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"Steve" <no.one@example.com> wrote:
>
>
> "Giganews Moderator" <nobody@mixmin.net> wrote in message
> news:61eb199724c03e05e14d6592c8d77015@anon.mixmast er.mixmin.net...
> > In article <Wf2dnf-h0_YGz5fanZ2dnUVZ8sOonZ2d@pipex.net>
> > Brendan Gillatt
> > <brendanREMOVETHIS@brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.u k> wrote:
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> >> Onideus Mad Hatter stammered in his own shit:
> >> > On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:31:38 +0100, Brendan Gillatt
> >> > <brendanREMOVETHIS@brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.u k> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>> I just want to make sure you comprehend what you're dealing with
> >> >>> before you make some really stupid fuckin mistake (like the last
> >> >>> d00d). You've been feigning thick skin, but I wonder how thick it
> >> >>> really goes. Most people draw the line at some point...and I very
> >> >>> frequently have a tendency to cross those lines. So I'm basically
> >> >>> just telling you to be aware of just how far over the line I'll go
> >> >>> online.
> >> >
> >> >> Dear me... I'm quivering.
> >
> > Sir, I have seldom seen a more masterful laying of snares, and
> > in so little time! With so little effort, calm wit, and
> > masterful superiority. Why doth the heathen rage? Because he
> > knoweth his time is short! Fear not those who can kill the body,
> > but fear the One who can burn both body and soul in everlasting
> > hell.
>
> WTF?!!!
>
> all anyone needs is fire, right? the concept of soul in an individual's mind
> ends precisely the moment the mind ceases to function. those of us who use
> our minds to think, tend to want proof of such things as 'souls' and
> 'everlasting hell'. the only thing keeping god alive is man's primal
> activity of affixing meaning and purpose to everything...including himself.
> right now, gawd is on life support since science gives better, more
> accurate, and evidencially supported answers to meaning and purpose - and
> that, through function.
>
> there's already one fuckwit by the name of omh (matthew moulton) running
> around in here...i hope you're not the next loose nut!

Do you address my message to yourself? Does a natural man
comprehend language of the spirit? Do they argue where they have
no understanding? As is the case with the murderer who dug the
pit for another? He has fallen into his own creation. I watch
him attempt to claw from it. He races and struggles to avoid
already having been caught. While he yet has spirit that
confirms this, if he dare listent to it, he instead denies it in
great fear and lack of understanding. So the noose tightens.
Fear is met with still more fear. Until any opportunity for
escape is closed. Fire, yes, ignited by the tongue and musings
of the fool. See what a GREAT fire it is!

Giganews Moderator

"Giganews Moderator" <nobody@mixmin.net> wrote in message
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> In article <xCKPi.6$762.4@newsfe05.lga>
> "Steve" <no.one@example.com> wrote:

>> > Sir, I have seldom seen a more masterful laying of snares, and
>> > in so little time! With so little effort, calm wit, and
>> > masterful superiority. Why doth the heathen rage? Because he
>> > knoweth his time is short! Fear not those who can kill the body,
>> > but fear the One who can burn both body and soul in everlasting
>> > hell.
>>
>> WTF?!!!
>>
>> all anyone needs is fire, right? the concept of soul in an individual's
>> mind
>> ends precisely the moment the mind ceases to function. those of us who
>> use
>> our minds to think, tend to want proof of such things as 'souls' and
>> 'everlasting hell'. the only thing keeping god alive is man's primal
>> activity of affixing meaning and purpose to everything...including
>> himself.
>> right now, gawd is on life support since science gives better, more
>> accurate, and evidencially supported answers to meaning and purpose - and
>> that, through function.
>>
>> there's already one fuckwit by the name of omh (matthew moulton) running
>> around in here...i hope you're not the next loose nut!
>
> Do you address my message to yourself?

i address your message, yes. my response applies to your message. as i'm an
atheist, it would be silly for me to address (apply) it to myself.

