rendition. LOL, you fail again, Fuckface! ^_^

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

"Onideus Mad Hatter" <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
news:aeqkg3ln6all7sc70j6pga6rclqeq3ctlc@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:31:55 -0500, "Steve" <no.one@example.com> wrote:
>
>>> Actually, you retard, the point of the design is to cater to the
>>> lowest mainstream resolution while still allowing for a centered
>>> position on higher resolutions. So you're not really reducing the
>>> amount of space you have. An alternative design would include two
>>> base resolutions, say 800x600 and 1024x768+. Another reason why it's
>>> a good design is that the extra space can be used for ad banners and
>>> other site tools...not that you would have any fuckin clue about that,
>>> your sites aren't making you any money. LOL
>
>>wow.
>
> Yeah, you and yer lil online boyfriend sure got bitch slapped, huh?
> And hell, I haven't even replied to all that other idiocy you posted
> yet. LOL, you would think after awhile you morons would figure it out
> that I actually ENJOY ripping you apart at every other post. ^_^
>
>>so you justify one bad design by saying *other* bad design strategies
>>warrant it.
>
> Uh, excuse me, retard, but the only "bad" thing you morons were able
> to say about the design (it leaves extra space), was soundly ripped
> apart.

really? where? how?

> I mean in either design form (unless you're taking about a perfect
> liquid form...

<read, OMH made up jargon that only means something to OMH>

> and you're not, because I'm the only one who has sites
> like that),

<which explains why, it only applies to OMH>

apparently, based on your client *demand*...no one WANTS 'perfect liquid'
shit.

> in either form you have to settle on a base resolution
> (you could go with more than one), but the bottom line is that no
> matter how many base resolutions you choose there will ALWAYS be some
> resolutions in which the resolution of the user's monitor exceeds the
> intended display size of the content. In a portal form, when that
> happens, the content will stay centered in the users view, in a non
> portal form it'll default into the upper left hand corner, leaving
> skewed content.
>
> The only REAL argument against the form (which is now out dated),

yes, leave yourself a means to backpeddle.

> and
> it's no surprise that neither of you two idiots has figured it out, is
> the comparison of a portal form to a centered form. In the later the
> content will stay centered and will default to the top of the page.
> Some will say this is better in that most users view the top of the
> screen first when going to a site and then next look to the center.
> This is why ad banners are most often at the top of the page. But
> then, that's part of the point. Because ad banners are most often at
> the top of the page, that OLD study no longer holds as much relevancy.
> People now often DO NOT look first at the top of the page because most
> people expect to see ad banners at the top of the page, thus, NOW, the
> most important part of the screen, is the middle (also why those
> centered Flash ad banner pop ups are becoming so popular).
>
>>ROFLMAO
>>
>>
>>now, please do go on and show that you can do what gillet just did...using
>>less resources and unnecessarily pigeon-holing the end-user into a
>>particular[ly stupid] technology. hmmmmm, c'mon cupcake.
>
> Hey, retard, in case it skipped you (of course it did, why am I
> asking), I already proved that the concept could be achieved in Flash
> with LESS size, GREATER cross compatibility (mine will even work on IE
> 5 on teh Mac) and with the added benefits of custom, embedded fonts
> and proper font anti-aliasing:
> http://www.backwater-productions.net...m/URAMORON.swf
>
> ...yeah, you get to look stupid now. Have fun with that! ^_^

'proved the concept'...no, you MENTIONED the concept. proof is vastly
lacking. IE...great! now run it in tbird, ff, netscape, etc...then run it on
a mips, spark, etc.. oh wait, you CAN'T. lol. 'greater cross
compatibility'...tis to laugh.

On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:23:24 -0500, "Steve" <no.one@example.com> wrote:

>> Uh, excuse me, retard, but the only "bad" thing you morons were able
>> to say about the design (it leaves extra space), was soundly ripped
>> apart.

>really? where? how?

