white text on the main page

10/10/2007, 20h09

Hello!

Can you write me if white text on the main page takes part in indexing by
robots? I mean white by setting the css style="color:white", the same as
background color of my page.
If so, is it possible to place some long text which is not visible on the
page but is placed on the web page. I would like to do so to take this text
into account by robots. Which html tag and which way should I use then?

Thank you
Marcin

10/10/2007, 20h23

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:09:30 +0200, "MZ"
<marcinzmyslowski@poczta.onet.pl> wrote:

>Hello!
>
>Can you write me if white text on the main page takes part in indexing by
>robots? I mean white by setting the css style="color:white", the same as
>background color of my page.
>If so, is it possible to place some long text which is not visible on the
>page but is placed on the web page. I would like to do so to take this text
>into account by robots. Which html tag and which way should I use then?
>
>Thank you
>Marcin
>

If I read your English correctly, what you want is to fool the search
engines.

This is black hat and should be avoided UNLESS you want your site
penalize.

Sorry, I do not blackhatters.

plh
Paul

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10/10/2007, 20h43

> If I read your English correctly, what you want is to fool the search
> engines.
>
> This is black hat and should be avoided UNLESS you want your site
> penalize.
>
> Sorry, I do not blackhatters.
>
> plh
> Paul

OK sorry I didn`t know I think wrong.
I didn`t know it is forbidden.
So I will do it in the correct way

Marcin

10/10/2007, 20h45

"MZ" wrote...
> Can you write me if white text on the main page takes part in indexing by
> robots? I mean white by setting the css style="color:white", the same as
> background color of my page.
> If so, is it possible to place some long text which is not visible on the
> page but is placed on the web page. I would like to do so to take this
> text into account by robots. Which html tag and which way should I use
> then?

Why?

10/10/2007, 20h53

U¿ytkownik "Andrew Heenan" <andrew3@heenan.net> napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
news:9Z9Pi.75713$j16.43099@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
> "MZ" wrote...
>> Can you write me if white text on the main page takes part in indexing by
>> robots? I mean white by setting the css style="color:white", the same as
>> background color of my page.
>> If so, is it possible to place some long text which is not visible on the
>> page but is placed on the web page. I would like to do so to take this
>> text into account by robots. Which html tag and which way should I use
>> then?
>
> Why?
>

I wanted to avoid such situation which show me this text on the beginning of
the <body> tag.
I have been reading a book about web search positioning and I have read that
robots give
more wages (that is points in ranking) key words placed in the beginning of
the <body> tag.
I also thought that this text will not be in good composition of my rest web
structure.

Marcin

10/10/2007, 21h05

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:09:30 +0200, "MZ"
<marcinzmyslowski@poczta.onet.pl> wrote:

>Hello!
>
>Can you write me if white text on the main page takes part in indexing by
>robots? I mean white by setting the css style="color:white", the same as
>background color of my page.
>If so, is it possible to place some long text which is not visible on the
>page but is placed on the web page. I would like to do so to take this text
>into account by robots. Which html tag and which way should I use then?
>
>Thank you
>Marcin

you'd very likely find yourself in trouble, using text the same colour
as the background is an old spam trick. Your intention may well not be
spamming but will be perceived as such. Best not to do it.

BB
--

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http://www.kruse.co.uk/close-ended-questions.htm
http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-software-review.htm

11/10/2007, 11h15

"MZ" <marcinzmyslowski@poczta.onet.pl> wrote...
> I wanted to avoid such situation which show me this text
> on the beginning of the <body> tag.
> I have been reading a book about web search positioning
> and I have read that robots give
> more wages (that is points in ranking) key words placed
> in the beginning of the <body> tag.
> I also thought that this text will not be in good composition
> of my rest web structure.

The advice you read actually worked for a while in 1998 - but since then the
search engines have learned to recognise such obvious attempts to cheat, and
have changed the result - not promotion, but a ban.

A much better way to get good search engine results is to build a better
site!

But you can your site by learning how search engines work, and avoiding
errors.

Stick around, but be careful and don't believe everything you read ;o)

--

Andrew
http://www.seo2seo.com/
http://www.sick-site-syndrome.com/
First things first - but not necessarily in that order.

The video that makes YouTube worthwhile:
Charlie The Unicorn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus

11/10/2007, 13h23

> Can you write me if white text on the main page takes part in indexing by
> robots? I mean white by setting the css style="color:white", the same as
> background color of my page.

Take a look at http://www.thequattroworkshop.co.uk

Once the page has loaded, do a CTRL-A or drag your mouse across the
page. See the hidden text?

Now do this search:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=xx...op.co.uk&meta=

That's what happens - the site is banned from Google's index.

