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Vieux 22/10/2007, 08h47   #1
Mike
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Hi,

I've posted before asking for advice to obtain a better position.
I didn't get many useful replies other than "get more inbound links" etc.

However, after some thinking and various trials I added a site map at the
bottom of the main page.
Result: I went up 9 positions.

So there seems to be room for SEO on my site, so I wonder if you have some
tips?

I rarely use the title attribute. Should I make more use of it? Perhaps the
same with the alt attribute?
But I'm a little bit cautious with these, because I don't want to
overoptimize and get penalized and
I have no idea which density I should go for and which distribution on the
page I should aim for
and if I should use them on all sub pages as well or only the main page? And
where I should test
my distribution, density etc.

Keyword phrase is "vst plugins" but the site has many occurences of the
phrase in singular.
Google added stemming a couple of years ago and then I thought it wouldn't
matter if I used
the plural or singular phrase but apparently it does. Will the singular +
plural occurences
add up and if they're too many, then I'll get penalized?

Any advice? I need tips, please.

(and no flames please)

/Mike
www.mhc.se




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Vieux 22/10/2007, 09h43   #2
mark r
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On Oct 22, 8:47 am, "Mike" <m...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've posted before asking for advice to obtain a better position.
> I didn't get many useful replies other than "get more inbound links" etc.
>
> However, after some thinking and various trials I added a site map at the
> bottom of the main page.
> Result: I went up 9 positions.
>
> So there seems to be room for SEO on my site, so I wonder if you have some
> tips?
>
> I rarely use the title attribute. Should I make more use of it? Perhaps the
> same with the alt attribute?
> But I'm a little bit cautious with these, because I don't want to
> overoptimize and get penalized and
> I have no idea which density I should go for and which distribution on the
> page I should aim for
> and if I should use them on all sub pages as well or only the main page? And
> where I should test
> my distribution, density etc.
>
> Keyword phrase is "vst plugins" but the site has many occurences of the
> phrase in singular.
> Google added stemming a couple of years ago and then I thought it wouldn't
> matter if I used
> the plural or singular phrase but apparently it does. Will the singular +
> plural occurences
> add up and if they're too many, then I'll get penalized?
>
> Any advice? I need tips, please.
>
> (and no flames please)
>
> /Mikewww.mhc.se


do a check for 'linkhounds hub finder' and enter your site and 9
competitors n you can see what ibl's you share in comon and what needs
to be looked into'

mark
www.ihype.co.uk

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Vieux 22/10/2007, 13h13   #3
Big Bill
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 07:47:56 GMT, "Mike" <mike@nospam.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I've posted before asking for advice to obtain a better position.
>I didn't get many useful replies other than "get more inbound links" etc.
>
>However, after some thinking and various trials I added a site map at the
>bottom of the main page.
>Result: I went up 9 positions.


Were you lacking a navigation menu before?

>So there seems to be room for SEO on my site, so I wonder if you have some
>tips?
>
>I rarely use the title attribute.


You mean <title></title>? Yes, each page needs one. If you mean the
meta title whicvh is something like meta name="title" content= yada
yada" then no, don't use it.

> Should I make more use of it? Perhaps the
>same with the alt attribute?


I always do, except with spacer tags. Some graphics can usefully be
made into links, giving more weight to the alt text.

>But I'm a little bit cautious with these, because I don't want to
>overoptimize and get penalized and


Oh good grief, don't worry about that. Is your site content good?
Genuinely useful for visitors? You won't get penalised for optimising
it then.

>I have no idea which density I should go for and which distribution on the
>page I should aim for
>and if I should use them on all sub pages as well or only the main page? And
>where I should test
>my distribution, density etc.


Simply put them where they make sense in the context.

>Keyword phrase is "vst plugins" but the site has many occurences of the
>phrase in singular.
>Google added stemming a couple of years ago and then I thought it wouldn't
>matter if I used
>the plural or singular phrase but apparently it does. Will the singular +
>plural occurences
>add up and if they're too many, then I'll get penalized?


Go around all the music forums leaving useful and knowledgable
comments and put vst plugins in your sig. That'll get you visitors and
from them you'll get natural links. I'm thinking you'll be more comfy
with that approach than anything else.

