Hi, I'm a new SEO learner, any replies are greatly appreciated.

I have a client who INSIST a splash page with only 3 links. My worry
is that SE will not pick up the site as there is no content. My first
thought is to have at least a 1 line description for each page so
there are text and visitor will have a sense of what they will get on
the page. Client finally agrees but need to content to be hidden
until the link has been click.

My solution is to have multi content block but hide them. Code as
follow but I'm afraid since the text is hidden, it's consider as
spamming / cloaking?

#nav { color: #0000; }
#nav li { display: inline; }
#container { height: 300px; overflow: hidden; }
.content { height: 300px;}

<ul id="nav">
<li><a href="#page1">Page 1</a></li>
<li><a href="#page2">Page 2 </a></li>
<li><a href="#page3">Page 3</a></li>
</ul>

<div id="container">

<div class="content">
<a name="page1"></a>
<p>Page 1 description<a href="http://www.xxx.com/page1.html">learn
more</a></p>
</div>

<div class="content">
<a name="page2"></a>
<p>Page 2 description<a href="http://www.xxx.com/page2.html">learn
more</a></p>
</div>

<div class="content">
<a name="page3"></a>
<p>Page 3 description<a href="http://www.xxx.com/page3.html">learn
more</a></p>
</div>

</div>

ultrakit schreef:
> Hi, I'm a new SEO learner, any replies are greatly appreciated.
>
> I have a client who INSIST a splash page with only 3 links. My worry
> is that SE will not pick up the site as there is no content. My first
> thought is to have at least a 1 line description for each page so
> there are text and visitor will have a sense of what they will get on
> the page. Client finally agrees but need to content to be hidden
> until the link has been click.
>
> My solution is to have multi content block but hide them. Code as
> follow but I'm afraid since the text is hidden, it's consider as
> spamming / cloaking?

[snip code]

One simple answer: YES


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"Tonnie Lubbers" <t.prasing@chello.nl> wrote in message
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> ultrakit schreef:
>> Hi, I'm a new SEO learner, any replies are greatly appreciated.
>>
>> I have a client who INSIST a splash page with only 3 links. My worry
>> is that SE will not pick up the site as there is no content. My first
>> thought is to have at least a 1 line description for each page so
>> there are text and visitor will have a sense of what they will get on
>> the page. Client finally agrees but need to content to be hidden
>> until the link has been click.
>>
>> My solution is to have multi content block but hide them. Code as
>> follow but I'm afraid since the text is hidden, it's consider as
>> spamming / cloaking?
>
> [snip code]
>
> One simple answer: YES
>
>

http://www.uksmallbusinessdirectory....es/hidden.html

T.J. schreef:
> "Tonnie Lubbers" <t.prasing@chello.nl> wrote in message
> news:jgoUi.7171$Hv4.3372@amstwist00...
>> ultrakit schreef:
>>> Hi, I'm a new SEO learner, any replies are greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> I have a client who INSIST a splash page with only 3 links. My worry
>>> is that SE will not pick up the site as there is no content. My first
>>> thought is to have at least a 1 line description for each page so
>>> there are text and visitor will have a sense of what they will get on
>>> the page. Client finally agrees but need to content to be hidden
>>> until the link has been click.
>>>
>>> My solution is to have multi content block but hide them. Code as
>>> follow but I'm afraid since the text is hidden, it's consider as
>>> spamming / cloaking?
>> [snip code]
>>
>> One simple answer: YES
>>
>>
>
> http://www.uksmallbusinessdirectory....es/hidden.html

Quality guidelines - basic principles

* Make pages for users, not for search engines.

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"Tonnie Lubbers" <t.prasing@chello.nl> wrote in message
news:V2qUi.7196$Hv4.5540@amstwist00...
> T.J. schreef:
>> "Tonnie Lubbers" <t.prasing@chello.nl> wrote in message
>> news:jgoUi.7171$Hv4.3372@amstwist00...
>>> ultrakit schreef:
>>>> Hi, I'm a new SEO learner, any replies are greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> I have a client who INSIST a splash page with only 3 links. My worry
>>>> is that SE will not pick up the site as there is no content. My first
>>>> thought is to have at least a 1 line description for each page so
>>>> there are text and visitor will have a sense of what they will get on
>>>> the page. Client finally agrees but need to content to be hidden
>>>> until the link has been click.
>>>>
>>>> My solution is to have multi content block but hide them. Code as
>>>> follow but I'm afraid since the text is hidden, it's consider as
>>>> spamming / cloaking?
>>> [snip code]
>>>
>>> One simple answer: YES
>>>
>>>
>>
>> http://www.uksmallbusinessdirectory....es/hidden.html
>
> Quality guidelines - basic principles
>
> * Make pages for users, not for search engines.
>

Does that mean yes or no?

T.J. schreef:
> "Tonnie Lubbers" <t.prasing@chello.nl> wrote in message
> news:V2qUi.7196$Hv4.5540@amstwist00...
>> T.J. schreef:
>>> "Tonnie Lubbers" <t.prasing@chello.nl> wrote in message
>>> news:jgoUi.7171$Hv4.3372@amstwist00...
>>>> ultrakit schreef:
>>>>> Hi, I'm a new SEO learner, any replies are greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a client who INSIST a splash page with only 3 links. My worry
>>>>> is that SE will not pick up the site as there is no content. My first
>>>>> thought is to have at least a 1 line description for each page so
>>>>> there are text and visitor will have a sense of what they will get on
>>>>> the page. Client finally agrees but need to content to be hidden
>>>>> until the link has been click.
>>>>>
>>>>> My solution is to have multi content block but hide them. Code as
>>>>> follow but I'm afraid since the text is hidden, it's consider as
>>>>> spamming / cloaking?
>>>> [snip code]
>>>>
>>>> One simple answer: YES
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://www.uksmallbusinessdirectory....es/hidden.html
>> Quality guidelines - basic principles
>>
>> * Make pages for users, not for search engines.
>>
>
> Does that mean yes or no?