Sorry, but I don't repeat myself for the benefit of retards. Google
is your friend (your only one), go and molest it for , Goober.

>> I mean in either design form (unless you're taking about a perfect
>> liquid form...

><read, OMH made up jargon that only means something to OMH>

Bitch slappin you again:
http://michelf.com/weblog/2005/liquid-image/

LOL, at this rate yer face is gonna wind up so red you'll be able to
start claiming Native American ancestry.

>> and you're not, because I'm the only one who has sites
>> like that),

><which explains why, it only applies to OMH>

Oh other people have done it...in Flash. I'm the only one whose ever
achieved it using CSS/javascript/PHP.

>apparently, based on your client *demand*...no one WANTS 'perfect liquid'
>shit.

Most people don't know what it is and don't have the capacity to think
outside of their own resolution, that doesn't mean it's not important
though. Eventually, all sites will be perfect liquid, especially as
Flash becomes more and more set in stone as the defacto user front end
development platform. It's basically one of those things that you do
that clients don't need to know about. It's like if yer buyin a new
house, you don't necesarily sit there askin about what brand/type of
insulation they used, you just assume that going with someone
reputable means that they won't use the cheapest fuckin shit
available. With websites it's a little easier since one can see live,
working examples of the sites you've got. In your case that would be
NONE, so obviously you would not be the person to trust to make a web
site. And your lil boyfriend Brendan wouldn't be a good choice either
since all his sites look like some piece of shit presoviet web design.

>> in either form you have to settle on a base resolution
>> (you could go with more than one), but the bottom line is that no
>> matter how many base resolutions you choose there will ALWAYS be some
>> resolutions in which the resolution of the user's monitor exceeds the
>> intended display size of the content. In a portal form, when that
>> happens, the content will stay centered in the users view, in a non
>> portal form it'll default into the upper left hand corner, leaving
>> skewed content.
>>
>> The only REAL argument against the form (which is now out dated),

>yes, leave yourself a means to backpeddle.

Yes, be a mouthy little snit about your lack of an argument. Don't
blame me for having to argue for you, Dribbles. If you don't like it,
get the fuck off yer stupidity and do it yer damn self.

>> and
>> it's no surprise that neither of you two idiots has figured it out, is
>> the comparison of a portal form to a centered form. In the later the
>> content will stay centered and will default to the top of the page.
>> Some will say this is better in that most users view the top of the
>> screen first when going to a site and then next look to the center.
>> This is why ad banners are most often at the top of the page. But
>> then, that's part of the point. Because ad banners are most often at
>> the top of the page, that OLD study no longer holds as much relevancy.
>> People now often DO NOT look first at the top of the page because most
>> people expect to see ad banners at the top of the page, thus, NOW, the
>> most important part of the screen, is the middle (also why those
>> centered Flash ad banner pop ups are becoming so popular).
>>
>>>ROFLMAO
>>>
>>>
>>>now, please do go on and show that you can do what gillet just did...using
>>>less resources and unnecessarily pigeon-holing the end-user into a
>>>particular[ly stupid] technology. hmmmmm, c'mon cupcake.
>>
>> Hey, retard, in case it skipped you (of course it did, why am I
>> asking), I already proved that the concept could be achieved in Flash
>> with LESS size, GREATER cross compatibility (mine will even work on IE
>> 5 on teh Mac) and with the added benefits of custom, embedded fonts
>> and proper font anti-aliasing:
>> http://www.backwater-productions.net...m/URAMORON.swf
>>
>> ...yeah, you get to look stupid now. Have fun with that! ^_^

>'proved the concept'...no, you MENTIONED the concept. proof is vastly
>la<COCK SLAP>

I didn't mention it you fuckwit, I linked right to a working model:
http://www.backwater-productions.net...m/URAMORON.swf

It's done in Flash 6, so anything that works with Flash 6 (which is
essentially everything but Lynx) will work with it. And no, you can't
use Lynx as your backpedal since Brendan's ripped off CSS code won't
render in Lynx (nor will render in IE 5 on the Mac and various others
that will work with Flash 6).