> Does a natural man
> comprehend language of the spirit?

lack of proof of a spirit aside, part of the problem is that no one can.
that means that one may believe ANYTHING about the spirit world, god
included, and be just as accurately incorrect as the next. this is where
pascal makes himself look a bit silly, since that's what he begins his wager
with 'no one *can* know gawd' <paraphrased>.

> Do they argue where they have
> no understanding?

i don't know. i argue where ever i see fit. as for being allowed to draw
conclusions about a postulate or theory someone has, abso-fucking-lutely!
were there proof, there'd be no understanding...or at least a means to fill
in the gaps to create a good picture. since man invented gawd(s), one cannot
understand a specific gawd or spirit unless he invests himself in learning
its resident culture. it has little to do with non-existent things, however.

> As is the case with the murderer who dug the
> pit for another? He has fallen into his own creation. I watch
> him attempt to claw from it. He races and struggles to avoid
> already having been caught.

to where exactly, does he race? he's in a pit, remember? the fellow should
have watched his step. the circumstance was wholly avoidable. you consider
the acceptance or denial of 'spririt' as inevitable and unavoidable. that
certainly is not the case. 'spirit' is a concept...unless you're talking
about jim beam.

> While he yet has spirit that
> confirms this,

confirms what? that he's in a pit? does he need a spirit for that?!

> if he dare listent to it,

he's avoiding listening to whatever voices you're saying are in his
head...he doesn't want to be considered crazy on top of having fallen into a
pit, like a dumbass.

> he instead denies it in
> great fear and lack of understanding.

no, it's like i said, if you hear voices in your head, you should seek
psychiatric . plus, it's hard for him or anyone else to see he's not in
a pit. this is completely unlike spiritualism where there is no objective
condition for the fallen man that everyone can observe and agree upon -
that's what you get when you have no proof.

> So the noose tightens.

thought he was in a pit? you're very confusing.

> Fear is met with still more fear.

only by the reluctant, unwitting, or cowardly.

> Until any opportunity for
> escape is closed.

a ladder? in the initial condition of your analogy, there was no mention of
a ladder. am i to assume there was one there the whole time? he should have
climbed out then. since there is no spirit whereby a person can heft
themselves out of said pit, i see spiritualism even less ful than this
mans own efforts to free himself.

> Fire, yes, ignited by the tongue and musings
> of the fool.

are you saying your tonge is hard and rough enough to produce fire? mine is
kinda wet and soft-ish, not unlike most other people's. now, if by musings,
you mean wit...well, that's most often very dull or very sharp or somewhere
inbetween the two. since you have yet to 'muse', and given the intellectual
effort afforded in this writing of yours, it would be hard for me to
conceive of you being able to produce even a slight burning sensation in my
side - i doubt you can make me laugh enough. i could be wrong on that
however. if you post more of this drivel, chances are that subsequent posts
of yours will probably degrade into even more sillines.

> See what a GREAT fire it is!

ummmm, no, your analogy is that i'm in a pit, remember?

Damn, Steve. Put your religious beliefs aside and read the metaphor.

Drew

"Drew" <whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Damn, Steve. Put your religious beliefs aside and read the metaphor.

my lack of religious beliefs aside, what then, was the metaphor i missed? i
thought i showed i understood the metaphore and drew the contrasts at the
same time. sup?

Steve wrote:
> "Drew" <whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:470ff10d$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> Damn, Steve. Put your religious beliefs aside and read the metaphor.
>
> my lack of religious beliefs aside, what then, was the metaphor i missed? i
> thought i showed i understood the metaphore and drew the contrasts at the
> same time. sup?
>
>

Who's neck is the noose around?

Who is the recipient of masterfully laid snares?

What heathen is raging?

What "murderer" has fallen into his own creation?

Drew
Pay attention.

