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Vieux 10/10/2007, 22h01   #1
massive.entity@googlemail.com
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Hi,
I want to set up a website with a search engine that allows user to
enter certain criteria and the search engine will search ceretain
specific sites and return the results.
The sites I want to search are free but sometimes requirre a user to
log in.
Am I allowed to take their content and return it to the searcher?
Second question, is there such a thing as a search engine template
that I can adapt to this project or does it have to be built from
scratch?

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Vieux 11/10/2007, 12h33   #2
Mike
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> The sites I want to search are free but sometimes requirre a user to
> log in.
> Am I allowed to take their content and return it to the searcher?


No.

> Second question, is there such a thing as a search engine template
> that I can adapt to this project or does it have to be built from
> scratch?


Google has the tools for you.




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Vieux 11/10/2007, 15h28   #3
mark r
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On Oct 11, 12:33 pm, "Mike" <m...@nospam.com> wrote:
> > The sites I want to search are free but sometimes requirre a user to
> > log in.
> > Am I allowed to take their content and return it to the searcher?

>
> No.
>
> > Second question, is there such a thing as a search engine template
> > that I can adapt to this project or does it have to be built from
> > scratch?

>
> Google has the tools for you.


SCRAPE!

mark
www.neue.co.uk

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Vieux 11/10/2007, 16h27   #4
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So if a site requires you to make an account (even for free) then
login... all their content cannot be searchable to the public?

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Vieux 12/10/2007, 10h00   #5
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<massive.entity@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1192116446.720590.38480@o80g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
> So if a site requires you to make an account (even for free) then
> login... all their content cannot be searchable to the public?


If an SE spider cannot access your pages, then the SE cannot index them.

Spiders are stopped by the same barriers as people. But they cannot
register - and won't buy registration.

There are ways of making your content available to SEs, but that's up to
you. If you block access to a page, then you block spiders in the 'normal'
routine.
--

Andrew
http://www.seo2seo.com/
http://www.sick-site-syndrome.com/
First things first - but not necessarily in that order.

The video that makes YouTube worthwhile:
Charlie The Unicorn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus


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Vieux 12/10/2007, 10h15   #6
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On 10 oct, 17:01, massive.ent...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Hi,
> I want to set up a website with a search engine that allows user to
> enter certain criteria and the search engine will search ceretain
> specific sites and return the results.
> The sites I want to search are free but sometimes requirre a user to
> log in.
> Am I allowed to take their content and return it to the searcher?
> Second question, is there such a thing as a search engine template
> that I can adapt to this project or does it have to be built from
> scratch?


A few months ago I found a code that gave me, at last, the possibility
to create an internal site engine powered by Google. I put it on every
one of my sites and it works !. Here is the code:

<form method=get action=http://www.google.com/custom
class="google_form">
<div align="center">
<input class="google_box" type=text name=q maxlength="50"
value="" />
<input name="submit" type="submit" value="Rechercher" />
<input type=hidden name=domains value="http://
www.dicocf.ca" />
<input type=hidden name=sitesearch value="http://
www.dicocf.ca" checked />
<input type=hidden name=meta value="lr=lang_fr" />
</div>
</form>

You could check on one of my site where it is very usefull: http://www.dicocf.ca

Enjoy !

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Vieux 12/10/2007, 11h17   #7
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"mariol" <histoire.du.quebec@gmail.com> wrote:
> A few months ago I found a code that gave me, at last, the possibility
> to create an internal site engine powered by Google. I put it on every
> one of my sites and it works !. Here is the code:


You'd be most unwise to use code from anywhere except Google itself, as it
will break their TOS - especially if it has been altered from the official
code.

It's really not sensible to place on your site - the one you want Google to
index - some code that will upset Google.

Think about it ;o)
--

Andrew
http://www.seo2seo.com/
http://www.sick-site-syndrome.com/
First things first - but not necessarily in that order.

The video that makes YouTube worthwhile:
Charlie The Unicorn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus


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Vieux 12/10/2007, 13h24   #8
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OK, what if I have a spider that can access the site via an account
(or number of accts) then i create copy of their data on my server,
which my searchers will access. If possible is this somehow illegal?



On Oct 12, 5:00 am, "Andrew Heenan" <andr...@heenan.net> wrote:
> <massive.ent...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1192116446.720590.38480@o80g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > So if a site requires you to make an account (even for free) then
> > login... all their content cannot be searchable to the public?

>
> If an SE spider cannot access your pages, then the SE cannot index them.
>
> Spiders are stopped by the same barriers as people. But they cannot
> register - and won't buy registration.
>
> There are ways of making your content available to SEs, but that's up to
> you. If you block access to a page, then you block spiders in the 'normal'
> routine.
> --
>
> Andrewhttp://www.seo2seo.com/http://www.sick-site-syndrome.com/
> First things first - but not necessarily in that order.
>
> The video that makes YouTube worthwhile:
> Charlie The Unicorn -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus



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