You lose, Fuckface, now bitch about it...and do a REAL shit job of it
too. `, )

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

"Onideus Mad Hatter" <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
news:gm4lg39cq6l42jj20gikkdumpsrhcs333f@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:23:24 -0500, "Steve" <no.one@example.com> wrote:
>
>>> Uh, excuse me, retard, but the only "bad" thing you morons were able
>>> to say about the design (it leaves extra space), was soundly ripped
>>> apart.
>
>>really? where? how?
>
> Sorry, but I don't repeat mysel<COCK SLAP>

then post the referring message id. as it is, there is no such proof any
this thread.

try again, pumk'n

>>> I mean in either design form (unless you're taking about a perfect
>>> liquid form...
>
>><read, OMH made up jargon that only means something to OMH>
>
> Bit<COCK SLAP>

yeah...bloat code that produces very little and is only applicable to
certain os' running on specific chipsets.

so, 'perfect liquid' (so i get your jargon correct) from
back-oriface-productions (aka shit) is actually diarhea? that would be
consistent anyway.

> LOL, at this rate yer face is gonna wind up so red you'll be able to
> start claiming Native American ancestry.

your pedestrian quips, though lackluster, are laughable only in their
missing wit and humor.

>>> and you're not, because I'm the only one who has sites
>>> like that),
>
>><which explains why, it only applies to OMH>
>
> Oh other people have done it...in Flash. I'm the only one whose ever
> achieved it using CSS/javascript/PHP.

he he he. so, others likewise produce gray screens after a large load-time.
and yeah, if that's what you're going for, you may as well do it all in html
as the others aren't needed for that.

;^)

>>apparently, based on your client *demand*...no one WANTS 'perfect liquid'
>>shit.
>
> Most people don't know what it is and don't have the capacity to think
> outside of their own resolution, that doesn't mean it's not important
> though.

that would be understanding your target market. you aren't curing cancer or
solving life's mysteries...importance to you is not needed for them. so, you
remain clientless.

further, you'd be one who can't seem to 'think outside of their [your] own
resolution' since you think you have a flexible, portable solution all
wrapped up in flash, when it is more than sufficiently doable in php and
other technologies that actually *are* flexible and portable. forget the
fact that you go waaaaay out of your way to produce (or try to) a tool that
no one will use. as it has been pointed out, a graphics package in most
cases is the tool for the job - and that's 'all things being equal' (which
it isn't since you lack understanding in graphics and forget to incorporate
essentials as part of the output).

> Eventually, all sites will be perfect liquid, especially as
> Flash becomes more and more set in stone as the defacto user front end
> development platform.

which will never happen...aside from the fact that 'perfect liquid' is
something you made up and provides NO benefit to functional use of a
website. flash is a tool. you are trying to make it a be-all-end-all. it
will never be more than a tool. i'm sure something will come along to
outseat html (and it's flavors), however i'm sure it won't resemble flash.
it will be lightweight and portable.

> It's basically one of those things that you do
> that clients don't need to know about.

if you wonder why you have no clients, just refer to what you've just
said...then re-evaluate how you do 'business'. thank you very much.

> It's like if yer buyin a new
> house, you don't necesarily sit there askin about what brand/type of
> insulation they used, you just assume that going with someone
> reputable means that they won't use the cheapest fuckin shit
> available.

holy hell! you live in a fucking apartment dude! when you spend > $2K or
your hard earned cash, you find out what the reputation is of your builder,
to whom they subcontract...and yes, you find out what the fuck kind of
insulation is being used AND how it's applied - among a great many MORE
detailed things you have yet to even assimilate to ask. you assume that
'reputable' is akin to what is important to *you* in a house...let me assure
you, that is NOT the case.

(but i guess if you stuck to speaking about what you knew, we'd just be
hearing crickets about now).