BB
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Vieux 22/10/2007, 14h06   #4
Andrew Heenan
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"Mike" <mike@nospam.com> wrote ...
> I rarely use the title attribute. Should I make more use of it? Perhaps
> the same with the alt attribute? But I'm a little bit cautious with these,
> because I don't want to overoptimize and get penalized and I have
> no idea which density I should go for and which distribution on the
> page I should aim for and if I should use them on all sub pages as
> well or only the main page? And where I should test
> my distribution, density etc.


Attributes, used correctly, can your site considerably; similarly, if
overused or abuse, they can hurt.

Read up on correct use before you put the work in.

there's a lot of rubbish talked about keyword density; broadly, if it makes
sense it's OK, and maybe you could use a couple more instead of pronouns.

Never forget Quadrille's Oft-Quoted Eighth Law:
"If your use of key words looks silly - it almost certainly is".

Search engines set out to emulate the user experience; as keyword counting
is not difficult for computer programs, you can be confident that SEs will
notice 'excessive' use of key words or phrases. SEs look at the whole page -
all the shared copy, links etc., as well as that page's 'unique content'.
--

Andrew
http://www.seo2seo.com/
http://www.sick-site-syndrome.com/
First things first - but not necessarily in that order.

The video that makes YouTube worthwhile:
Charlie The Unicorn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus



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Vieux 22/10/2007, 14h54   #5
Mike
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> Were you lacking a navigation menu before?

Not really. But the navigation was distributed over the top, left and right
sections of the main page.
As you can see here: www.mhc.se.

> >I rarely use the title attribute.

>
> You mean <title></title>?


No, the title attribute, not the title element. For example <a
href='whatever' title='this link leads to...'>bla bla</a>

> Go around all the music forums leaving useful and knowledgable
> comments and put vst plugins in your sig. That'll get you visitors and
> from them you'll get natural links. I'm thinking you'll be more comfy
> with that approach than anything else.


I think so too, but unfortunately it's a bit time consuming and some would
prefer it as spammy.

Mike
www.mhc.se






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Vieux 22/10/2007, 14h54   #6
Mike
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> "If your use of key words looks silly - it almost certainly is".

That's a good rule

> Search engines set out to emulate the user experience; as keyword counting
> is not difficult for computer programs, you can be confident that SEs will
> notice 'excessive' use of key words or phrases. SEs look at the whole

page -
> all the shared copy, links etc., as well as that page's 'unique content'.


Thanks
Mike
www.mhc.se



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Vieux 22/10/2007, 14h59   #7
The Gobbling Goblin
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:54:38 GMT, "Mike" <mike@nospam.com> wrote:

>> "If your use of key words looks silly - it almost certainly is".

>
>That's a good rule
>
>> Search engines set out to emulate the user experience; as keyword counting
>> is not difficult for computer programs, you can be confident that SEs will
>> notice 'excessive' use of key words or phrases. SEs look at the whole

>page -
>> all the shared copy, links etc., as well as that page's 'unique content'.

>
>Thanks
>Mike
>www.mhc.se
>
>

I had a quick look Mike,
You have two h1 on yor homepage [should have one]
and yet no h1 at all on other pages.

plh
Paul


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Vieux 22/10/2007, 16h43   #8
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> I had a quick look Mike,
> You have two h1 on yor homepage [should have one]
> and yet no h1 at all on other pages.
>
> plh
> Paul


Interesting. Is it a well known fact that Google etc. want only one h1?

I'll have a look at the headings on the other pages as well.

Many thanks, Paul, for pointing it out.
Mike
www.mhc.se



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Vieux 23/10/2007, 11h40   #9
The Gobbling Goblin
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:43:26 GMT, "Mike" <mike@nospam.com> wrote:

>
>> I had a quick look Mike,
>> You have two h1 on yor homepage [should have one]
>> and yet no h1 at all on other pages.
>>
>> plh
>> Paul

>
>Interesting. Is it a well known fact that Google etc. want only one h1?


I do not know. But you should only use one h1 per page. I did have a
tool that checked for you, but lost all my favourites in a HDD crash.

I did find this though :

http://www. visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=1569

And you can google "header ordering" which may more.


>I'll have a look at the headings on the other pages as well.
>
>Many thanks, Paul, for pointing it out.
>Mike
>www.mhc.se


No problem.
plh
Paul


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