"Drew" <whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Steve wrote:
>> "Drew" <whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:470ff10d$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> Damn, Steve. Put your religious beliefs aside and read the metaphor.
>>
>> my lack of religious beliefs aside, what then, was the metaphor i missed?
>> i thought i showed i understood the metaphore and drew the contrasts at
>> the same time. sup?
>
> Who's neck is the noose around?
>
> Who is the recipient of masterfully laid snares?
>
> What heathen is raging?
>
> What "murderer" has fallen into his own creation?

the 'heathen' of course. that would technically be the godless or
irreligious. and though really the comment was aimed at all participating in
the current thread, i pay particular attention to religious babble and
actually fit the definition. so, aside from condecending to the entire list
of participants for our 'raging' - which the religious tend to like to do,
condecend that the rest of us just don't 'get it' and their morals are far
superlative to other mortals' - i think the analogy is full of logical holes
and is merely drivel. now if the kook wants to defend his position, i invite
it.

> Pay attention.

yes, please do. why you're jumping in to say i missed the point, when i
clearly got it, is beyond me.

On Oct 12, 9:24 pm, "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
> "Drew" <whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4710047c$0$4996$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>
>
> > Steve wrote:
> >> "Drew" <whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:470ff10d$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com. ..
> >>> Damn, Steve. Put your religious beliefs aside and read the metaphor.
>
> >> my lack of religious beliefs aside, what then, was the metaphor i missed?
> >> i thought i showed i understood the metaphore and drew the contrasts at
> >> the same time. sup?
>
> > Who's neck is the noose around?
>
> > Who is the recipient of masterfully laid snares?
>
> > What heathen is raging?
>
> > What "murderer" has fallen into his own creation?
>
> the 'heathen' of course. that would technically be the godless or
> irreligious. and though really the comment was aimed at all participating in
> the current thread, i pay particular attention to religious babble and
> actually fit the definition. so, aside from condecending to the entire list
> of participants for our 'raging' - which the religious tend to like to do,
> condecend that the rest of us just don't 'get it' and their morals are far
> superlative to other mortals' - i think the analogy is full of logical holes
> and is merely drivel. now if the kook wants to defend his position, i invite
> it.
>
> > Pay attention.
>
> yes, please do. why you're jumping in to say i missed the point, when i
> clearly got it, is beyond me.

You're taking it too literally. Think metaphorically.

Think back to the days when you read "Canterbury Tales" in school and
you'll get it.

<danielcarrington4@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 12, 9:24 pm, "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
>> "Drew" <whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:4710047c$0$4996$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > Steve wrote:
>> >> "Drew" <whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:470ff10d$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com. ..
>> >>> Damn, Steve. Put your religious beliefs aside and read the metaphor.
>>
>> >> my lack of religious beliefs aside, what then, was the metaphor i
>> >> missed?
>> >> i thought i showed i understood the metaphore and drew the contrasts
>> >> at
>> >> the same time. sup?
>>
>> > Who's neck is the noose around?
>>
>> > Who is the recipient of masterfully laid snares?
>>
>> > What heathen is raging?
>>
>> > What "murderer" has fallen into his own creation?
>>
>> the 'heathen' of course. that would technically be the godless or
>> irreligious. and though really the comment was aimed at all participating
>> in
>> the current thread, i pay particular attention to religious babble and
>> actually fit the definition. so, aside from condecending to the entire
>> list
>> of participants for our 'raging' - which the religious tend to like to
>> do,
>> condecend that the rest of us just don't 'get it' and their morals are
>> far
>> superlative to other mortals' - i think the analogy is full of logical
>> holes
>> and is merely drivel. now if the kook wants to defend his position, i
>> invite
>> it.
>>
>> > Pay attention.
>>
>> yes, please do. why you're jumping in to say i missed the point, when i
>> clearly got it, is beyond me.
>
> You're taking it too literally. Think metaphorically.
>
> Think back to the days when you read "Canterbury Tales" in school and
> you'll get it.

omg, eod

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"Steve" <no.one@example.com> wrote:
>
>
> "Drew" <whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4710047c$0$4996$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> > Steve wrote:
> >> "Drew" <whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:470ff10d$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

> > Pay attention. [drum roll please]
>
> is beyond me.

