I expect we all know that PR didn't get updated this time around - but
it looks like some sites did. I read at Digital Point where they are PR
thread crazy and there is always a thread starting up PR UPDATE as they
have noticed that one site they go to has PR updated and everyone looks
on their own sites and nothing has changed.

Well, today I notice statcounter.com is down from PR9 to PR8 - again, no
changes at all on my own sites. So what's the deal with this? Why are
some sites getting PR updates and the rest of us not? Any ideas?

Jez.

Jez wrote:
>
> I expect we all know that PR didn't get updated this time around - but
> it looks like some sites did. I read at Digital Point where they are PR
> thread crazy and there is always a thread starting up PR UPDATE as they
> have noticed that one site they go to has PR updated and everyone looks
> on their own sites and nothing has changed.
>
> Well, today I notice statcounter.com is down from PR9 to PR8 - again, no
> changes at all on my own sites. So what's the deal with this? Why are
> some sites getting PR updates and the rest of us not? Any ideas?
>
> Jez.
>
That's because PR is no longer a major player any longer so Google is in
no hurry to update it. I think from now on we're looking at maybe once a
year updates if we're lucky. The big factor now is blogs and dynamic
pages, lots of dynamic pages with wierd url addresses that end in
/blog/?p=18, thousand of them created at many sites and all the pages
having links to the target site you want ranked high up. That's the
current google algo and big seo secret. There's your so called 'content
is king' and what it's really all about. If the general seo population
all caught on and started doing that, in the same way that the general
seo population today all know about anchor text in links, h1 headers
etc, then PR would make a big comeback again as it would become
neccessary to differentiate sites in order to rank them and only PR
would be left to do that if everyone caught onto dynamic pages and their
seo purpose in the google algo.

Sam wrote:
> Jez wrote:
>> I expect we all know that PR didn't get updated this time around - but

> That's because PR is no longer a major player any longer so Google is in
> no hurry to update it.

Hi Sam,

So if they are in no hurry to update PR then why have /some/ sites been
updated - such as statcounter.com but the majority not?

Jez.

Jez wrote:
>
> Sam wrote:
> > Jez wrote:
> >> I expect we all know that PR didn't get updated this time around - but
>
> > That's because PR is no longer a major player any longer so Google is in
> > no hurry to update it.
>
> Hi Sam,
>
> So if they are in no hurry to update PR then why have /some/ sites been
> updated - such as statcounter.com but the majority not?
>
> Jez.
>
The only sites they're updating are new ones that had no PR and really
big sites like statcounter. Everyone else can forget about seeing it
updated very often, maybe once a year so that means next pr and
backlinks update will occur next spring sometime.

"Sam" <sam@mail.com> wrote in message news:4702D293.3A86@mail.com...
> Jez wrote:
>>
>> Sam wrote:
>> > Jez wrote:
>> >> I expect we all know that PR didn't get updated this time around - but
>>
>> > That's because PR is no longer a major player any longer so Google is
>> > in
>> > no hurry to update it.
>>
>> Hi Sam,
>>
>> So if they are in no hurry to update PR then why have /some/ sites been
>> updated - such as statcounter.com but the majority not?
>>
>> Jez.
>>
> The only sites they're updating are new ones that had no PR and really
> big sites like statcounter. Everyone else can forget about seeing it
> updated very often, maybe once a year so that means next pr and
> backlinks update will occur next spring sometime.

Whilst I understand how we on this group find page rank useful, I'd like to
know more about how knowing Google PR of a page benefits :-

a) The Visitor (They don't know the PR until they land, so didn't affect
their choice).
b) Google (Many webmasters and SEO invest - or waste- a massive amount of
time creating backlinks and tweaking pages, which can lead to content which
is not best for the human visitor.

Surely a good measure for your importance in Google for a given search term
is simply your position in the results ?
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Rich wrote:
> "Sam" <sam@mail.com> wrote in message news:4702D293.3A86@mail.com...
>> Jez wrote:
>>> Sam wrote:
>>>> Jez wrote:
>>>>> I expect we all know that PR didn't get updated this time around - but
>>>> That's because PR is no longer a major player any longer so Google is
>>>> in
>>>> no hurry to update it.
>>> Hi Sam,
>>>
>>> So if they are in no hurry to update PR then why have /some/ sites been
>>> updated - such as statcounter.com but the majority not?
>>>
>>> Jez.
>>>
>> The only sites they're updating are new ones that had no PR and really
>> big sites like statcounter. Everyone else can forget about seeing it
>> updated very often, maybe once a year so that means next pr and
>> backlinks update will occur next spring sometime.
>
> Whilst I understand how we on this group find page rank useful, I'd like to
> know more about how knowing Google PR of a page benefits :-
>
> a) The Visitor (They don't know the PR until they land, so didn't affect
> their choice).
> b) Google (Many webmasters and SEO invest - or waste- a massive amount of
> time creating backlinks and tweaking pages, which can lead to content which
> is not best for the human visitor.
>
> Surely a good measure for your importance in Google for a given search term
> is simply your position in the results ?
> --
> Rich
> http://www.richdavies.com/web-sudoku.htm
> http://www.copyright-band.com
>
>
>

I agree. But how will google do away with it without losing face and
publicly admitting that they were wrong to ever disclose PR?

PR was partly due to google's meteoric rise and may be their downfall also.

PR has been a major contributor to spam on the net - though maybe not as
much as adsense!

Jez.

On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:45:29 +0100, Jez <j.ez@virgin.net> wrote:

>
>
>Rich wrote:
>> "Sam" <sam@mail.com> wrote in message news:4702D293.3A86@mail.com...
>>> Jez wrote:
>>>> Sam wrote:
>>>>> Jez wrote:
>>>>>> I expect we all know that PR didn't get updated this time around - but
>>>>> That's because PR is no longer a major player any longer so Google is
>>>>> in
>>>>> no hurry to update it.
>>>> Hi Sam,
>>>>
>>>> So if they are in no hurry to update PR then why have /some/ sites been
>>>> updated - such as statcounter.com but the majority not?
>>>>
>>>> Jez.
>>>>
>>> The only sites they're updating are new ones that had no PR and really
>>> big sites like statcounter. Everyone else can forget about seeing it
>>> updated very often, maybe once a year so that means next pr and
>>> backlinks update will occur next spring sometime.
>>
>> Whilst I understand how we on this group find page rank useful, I'd like to
>> know more about how knowing Google PR of a page benefits :-
>>
>> a) The Visitor (They don't know the PR until they land, so didn't affect
>> their choice).
>> b) Google (Many webmasters and SEO invest - or waste- a massive amount of
>> time creating backlinks and tweaking pages, which can lead to content which
>> is not best for the human visitor.
>>
>> Surely a good measure for your importance in Google for a given search term
>> is simply your position in the results ?
>> --
>> Rich
>> http://www.richdavies.com/web-sudoku.htm
>> http://www.copyright-band.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>I agree. But how will google do away with it without losing face and
>publicly admitting that they were wrong to ever disclose PR?

When did they ever really disclose PR though?

>PR was partly due to google's meteoric rise and may be their downfall also.
>
>PR has been a major contributor to spam on the net - though maybe not as
>much as adsense!

If they got rid of the toolbar it'd mean the end of paid links from
high PR sites. It would make a lot of sense, at least for a time till
the next problem crops up. I'm thinking that surviving from moment to
moment is the best way to go on the web these days.

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