What do you think?

The pages OP wants to make are made to serve the engines, because his
client wants a splash page with no other content on it than a link.


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"Tonnie Lubbers" <t.prasing@chello.nl> wrote in message
news:fqqUi.7201$Hv4.5846@amstwist00...
> T.J. schreef:
>> "Tonnie Lubbers" <t.prasing@chello.nl> wrote in message
>> news:V2qUi.7196$Hv4.5540@amstwist00...
>>> T.J. schreef:
>>>> "Tonnie Lubbers" <t.prasing@chello.nl> wrote in message
>>>> news:jgoUi.7171$Hv4.3372@amstwist00...
>>>>> ultrakit schreef:
>>>>>> Hi, I'm a new SEO learner, any replies are greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a client who INSIST a splash page with only 3 links. My worry
>>>>>> is that SE will not pick up the site as there is no content. My
>>>>>> first
>>>>>> thought is to have at least a 1 line description for each page so
>>>>>> there are text and visitor will have a sense of what they will get on
>>>>>> the page. Client finally agrees but need to content to be hidden
>>>>>> until the link has been click.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My solution is to have multi content block but hide them. Code as
>>>>>> follow but I'm afraid since the text is hidden, it's consider as
>>>>>> spamming / cloaking?
>>>>> [snip code]
>>>>>
>>>>> One simple answer: YES
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> http://www.uksmallbusinessdirectory....es/hidden.html
>>> Quality guidelines - basic principles
>>>
>>> * Make pages for users, not for search engines.
>>>
>>
>> Does that mean yes or no?
>
> What do you think?
>
> The pages OP wants to make are made to serve the engines, because his
> client wants a splash page with no other content on it than a link.
>
>

Sorry, I'm not arguing, just want to know your views.

Quote from the OP,

"My first thought is to have at least a 1 line description for each page so
there are text and visitor will have a sense of what they will get on
the page."

My example seems to provide a pretty legitimate way of achieving this.
As long as it isn't just keyword stuffed and there to trick the engines
why would Google object?

Do you think my page is against the guidelines?

T.J. schreef:
> "Tonnie Lubbers" <t.prasing@chello.nl> wrote in message
> news:fqqUi.7201$Hv4.5846@amstwist00...
>> T.J. schreef:
>>> "Tonnie Lubbers" <t.prasing@chello.nl> wrote in message
>>> news:V2qUi.7196$Hv4.5540@amstwist00...
>>>> T.J. schreef:
>>>>> "Tonnie Lubbers" <t.prasing@chello.nl> wrote in message
>>>>> news:jgoUi.7171$Hv4.3372@amstwist00...
>>>>>> ultrakit schreef:
>>>>>>> Hi, I'm a new SEO learner, any replies are greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a client who INSIST a splash page with only 3 links. My worry
>>>>>>> is that SE will not pick up the site as there is no content. My
>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>> thought is to have at least a 1 line description for each page so
>>>>>>> there are text and visitor will have a sense of what they will get on
>>>>>>> the page. Client finally agrees but need to content to be hidden
>>>>>>> until the link has been click.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My solution is to have multi content block but hide them. Code as
>>>>>>> follow but I'm afraid since the text is hidden, it's consider as
>>>>>>> spamming / cloaking?
>>>>>> [snip code]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One simple answer: YES
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.uksmallbusinessdirectory....es/hidden.html
>>>> Quality guidelines - basic principles
>>>>
>>>> * Make pages for users, not for search engines.
>>>>
>>> Does that mean yes or no?
>> What do you think?
>>
>> The pages OP wants to make are made to serve the engines, because his
>> client wants a splash page with no other content on it than a link.
>>
>>
>
> Sorry, I'm not arguing, just want to know your views.

NP. Just wanted to know for sure what you think. English aint my native
language so i have to ask to be sure or understand.

> Quote from the OP,
>
> "My first thought is to have at least a 1 line description for each page so
> there are text and visitor will have a sense of what they will get on
> the page."
>
> My example seems to provide a pretty legitimate way of achieving this.
> As long as it isn't just keyword stuffed and there to trick the engines
> why would Google object?
>
> Do you think my page is against the guidelines?

If seen as in 'black' and 'white', then yes it is.

If one would like to stretch it a little, it could be on the safe side.
But then again there is that 'could be'.

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I totally agree on the "make site for user not for search engine".
And what does user want?

I've finally convinced my client to have the 1 line descriptions for
each page ALL displaying. We all want to know what we will be getting
right from step 1 right? This gotta be the solution that makes
everyone happy.

ultrakit schreef:
> I totally agree on the "make site for user not for search engine".
> And what does user want?
>
> I've finally convinced my client to have the 1 line descriptions for
> each page ALL displaying. We all want to know what we will be getting
> right from step 1 right? This gotta be the solution that makes
> everyone happy.

Bravo.



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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:14:58 -0000, ultrakit <ultrakit@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I totally agree on the "make site for user not for search engine".
>And what does user want?
>
>I've finally convinced my client to have the 1 line descriptions for
>each page ALL displaying. We all want to know what we will be getting
>right from step 1 right? This gotta be the solution that makes
>everyone happy.

And while you are at it, convince him NOT to have a splash screen.
So 1984 / waste of time / totally pointless to everyone / wastes b/w /
user has to click more times / drives people away / etc etc

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