Bingo!

"Giganews Moderator" <nobody@mixmin.net> wrote in message
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> In article <E%VPi.90$3d2.70@newsfe06.lga>
> "Steve" <no.one@example.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Drew" <whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4710047c$0$4996$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> > Steve wrote:
>> >> "Drew" <whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:470ff10d$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>> > Pay attention. [drum roll please]
>>
>> is beyond me.
>
> Bingo!

you're a knob.

On Oct 13, 12:51 pm, "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
> <danielcarringt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1192296003.510114.17510@v29g2000prd.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 12, 9:24 pm, "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
> >> "Drew" <whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:4710047c$0$4996$4c368faf@roadrunner.com.. .
>
> >> > Steve wrote:
> >> >> "Drew" <whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:470ff10d$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com. ..
> >> >>> Damn, Steve. Put your religious beliefs aside and read the metaphor.
>
> >> >> my lack of religious beliefs aside, what then, was the metaphor i
> >> >> missed?
> >> >> i thought i showed i understood the metaphore and drew the contrasts
> >> >> at
> >> >> the same time. sup?
>
> >> > Who's neck is the noose around?
>
> >> > Who is the recipient of masterfully laid snares?
>
> >> > What heathen is raging?
>
> >> > What "murderer" has fallen into his own creation?
>
> >> the 'heathen' of course. that would technically be the godless or
> >> irreligious. and though really the comment was aimed at all participating
> >> in
> >> the current thread, i pay particular attention to religious babble and
> >> actually fit the definition. so, aside from condecending to the entire
> >> list
> >> of participants for our 'raging' - which the religious tend to like to
> >> do,
> >> condecend that the rest of us just don't 'get it' and their morals are
> >> far
> >> superlative to other mortals' - i think the analogy is full of logical
> >> holes
> >> and is merely drivel. now if the kook wants to defend his position, i
> >> invite
> >> it.
>
> >> > Pay attention.
>
> >> yes, please do. why you're jumping in to say i missed the point, when i
> >> clearly got it, is beyond me.
>
> > You're taking it too literally. Think metaphorically.
>
> > Think back to the days when you read "Canterbury Tales" in school and
> > you'll get it.
>
> omg, eod

I'm government, son, you'll have to school me in what "eod" means.

In my world it usually means "Explosive Ordnance" detection, division,
disposal, deployment .... usually anything that blows up.

On Oct 8, 11:54 am, Brendan Gillatt
<brendanREMOVET...@brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.u k> wrote:
>
> Metaphors don't travel well over the internet - I can't read your body
> language, terribly sorry ;]

This morning my project manager came in and was talking about this
group of users we support that always seem to be difiicult.

While he was talking, I did the "Mikes hard lemonade" angry
head....he started laughing and said ..."yeah ...that's it ...they
are just like that ugly head in that commercial!" ....ha ha....I
did not expect him to get it!

mk5000

"Kips are not required but it would be hard, let me give it a try,
McNamera mount, giant 1/1, giant 1 1/2, tkatchev, pak, stalder,
shaposhnikova, uprise 1/2, blind healy, double front dismount (D+C+D+D
+D+c+D+C+D+D) so that's
actually, D+C+D+D+D (.8) and D+C+D+D (.6). And actually would be a
good routine if someone could still do the McNamera mount, but it's a
hard mount and the high bar is now higher. But yes it could be
possible but VERY hard."--
Kevin McMahon