> With websites it's a little easier since one can see live,
> working examples of the sites you've got. In your case that would be
> NONE, so obviously you would not be the person to trust to make a web
> site.

well, you may happily go to several fortune 50 companies and see my work.
catapillar, audi, bmw, toyota, porche, forbes, i can go on...i've been at
this game a long time, noobie.

> And your lil boyfriend Brendan wouldn't be a good choice either
> since all his sites look like some piece of shit presoviet web design.

i suppose the presence of care bears on his site with an add for diapers
would have gotten him a muuuuch higher OMH rating...LOL.

>>> in either<COCK SLAP>

yawn.

>> Hey, retard, in case it skipped you (of course it did, why am I
>>> asking), I already proved that the concept could be achieved in Flash
>>> with LESS size, GREATER cross compatibility (mine will even work on IE
>>> 5 on teh Mac) and with the added benefits of custom, embedded fonts
>>> and proper font anti-aliasing:
>>> http://www.backwater-productions.net...m/URAMORON.swf
>>>
>>> ...yeah, you get to look stupid now. Have fun with that! ^_^
>
>>'proved the concept'...no, you MENTIONED the concept. proof is vastly
>>la<COCK SLAP>
>
> I didn't mention it you fuckwit, I linked right to a working model:
> http://www.backwater-productions.net...m/URAMORON.swf

sorry, by 'working' do you mean the gray area i'm seeing in thunderbird...or
the X is see in IE on my pc that doesn't have flash...or in IE when
javascript is diabled?

to me, i take that as a link 'right to a <snip incorrect adjective'>
[concept]'...and one wholly lacking a resemblance of 'proof'.

> It's done in Flash 6, so anything that works with Flash 6 (which is
> essentially everything but Lynx) will work with it. And no, you can't
> use Lynx as your backpedal since Brendan's ripped off CSS code won't
> render in Lynx (nor will render in IE 5 on the Mac and various others
> that will work with Flash 6).

that was not his point. you being functionally illiterate, let me 'splain'
to you...he meant that flash doesn't work on everything. there are a miriad
of other scenarios that exclude flash from being a solution. and with lynx,
which does understand and interpret html, it at least has data to work with
when displaying output. it has NO access to display flash content. it's just
that how html is displayed in lynx is unimportant. it's that something CAN
be display which is key.

is that another OMH attempt to bitch slap? you swing like a girl and often
never come close to hitting the mark.

> You lose, Fuckface, now bitch about it...and do a REAL shit job of it
> too. `, )

you have such a neat perspective on things...must be the view from your ass.

"Onideus Mad Hatter" <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
news:jt1lg396pru74b0jh2affmrt5dut9vk3tr@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:35:27 +0100, Brendan Gillatt
> <brendanREMOVETHIS@brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.u k> wrote:
>

THE SETUP...

>I don't run the fuck at the mouth about shit I don't know about.

THE DELIMA...

> yer not so good with the numbers, what with how you think users are
> somehow magically spacing their access apart on yer server to achieve
> a nice median hit rate.

QUE THE LAUGHTER...

500,000 (hits/month) /
30 (days/month) =
16,667 (hits/day)

86,400 (sec/day) /
16,667 (hits/day) =
5.814 (hits/sec)

4 (hr/peak) *
3,
86,400 (sec/day) /
4 *
5.184 hits per second
5.184 * 86,400 (sec/day) = 447897.6
124.42 hits available per day
10 second max usage window

"Steve" <no.one@example.com> wrote in message
news:rtDOi.231$hR7.51@newsfe03.lga...
>
> "Onideus Mad Hatter" <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
> news:jt1lg396pru74b0jh2affmrt5dut9vk3tr@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:35:27 +0100, Brendan Gillatt
>> <brendanREMOVETHIS@brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.u k> wrote:
>>
>
> THE SETUP...
>
>>I don't run the fuck at the mouth about shit I don't know about.
>
> THE DELIMA...
>
>> yer not so good with the numbers, what with how you think users are
>> somehow magically spacing their access apart on yer server to achieve
>> a nice median hit rate.
>

hit send by accident <funny in itself>

QUE THE LAUGHTER...