11/10/2007, 15h30

On Oct 11, 1:23 pm, Phil Payne <p...@isham-research.co.uk> wrote:
> > Can you write me if white text on the main page takes part in indexing by
> > robots? I mean white by setting the css style="color:white", the same as
> > background color of my page.
>
> Take a look athttp://www.thequattroworkshop.co.uk
>
> Once the page has loaded, do a CTRL-A or drag your mouse across the
> page. See the hidden text?
>
> Now do this search:
>
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=xx...%3A%2F%2Fwww.t...
>
> That's what happens - the site is banned from Google's index.

lol

<noscript>
<h1><a href="foo.htm">KEYWORD</a></h1>
<h1><a href="foo2.htm">KEYWORD2</a></h1>
<h1><a href="foo3.htm">KEYWORD3</a></h1>
<h1><a href="foo4.htm">KEYWORD4</a></h1>
<h1><a href="foo5.htm">KEYWORD5</a></h1>
<h1><a href="foo6.htm">KEYWORD6</a></h1>
</noscript>

got me banned back in 00 lol!

mark

11/10/2007, 20h43

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:23:50 -0700, Phil Payne
<phil@isham-research.co.uk> wrote:

>> Can you write me if white text on the main page takes part in indexing by
>> robots? I mean white by setting the css style="color:white", the same as
>> background color of my page.
>
>Take a look at http://www.thequattroworkshop.co.uk
>
>Once the page has loaded, do a CTRL-A or drag your mouse across the
>page. See the hidden text?
>
>Now do this search:
>
>http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=xx...op.co.uk&meta=
>
>That's what happens - the site is banned from Google's index.

I can't see why it would be banned for that. Penalised, maybe. I'm
inclined to think there's more to it.

BB
--

http://www.fat-odin.com/
http://www.kruse.co.uk/close-ended-questions.htm
http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-software-review.htm

11/10/2007, 20h43

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:30:23 -0000, mark r <markrush@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Oct 11, 1:23 pm, Phil Payne <p...@isham-research.co.uk> wrote:
>> > Can you write me if white text on the main page takes part in indexing by
>> > robots? I mean white by setting the css style="color:white", the same as
>> > background color of my page.
>>
>> Take a look athttp://www.thequattroworkshop.co.uk
>>
>> Once the page has loaded, do a CTRL-A or drag your mouse across the
>> page. See the hidden text?
>>
>> Now do this search:
>>
>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=xx...%3A%2F%2Fwww.t...
>>
>> That's what happens - the site is banned from Google's index.
>
>lol
>
><noscript>
><h1><a href="foo.htm">KEYWORD</a></h1>
><h1><a href="foo2.htm">KEYWORD2</a></h1>
><h1><a href="foo3.htm">KEYWORD3</a></h1>
><h1><a href="foo4.htm">KEYWORD4</a></h1>
><h1><a href="foo5.htm">KEYWORD5</a></h1>
><h1><a href="foo6.htm">KEYWORD6</a></h1>
></noscript>
>
>got me banned back in 00 lol!
>
>mark

Banned or shunted down the rankings?

BB
--

http://www.fat-odin.com/
http://www.kruse.co.uk/close-ended-questions.htm
http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-software-review.htm

10/10/2007, 20h23	#2
The Gobbling Goblin Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: white text on the main page On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:09:30 +0200, "MZ" <marcinzmyslowski@poczta.onet.pl> wrote: >Hello! > >Can you write me if white text on the main page takes part in indexing by >robots? I mean white by setting the css style="color:white", the same as >background color of my page. >If so, is it possible to place some long text which is not visible on the >page but is placed on the web page. I would like to do so to take this text >into account by robots. Which html tag and which way should I use then? > >Thank you >Marcin > If I read your English correctly, what you want is to fool the search engines. This is black hat and should be avoided UNLESS you want your site penalize. Sorry, I do not blackhatters. plh Paul ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----

10/10/2007, 20h43	#3
MZ Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: white text on the main page > If I read your English correctly, what you want is to fool the search > engines. > > This is black hat and should be avoided UNLESS you want your site > penalize. > > Sorry, I do not blackhatters. > > plh > Paul OK sorry I didn`t know I think wrong. I didn`t know it is forbidden. So I will do it in the correct way Marcin

10/10/2007, 20h45	#4
Andrew Heenan Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: white text on the main page "MZ" wrote... > Can you write me if white text on the main page takes part in indexing by > robots? I mean white by setting the css style="color:white", the same as > background color of my page. > If so, is it possible to place some long text which is not visible on the > page but is placed on the web page. I would like to do so to take this > text into account by robots. Which html tag and which way should I use > then? Why?