<danielcarrington4@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 13, 12:51 pm, "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
>> <danielcarringt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1192296003.510114.17510@v29g2000prd.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 12, 9:24 pm, "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
>> >> "Drew" <whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:4710047c$0$4996$4c368faf@roadrunner.com.. .
>>
>> >> > Steve wrote:
>> >> >> "Drew" <whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>news:470ff10d$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com. ..
>> >> >>> Damn, Steve. Put your religious beliefs aside and read the
>> >> >>> metaphor.
>>
>> >> >> my lack of religious beliefs aside, what then, was the metaphor i
>> >> >> missed?
>> >> >> i thought i showed i understood the metaphore and drew the
>> >> >> contrasts
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> the same time. sup?
>>
>> >> > Who's neck is the noose around?
>>
>> >> > Who is the recipient of masterfully laid snares?
>>
>> >> > What heathen is raging?
>>
>> >> > What "murderer" has fallen into his own creation?
>>
>> >> the 'heathen' of course. that would technically be the godless or
>> >> irreligious. and though really the comment was aimed at all
>> >> participating
>> >> in
>> >> the current thread, i pay particular attention to religious babble and
>> >> actually fit the definition. so, aside from condecending to the entire
>> >> list
>> >> of participants for our 'raging' - which the religious tend to like to
>> >> do,
>> >> condecend that the rest of us just don't 'get it' and their morals are
>> >> far
>> >> superlative to other mortals' - i think the analogy is full of logical
>> >> holes
>> >> and is merely drivel. now if the kook wants to defend his position, i
>> >> invite
>> >> it.
>>
>> >> > Pay attention.
>>
>> >> yes, please do. why you're jumping in to say i missed the point, when
>> >> i
>> >> clearly got it, is beyond me.
>>
>> > You're taking it too literally. Think metaphorically.
>>
>> > Think back to the days when you read "Canterbury Tales" in school and
>> > you'll get it.
>>
>> omg, eod
>
> I'm government, son, you'll have to school me in what "eod" means.
>
> In my world it usually means "Explosive Ordnance" detection, division,
> disposal, deployment .... usually anything that blows up.

i'm not your son and am probably your senior...please...no need to try and
condecend.

it means end of discussion.

cheers.

On Oct 14, 7:47 pm, "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
> <danielcarringt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1192314042.444297.15850@v23g2000prn.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 13, 12:51 pm, "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
> >> <danielcarringt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1192296003.510114.17510@v29g2000prd.googleg roups.com...
>
> >> > On Oct 12, 9:24 pm, "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
> >> >> "Drew" <whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >> >>news:4710047c$0$4996$4c368faf@roadrunner.com.. .
>
> >> >> > Steve wrote:
> >> >> >> "Drew" <whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >>news:470ff10d$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com. ..
> >> >> >>> Damn, Steve. Put your religious beliefs aside and read the
> >> >> >>> metaphor.
>
> >> >> >> my lack of religious beliefs aside, what then, was the metaphor i
> >> >> >> missed?
> >> >> >> i thought i showed i understood the metaphore and drew the
> >> >> >> contrasts
> >> >> >> at
> >> >> >> the same time. sup?
>
> >> >> > Who's neck is the noose around?
>
> >> >> > Who is the recipient of masterfully laid snares?
>
> >> >> > What heathen is raging?
>
> >> >> > What "murderer" has fallen into his own creation?
>
> >> >> the 'heathen' of course. that would technically be the godless or
> >> >> irreligious. and though really the comment was aimed at all
> >> >> participating
> >> >> in
> >> >> the current thread, i pay particular attention to religious babble and
> >> >> actually fit the definition. so, aside from condecending to the entire
> >> >> list
> >> >> of participants for our 'raging' - which the religious tend to like to
> >> >> do,
> >> >> condecend that the rest of us just don't 'get it' and their morals are
> >> >> far
> >> >> superlative to other mortals' - i think the analogy is full of logical
> >> >> holes
> >> >> and is merely drivel. now if the kook wants to defend his position, i
> >> >> invite
> >> >> it.
>
> >> >> > Pay attention.
>
> >> >> yes, please do. why you're jumping in to say i missed the point, when
> >> >> i
> >> >> clearly got it, is beyond me.
>
> >> > You're taking it too literally. Think metaphorically.
>
> >> > Think back to the days when you read "Canterbury Tales" in school and
> >> > you'll get it.
>
> >> omg, eod
>
> > I'm government, son, you'll have to school me in what "eod" means.
>
> > In my world it usually means "Explosive Ordnance" detection, division,
> > disposal, deployment .... usually anything that blows up.
>
> i'm not your son and am probably your senior...please...no need to try and
> condecend.