500,000 (hits/month) /
30 (days/month) =
16,667 (hits/day)

86,400 (sec/day) /
16,667 (hits/day) =
5.814 (hits/sec)

sorry for the garble on the previous post.

now, at 16,667 hits per day, what would be your length of time you would
consider to be between startPeak and endPeak? cuz, now matter how you break
it down, you still end up with very small numbers of hits per
second...unless you say your peak is 60 seconds long.

On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:36:06 -0500, "Steve" <no.one@example.com> wrote:

>then post the referring message id. as it is, there is no such proof any
>this thread.

So you're saying there's no such proof because you claim there isn't,
right, gotcha, carry on, Loser.

While you're at it why don't you run around and look REALLY stupid by
trying to claim that the earth isn't round. *nods*

>yeah...bloat code that produces very little and is only applicable to
>certain os' running on specific chipsets.

Wrong again, Stupid.

>so, 'perfect liquid' (so i get your jargon correct) from
>back-oriface-productions (aka shit) is actually diarhea? that would be
>consistent anyway.

Your increasing need for pathetic insults in place of real arguments
is very telling.

>> LOL, at this rate yer face is gonna wind up so red you'll be able to
>> start claiming Native American ancestry.

>your pedestrian quips, though lackluster, are laughable only in their
>missing wit and humor.

How nice of you to explain why it is you're laughing at yourself.

>> Oh other people have done it...in Flash. I'm the only one whose ever
>> achieved it using CSS/javascript/PHP.

>he he he. so, others likewise produce gray screens after a large load-time.
>and yeah, if that's what you're going for, you may as well do it all in html
>as the others aren't needed for that.

....and now he's babbling incoherently.

>;^)

What the fuck is that supposed to be? A dick nosed smiley?
Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?

>> Most people don't know what it is and don't have the capacity to think
>> outside of their own resolution, that doesn't mean it's not important
>> though.

>that would be understanding your target market. you aren't curing cancer or
>solving life's mysteries...importance to you is not needed for them. so, you
>remain clientless.

You keep confusing yourself with me. I'm the one who has clients,
Stupid, you're the one who has, well, nothing. You have no sites, you
have no clients, you have no skill level, you ain't got shit...cept
the crap you keep pulling out of yer ass to try and over-compensate
for your lack of a cock. Tell us, Stevie, just how small is your
penis these days?

>further, you'd be one who can't seem to 'think outside of their [your] own
>resolution' since you think you have a flexible, portable solution all
>wrapped up in flash, when it is more than sufficiently doable in php and
>other technologies that actually *are* flexible and portable.

You wouldn't know, Stupid. I do, because I'm the only one to have
ever created perfect liquid forms in both Flash and AJAX/PHP. And the
later of which is WAY more bloated and slow than the former (even with
server side image caching).

>forget the
>fact that you go waaaaay out of your way to produce (or try to) a tool that
>no one will use. as it has been pointed out, a graphics package in most
>cases is the tool for the job - and that's 'all things being equal' (which
>it isn't since you lack understanding in graphics and forget to incorporate
>essentials as part of the output).

Wow...I've never seen someone who could say so much without actually
saying anything. I mean, at this point you sound like yer at an
audition to be the next Starship Enterprise chief engineer. Do you
HONESTLY think you're fooling anyone with your babbling nonsense? I
mean in case it just skipped yer stupid ass most of the groups you're
posting to are chalked full of web developers who know what the fuck
they're doing and know full well that what you're dribbling is
complete and total nonsense.

>> Eventually, all sites will be perfect liquid, especially as
>> Flash becomes more and more set in stone as the defacto user front end
>> development platform.

>which will never happen...

Yeah, except for the fact that it is. LOL

>aside from the fact that 'perfect liquid' is
>something you made up and provides NO benefit to functional use of a
>website.