10/10/2007, 20h53	#5
MZ Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: white text on the main page U¿ytkownik "Andrew Heenan" <andrew3@heenan.net> napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci news:9Z9Pi.75713$j16.43099@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net... > "MZ" wrote... >> Can you write me if white text on the main page takes part in indexing by >> robots? I mean white by setting the css style="color:white", the same as >> background color of my page. >> If so, is it possible to place some long text which is not visible on the >> page but is placed on the web page. I would like to do so to take this >> text into account by robots. Which html tag and which way should I use >> then? > > Why? > I wanted to avoid such situation which show me this text on the beginning of the <body> tag. I have been reading a book about web search positioning and I have read that robots give more wages (that is points in ranking) key words placed in the beginning of the <body> tag. I also thought that this text will not be in good composition of my rest web structure. Marcin

10/10/2007, 21h05	#6
Big Bill Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: white text on the main page On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:09:30 +0200, "MZ" <marcinzmyslowski@poczta.onet.pl> wrote: >Hello! > >Can you write me if white text on the main page takes part in indexing by >robots? I mean white by setting the css style="color:white", the same as >background color of my page. >If so, is it possible to place some long text which is not visible on the >page but is placed on the web page. I would like to do so to take this text >into account by robots. Which html tag and which way should I use then? > >Thank you >Marcin you'd very likely find yourself in trouble, using text the same colour as the background is an old spam trick. Your intention may well not be spamming but will be perceived as such. Best not to do it. BB -- http://www.fat-odin.com/ http://www.kruse.co.uk/close-ended-questions.htm http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-software-review.htm

10/10/2007, 20h09	#1
MZ Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	white text on the main page Hello! Can you write me if white text on the main page takes part in indexing by robots? I mean white by setting the css style="color:white", the same as background color of my page. If so, is it possible to place some long text which is not visible on the page but is placed on the web page. I would like to do so to take this text into account by robots. Which html tag and which way should I use then? Thank you Marcin

11/10/2007, 11h15	#7
Andrew Heenan Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: white text on the main page "MZ" <marcinzmyslowski@poczta.onet.pl> wrote... > I wanted to avoid such situation which show me this text > on the beginning of the <body> tag. > I have been reading a book about web search positioning > and I have read that robots give > more wages (that is points in ranking) key words placed > in the beginning of the <body> tag. > I also thought that this text will not be in good composition > of my rest web structure. The advice you read actually worked for a while in 1998 - but since then the search engines have learned to recognise such obvious attempts to cheat, and have changed the result - not promotion, but a ban. A much better way to get good search engine results is to build a better site! But you can your site by learning how search engines work, and avoiding errors. Stick around, but be careful and don't believe everything you read ;o) -- Andrew http://www.seo2seo.com/ http://www.sick-site-syndrome.com/ First things first - but not necessarily in that order. The video that makes YouTube worthwhile: Charlie The Unicorn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus

11/10/2007, 13h23	#8
Phil Payne Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: white text on the main page > Can you write me if white text on the main page takes part in indexing by > robots? I mean white by setting the css style="color:white", the same as > background color of my page. Take a look at http://www.thequattroworkshop.co.uk Once the page has loaded, do a CTRL-A or drag your mouse across the page. See the hidden text? Now do this search: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=xx...op.co.uk&meta= That's what happens - the site is banned from Google's index.

11/10/2007, 15h30	#9
mark r Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: white text on the main page On Oct 11, 1:23 pm, Phil Payne <p...@isham-research.co.uk> wrote: > > Can you write me if white text on the main page takes part in indexing by > > robots? I mean white by setting the css style="color:white", the same as > > background color of my page. > > Take a look athttp://www.thequattroworkshop.co.uk > > Once the page has loaded, do a CTRL-A or drag your mouse across the > page. See the hidden text? > > Now do this search: > > http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=xx...%3A%2F%2Fwww.t... > > That's what happens - the site is banned from Google's index. lol <noscript> <h1><a href="foo.htm">KEYWORD</a></h1> <h1><a href="foo2.htm">KEYWORD2</a></h1> <h1><a href="foo3.htm">KEYWORD3</a></h1> <h1><a href="foo4.htm">KEYWORD4</a></h1> <h1><a href="foo5.htm">KEYWORD5</a></h1> <h1><a href="foo6.htm">KEYWORD6</a></h1> </noscript> got me banned back in 00 lol! mark

11/10/2007, 20h43	#10
Big Bill Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: white text on the main page On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:23:50 -0700, Phil Payne <phil@isham-research.co.uk> wrote: >> Can you write me if white text on the main page takes part in indexing by >> robots? I mean white by setting the css style="color:white", the same as >> background color of my page. > >Take a look at http://www.thequattroworkshop.co.uk > >Once the page has loaded, do a CTRL-A or drag your mouse across the >page. See the hidden text? > >Now do this search: > >http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=xx...op.co.uk&meta= > >That's what happens - the site is banned from Google's index. I can't see why it would be banned for that. Penalised, maybe. I'm inclined to think there's more to it. BB -- http://www.fat-odin.com/ http://www.kruse.co.uk/close-ended-questions.htm http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-software-review.htm

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