Sorry for the "son" - I'm a Southerner by birthright. And after a few
too many, the drawl comes out to play.

Wasn't my intention to condescend. And I'm sorry if it came out that
way. Genuinely.

> it means end of discussion.

Ah. Gotcha. I think that I didn't get that is a high sign that I'm too
obsessive about my work.

After another few, I might just get that out of my system.
>
> cheers.

BTW, I don't think anyone was implying that you were being too "dense"
to understand what Giganews was saying. I know I didn't.

Perhaps I'm not as intuitive as I think I am, but I think GN was
saying that OMH has been, how you say, hoisted on his own petard.

It wasn't you GP was talking about - it was OMH. HE'S the one falling
into his own trap. It's HIS neck the noose is around. GN was just
being ... a bit flowery and poetic in his/her goosing of OMH.

FWIW, I react the same way you do about being an atheist when someone
talks about the military - might be because I'm directly affected by
budget cuts and such. Might be because you can't turn around without
SOMEONE bad-mouthing it. When you're always expecting to be slammed,
you tend to expect it. And I often do expect it.

But regardless of what anyone here thinks, I'm not out to piss anyone
off (unless it's OMH - and even then, it's a fringe benefit). Not you.
Not Jerry.

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> > "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
>
> >> "Drew" <whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:4710047c$0$4996$4c368faf@roadrunner.com.. .
> >> > Steve wrote:
> >> >> "Drew" <whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:470ff10d$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com. ..
>
> >> > Pay attention. [drum roll please]
>
> >> is beyond me.
>
> > Bingo!
>
> you're a knob.

All right, now GN IS being a jerk. But he really wasn't talking about
you before - he was talking about OMH. I think he's just frustrated
because you're refusing to "get it."

No offense meant.

<danielcarrington4@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 14, 7:47 pm, "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
>> <danielcarringt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1192314042.444297.15850@v23g2000prn.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 13, 12:51 pm, "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
>> >> <danielcarringt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:1192296003.510114.17510@v29g2000prd.googleg roups.com...
>>
>> >> > On Oct 12, 9:24 pm, "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
>> >> >> "Drew" <whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> >>news:4710047c$0$4996$4c368faf@roadrunner.com.. .
>>
>> >> >> > Steve wrote:
>> >> >> >> "Drew" <whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >>news:470ff10d$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com. ..
>> >> >> >>> Damn, Steve. Put your religious beliefs aside and read the
>> >> >> >>> metaphor.
>>
>> >> >> >> my lack of religious beliefs aside, what then, was the metaphor
>> >> >> >> i
>> >> >> >> missed?
>> >> >> >> i thought i showed i understood the metaphore and drew the
>> >> >> >> contrasts
>> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> the same time. sup?
>>
>> >> >> > Who's neck is the noose around?
>>
>> >> >> > Who is the recipient of masterfully laid snares?
>>
>> >> >> > What heathen is raging?
>>
>> >> >> > What "murderer" has fallen into his own creation?
>>
>> >> >> the 'heathen' of course. that would technically be the godless or
>> >> >> irreligious. and though really the comment was aimed at all
>> >> >> participating
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> the current thread, i pay particular attention to religious babble
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> actually fit the definition. so, aside from condecending to the
>> >> >> entire
>> >> >> list
>> >> >> of participants for our 'raging' - which the religious tend to like
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> do,
>> >> >> condecend that the rest of us just don't 'get it' and their morals
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> far
>> >> >> superlative to other mortals' - i think the analogy is full of
>> >> >> logical
>> >> >> holes
>> >> >> and is merely drivel. now if the kook wants to defend his position,
>> >> >> i
>> >> >> invite
>> >> >> it.
>>
>> >> >> > Pay attention.
>>
>> >> >> yes, please do. why you're jumping in to say i missed the point,
>> >> >> when
>> >> >> i
>> >> >> clearly got it, is beyond me.
>>
>> >> > You're taking it too literally. Think metaphorically.
>>
>> >> > Think back to the days when you read "Canterbury Tales" in school
>> >> > and
>> >> > you'll get it.
>>
>> >> omg, eod
>>
>> > I'm government, son, you'll have to school me in what "eod" means.
>>
>> > In my world it usually means "Explosive Ordnance" detection, division,
>> > disposal, deployment .... usually anything that blows up.
>>
>> i'm not your son and am probably your senior...please...no need to try
>> and
>> condecend.
>
> Sorry for the "son" - I'm a Southerner by birthright. And after a few
> too many, the drawl comes out to play.
>
> Wasn't my intention to condescend. And I'm sorry if it came out that
> way. Genuinely.
>
>> it means end of discussion.
>
> Ah. Gotcha. I think that I didn't get that is a high sign that I'm too
> obsessive about my work.
>
> After another few, I might just get that out of my system.
>>
>> cheers.
>
> BTW, I don't think anyone was implying that you were being too "dense"
> to understand what Giganews was saying. I know I didn't.
>
> Perhaps I'm not as intuitive as I think I am, but I think GN was
> saying that OMH has been, how you say, hoisted on his own petard.

i know...i did get that.

> It wasn't you GP was talking about - it was OMH. HE'S the one falling
> into his own trap. It's HIS neck the noose is around. GN was just
> being ... a bit flowery and poetic in his/her goosing of OMH.

i know. however 'his/her' goosing wasn't 'his/her's. i believe it is a quote
from revelation. even the pit analogy was a quote. the fact that i know this
as an atheist, and seeing it spewed out here, just taunts me to break it
down and ask for its perpetuator to explain it in real terms...to discover
if he/she/it can - as opposed to just pasting everything with a
conventionally 'wise' hand-me-down.

instead, i got 'bingo!' which answered that question for me quite nicely.
;^)


> FWIW, I react the same way you do about being an atheist when someone
> talks about the military - might be because I'm directly affected by
> budget cuts and such. Might be because you can't turn around without
> SOMEONE bad-mouthing it. When you're always expecting to be slammed,
> you tend to expect it. And I often do expect it.

i don't get the budget cut-n-such as a tie-in to bad-mouthing. and i don't
prosthetylize. although a good friend of mine slapped me in the face once
because i said i was an atheist. she had seen me as an ideal christian of
good moral fiber...the statement floored her as inconceivable. we're still
good friends. she just thinks i'm in denial. i just laugh.

> But regardless of what anyone here thinks, I'm not out to piss anyone
> off (unless it's OMH - and even then, it's a fringe benefit). Not you.
> Not Jerry.

i don't get worked up about any of this. that would just take energy
needlessly. you meet all kinds out here. jerry and i had a 'heated' debate
over religion a couple of weeks back. name-calling and the whole bit. we
just don't see eye to eye. if you notice, we get along just fine as if that
thread had never taken place. you and i may be chummy here and be at
eachother's throughts in another thread. it's fun like that. i'm not ever
gunna get angry. even with omh, it's the same. while i think he was a waste
of sperm and egg, i'm not going to work myself into a fuss about something i
can't change...i just understand him/her/it for what it is, and then move
on. i think we all know he's pretty kooky. ;^)

<danielcarrington4@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 13, 4:45 pm, "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
>> "Giganews Moderator" <nob...@mixmin.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:552beb84d92a5ac8cd4711544a10cd04@anon.mixmast er.mixmin.net...
>>
>> > In article <E%VPi.90$3d2...@newsfe06.lga>
>> > "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> "Drew" <whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:4710047c$0$4996$4c368faf@roadrunner.com.. .
>> >> > Steve wrote:
>> >> >> "Drew" <whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>news:470ff10d$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com. ..
>>
>> >> > Pay attention. [drum roll please]
>>
>> >> is beyond me.
>>
>> > Bingo!
>>
>> you're a knob.
>
> All right, now GN IS being a jerk. But he really wasn't talking about
> you before - he was talking about OMH. I think he's just frustrated
> because you're refusing to "get it."
>
> No offense meant.

i'm pretty thick skinned. and, while i knew he was referring to omh, we've
all been 'raging'...see the length and depth of this thread? so, it can
equally apply to all. what i wanted gn to do was to apply appologetics to
his biblical passage reference(s). he obviously didn't 'get it' even though
i took paigns to break down each fallicy...begging him to respond, in
essense. i assume either he didn't catch that or he can't make a descent
defense. i tend to believe the latter, since ad-homonyms are generally a
sure sign of that.

btw, my refusal to 'get it' the *way* he intended it is a conscious
decision. i got it just fine. i just wasn't going to let him off the hook
with passing meaningless analogy off as wise or profound. ;^)

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:35:47 +0100, Brendan Gillatt
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>Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>> I hate to ruin yer lil Hatter fantasy, Stain, but the only time I ever
>> got "fired" was at Sykes...and technically I quit about three months
>> before they fired me, I just went all Office Space on 'em, which was
>> hella fun. I really must recommend that to anyone working as a
>> cubical monkey (which is most of you tards...well, except for you
>> Stain, I guess yer still in middle school, huh?).

>I suppose that's going on your resume then.

Well yeah, of course. At least at any job in the Walla Walla area.
See around here, Kiddo...Sykes is like a big joke. Mostly cause they
had really fucked up business practices which wound up drivin 'em
straight into an inescapable hole of shit. Basically they screwed all
the people they workin for 'em who really knew their stuff and then in
retaliation all the good people either quit or wound up gettin fired
for 'not playin nice'. To further complicate things they had this
idiot policy of NEVER hiring anyone back if they quit or got fired.
So needless to say it didn't take them very long to go through every
semi-technical oriented person in the entire area and afterwards they
were just left with the fuckin dregs of society. Then, to compound
matters even worse, they couldn't afford to pay people benefits, so
they had this bullshit story about how if you worked there for six
months you'd get benefits...except about five and a half months in
they magically always seemed to come up with an excuse to either fire
or layoff those about to get benefits. And so then as a result they
very quickly built up a reputation around town. The big joke for a
long time was how EVERYBODY knew someone who "used" to work at Sykes.
LOL

Oh and then, because they lost all their technical minded
people...well, it reached a point where they simply could no longer do
computer support...at all. So they wound up downgrading to telephone
tech support and a few months back I guess they were downgrading even
further to do bank/billing support for some financial outfit. Their
original staff was somewhere around 300...now it's like 30. Their
building used to be the pinnacle of modern coolness, with doors that
opened using your ID badges, top of the line computer systems, this
uber cool looking server room encased in glass, beautifully landscaped
with sod and trees...gone, all gone. The landscape was left for shit,
it turned brown, the grass died, most of the trees died and weeds took
over everywhere. All those computer that were top of the line in
1999...yeah, they haven't been upgraded since and so all their systems
are nearly a decade out of date. Their server room...nearly
dismantled, all the good, viable equipment was sold off and now it's
just running a little bare-bones network setup. They don't do the
name badges anymore either, they switched the doors over to the
traditional lock and key, etc, etc.

So yeah, I don't mind having Sykes on my resume...it's like a fuckin
badge of honor around here in this town. People are like, "Oh
Sykes...so how long did you serve?" It's like our hometown fuckin
Vietnam of sorts. LOL

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."