Only in your limited comprehension, Junior. You don't even understand
what "perfect liquid" means, so of course you can't comprehend the
benefit of such a design.

>flash is a tool.

No junior, YOUR the tool. *nods*

>you are trying to make it a be-all-end-all.

What part of "any site you can make in HTML I can make better,
smaller, faster and more cross compatible with Flash" did you NOT
comprehend the first time I said it? Put up or suck my cock, Bitch.
Either you got a website that you've made that I can't reproduce in
Flash or you ain't got shit. Pick one.

>it will never be more than a tool. i'm sure something will come along to
>outseat html (and it's flavors), however i'm sure it won't resemble flash.
>it will be lightweight and portable.

LOL, the irony is just...fuckin incredible to say the least. I wonder
if this stupid retard even has any fuckin cl00 at all as to how
moronic he keeps sounding.

>> It's basically one of those things that you do
>> that clients don't need to know about.

>if you wonder why you have no clie<COCK SLAP>

Why would I wonder about something that only seems to affect you (and
your little friend Brenden)?

Remember, Stupid...I have clients...you don't. My sites make
money...you have no sites. I know what I'm talking about...you run
the fuck at the mouth and pull shit out of yer ass.

....write it the fuck down if you can't remember, Dipshit.

>> It's like if yer buyin a new
>> house, you don't necesarily sit there askin about what brand/type of
>> insulation they used, you just assume that going with someone
>> reputable means that they won't use the cheapest fuckin shit
>> available.

>holy hell! you live in a fucking apartment dude! when you spend > $2K or
>your hard earned cash, you find out what the reputation is of your builder,
>to whom they subcontract...and yes, you find out what the fuck kind of
>insulation is being used AND how it's applied - among a great many MORE
>detailed things you have yet to even assimilate to ask. you assume that
>'reputable' is akin to what is important to *you* in a house...let me assure
>you, that is NOT the case.

You obviously don't own a house...because no real estate agent on the
planet would put up with your bullshit for longer than five minutes.
Pretty much at the point where you start demanding they take up the
floor boards so you can inspect the foundation is where they probably
show you the door and tell you to leave.

>> With websites it's a little easier since one can see live,
>> working examples of the sites you've got. In your case that would be
>> NONE, so obviously you would not be the person to trust to make a web
>> site.

>well, you may happily go to several fortune 50 companies and see my work.
>catapillar, audi, bmw, toyota, porche, forbes, i can go on...i've been at
>this game a long time, noobie.

Uh huh, and I'm sure you've even designed websites for the Queen of
England herself!

....you uh, just can't seem to recall what the site addresses are, huh?
Oh, no, wait, let me guess, they're a sekrat and teh government will
like snipe you as you sleep if you reveal your true web developer
identity!

....yeah, it's pretty easy to talk shit when aren't faced with the
inconvenience of actually having to back up any of your fuckwitted
lies, huh Junior?

>> And your lil boyfriend Brendan wouldn't be a good choice either
>> since all his sites look like some piece of shit presoviet web design.

>i suppose the presence of care bears on his site with an add for diapers
>would have gotten him a muuuuch higher OMH rating...LOL.

LOLLERCOPTER!!1! TEH DIAPURZ KANTS TO NOT GET THE LULZ!!1!

>> I didn't mention it you fuckwit, I linked right to a working model:
>> http://www.backwater-productions.net...m/URAMORON.swf

>sorry, by 'working' do you mean the gray area i'm seeing in thunderbird...or
>the X is see in IE on my pc that doesn't have flash...or in IE when
>javascript is diabled?

Your CHOICE to be an idiot doesn't negate the fact that they work in
all of those combos, Retard. You're so fuckin stupid you probably buy
a new car, drive it until it runs out of gas and then go back to the
dealer and try to convince them that the car can't run. Yeah, it
can't run with a FUCKIN RETARD behind the wheel. LOL

You might just as well be claiming that you can't see the site on your
computer because you disconnected your Internet connection. Yeah,
what you said sounds THAT fuckin retarded, you dickless wonder.

>> It's done in Flash 6, so anything that works with Flash 6 (which is
>> essentially everything but Lynx) will work with it. And no, you can't
>> use Lynx as your backpedal since Brendan's ripped off CSS code won't
>> render in Lynx (nor will render in IE 5 on the Mac and various others
>> that will work with Flash 6).

>that was not his point.

Or your speaking for him now, eh? Are you thinking for him too? Tell
us, when exactly was it that he elected you as his personal
cheerleader and spokes-retard?

>you being functionally illiterate, let me 'splain'
>to you...he meant that flash doesn't work on everything.

You disabling or not installing Flash does not negate the fact that it
WILL work on your OS/browser combo you fuckin retard. You might just
as well be claiming that it doesn't work on your system because you
don't have a browser installed. Dur-er, you're not so smart, huh
Dipshit?

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:30:18 -0500, "Steve" <no.one@example.com> wrote:

>
>"Onideus Mad Hatter" <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
>news:jt1lg396pru74b0jh2affmrt5dut9vk3tr@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:35:27 +0100, Brendan Gillatt
>> <brendanREMOVETHIS@brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.u k> wrote:
>>
>
>THE SETUP...
>
>>I don't run the fuck at the mouth about shit I don't know about.
>
>THE DELIMA...
>
>> yer not so good with the numbers, what with how you think users are
>> somehow magically spacing their access apart on yer server to achieve
>> a nice median hit rate.
>
>QUE THE LAUGHTER...
>
>500,000 (hits/month) /
> 30 (days/month) =
> 16,667 (hits/day)
>
> 86,400 (sec/day) /
> 16,667 (hits/day) =
> 5.814 (hits/sec)
>
> 4 (hr/peak) *
> 3,
> 86,400 (sec/day) /
> 4 *
>5.184 hits per second
>5.184 * 86,400 (sec/day) = 447897.6
>124.42 hits available per day
>10 second max usage window

You're still a r-tard, Stupid. For all you know all those hits
happened in the same hour on the same day and the rest of the time it
got zero hits...yer kinda fuckwitted and stupid like that, huh?

Keep making ASSumptions and retarded, nonsensical, non-real world
equations to try and justify your idiocy...it's amusing if nothing
else.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 00:19:17 -0500, "Steve" <no.one@example.com> wrote:

>
>"Steve" <no.one@example.com> wrote in message
>news:rtDOi.231$hR7.51@newsfe03.lga...
>>
>> "Onideus Mad Hatter" <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
>> news:jt1lg396pru74b0jh2affmrt5dut9vk3tr@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:35:27 +0100, Brendan Gillatt
>>> <brendanREMOVETHIS@brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.u k> wrote:
>>>
>>
>> THE SETUP...
>>
>>>I don't run the fuck at the mouth about shit I don't know about.
>>
>> THE DELIMA...
>>
>>> yer not so good with the numbers, what with how you think users are
>>> somehow magically spacing their access apart on yer server to achieve
>>> a nice median hit rate.
>>
>
>hit send by accident <funny in itself>
>
>QUE THE LAUGHTER...
>
> 500,000 (hits/month) /
> 30 (days/month) =
> 16,667 (hits/day)
>
> 86,400 (sec/day) /
> 16,667 (hits/day) =
> 5.814 (hits/sec)
>
>sorry for the garble on the previous post.

....um, that's like ALL of your posts you fuckwit!

>now, at 16,667 hits per day, what would be your length of time you would
>consider to be between startPeak and endPeak? cuz, now matter how you break
>it down, you still end up with very small numbers of hits per
>second...unless you say your peak is 60 seconds long.

What I would "consider" or what you would "consider" has
abso-fuckin-lutely no bearing on REALITY what-so-fuckin-evar,
Sunshine. Not unless you've been phonin up Miss Cleo and she's been
givin you the numbers you keep pullin out of yer r-tarded ass.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
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"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )