I am experiencing some google weirdness:

Late last year i put up a web page about garlic at my Herb Magic web
site.

The url (which i am going to break here, so no bot can attempt to follow
it, as it is 404) was

huttup-wow-colon-slash-slash herb-magic.com slash garlic.html

This spring -- in late March 2007 -- i decided to break the page into
two parts, one page each for each of two different spcies of garlic.

I wrote two pages, one for the type of garlic that is called common
garlic and in Spanish ajo macho (manly garlic) and one for a species of
shallot-type wild garlic that in Spanish is called ajo japones (Japanese
Garlic).

I deleted the plain garlic url from my site and from the index page to
my site. There are no links to it. It does not exist. It is 404. It is
not pining for the fjords, it is deceased.

Google has refused to believe that this page is gone. It retains a
cached link from March 24, 2007 -- but here's the weird part, although
it has indexed and re-indexed the site several times since then, it has
NEVER picked up the page on ajo japones. It has cahces of the index page
and of many other pages from late May or even more recently, but it
balks at this one garlic page.

WHY?

Who knows?

More to the point, what can i do about it?

Google does not like folks to submit single pages, prefering to do its
own crawls.

But no matter how many times googlebot has crawled and re-indexed the
site, it clings to the corpse of that March 24th page and refuses to
embrace the vivid, living new garlic ajo japones page.

Here is the page that google will not index:

http://www.herb-magic.com/garlic-ajo-japones.html

Any clues?

Any hope?

Is google a vampire and garlic its nemesis?

Waiting for an answer, i remain, the garlic queen of Forestville,

cat yonwode
http://www.herb-magic.com/garlic-ajo-japones.html
garlic ajo japones at herb-magic.com

"catherine yronwode" <cat@herb-magic.com> wrote in message
news:467A3CE5.827F5225@herb-magic.com...
>I am experiencing some google weirdness:

> Here is the page that google will not index:
>
> http://www.herb-magic.com/garlic-ajo-japones.html
>
> Any clues?
>
> Any hope?
>
> Is google a vampire and garlic its nemesis?
>
> Waiting for an answer, i remain, the garlic queen of Forestville,
>

http://209.85.135.104/search?&q=cach...o-japones.html

> Is google a vampire and garlic its nemesis?

If that were true, it wouldn't be hanging on the old one so
tenaciously.

I can't see an obvious reason - but just in case ...

Your custom 404 page returns a proper 404 server code, but the title
says it's a 401 Not Authorized response.

I dunno. Straws were created to be clutched at.

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:55:02 -0800, catherine yronwode
<cat@herb-magic.com> wrote:

>I am experiencing some google weirdness:
>
> Late last year i put up a web page about garlic at my Herb Magic web
>site.
>
>The url (which i am going to break here, so no bot can attempt to follow
>it, as it is 404) was
>
>huttup-wow-colon-slash-slash herb-magic.com slash garlic.html
>
>This spring -- in late March 2007 -- i decided to break the page into
>two parts, one page each for each of two different spcies of garlic.
>
>I wrote two pages, one for the type of garlic that is called common
>garlic and in Spanish ajo macho (manly garlic) and one for a species of
>shallot-type wild garlic that in Spanish is called ajo japones (Japanese
>Garlic).
>
>I deleted the plain garlic url from my site and from the index page to
>my site. There are no links to it. It does not exist. It is 404. It is
>not pining for the fjords, it is deceased.
>
>Google has refused to believe that this page is gone. It retains a
>cached link from March 24, 2007 -- but here's the weird part, although
>it has indexed and re-indexed the site several times since then, it has
>NEVER picked up the page on ajo japones. It has cahces of the index page
>and of many other pages from late May or even more recently, but it
>balks at this one garlic page.
>
>WHY?
>
>Who knows?
>
>More to the point, what can i do about it?

Use the url removal tool.

BB
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On Jun 21, 4:55 am, catherine yronwode <c...@herb-magic.com> wrote:
> I am experiencing some google weirdness:
>
> Late last year i put up a web page about garlic at my Herb Magic web
> site.
>
> The url (which i am going to break here, so no bot can attempt to follow
> it, as it is 404) was
>
> huttup-wow-colon-slash-slash herb-magic.com slash garlic.html
>
> This spring -- in late March 2007 -- i decided to break the page into
> two parts, one page each for each of two different spcies of garlic.
>
> I wrote two pages, one for the type of garlic that is called common
> garlic and in Spanish ajo macho (manly garlic) and one for a species of
> shallot-type wild garlic that in Spanish is called ajo japones (Japanese
> Garlic).
>
> I deleted the plain garlic url from my site and from the index page to
> my site. There are no links to it. It does not exist. It is 404. It is
> not pining for the fjords, it is deceased.
>
> Google has refused to believe that this page is gone. It retains a
> cached link from March 24, 2007 -- but here's the weird part, although
> it has indexed and re-indexed the site several times since then, it has
> NEVER picked up the page on ajo japones. It has cahces of the index page
> and of many other pages from late May or even more recently, but it
> balks at this one garlic page.
>
> WHY?
>
> Who knows?
>
> More to the point, what can i do about it?
>
> Google does not like folks to submit single pages, prefering to do its
> own crawls.
>
> But no matter how many times googlebot has crawled and re-indexed the
> site, it clings to the corpse of that March 24th page and refuses to
> embrace the vivid, living new garlic ajo japones page.
>
> Here is the page that google will not index:
>
> http://www.herb-magic.com/garlic-ajo-japones.html
>
> Any clues?
>
> Any hope?
>
> Is google a vampire and garlic its nemesis?
>
> Waiting for an answer, i remain, the garlic queen of Forestville,
>
> cat yonwodehttp://www.herb-magic.com/garlic-ajo-japones.html
> garlic ajo japones at herb-magic.com


Catherine:

Put back the file garlic.html on your website (in the same directory
location). I am assuming it is http://www.herb-magic.com/garlic.html.
Delete the old content from that garlic file and use a completely
different generic content. Use these two (2) files on your website.
I have supplied the HTML source and all you have to do is copy and
paste into your HTML editor or Notepad and save it.

garlic.html
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html>

<head>

<title>This Page No Longer Exists</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1">

</head>

<body bgcolor="#97B0A7"><br /><br />

<div align="center"><font face="georgia" size="1">This web page does
not exist anymore.</font><br /><br />


<a href="http://www.herb-magic.com/removed.html"><font
face="georgia" size="1">Other web pages that need to be removed.</
font></a><br />

<a href="http://www.herb-magic.com/"><font face="georgia"
size="1">Return to Home Page</font></a><br />


</div>

</body>

</html>


removed.html
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html>

<head>

<title>Removed Pages</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1">

</head>

<body bgcolor="#97B0A7"><br /><br />

<div align="center"><font face="georgia" size="1">Web pages that do
not exist.</font><br /><br />
<font face="georgia" size="1">Currently no pages exist here.</
font><br /><br />

<a href="http://www.herb-magic.com/garlic.html"><font
face="georgia" size="1">Garlic</font></a><br />

<a href="http://www.herb-magic.com/"><font face="georgia"
size="1">Return to Home Page</font></a><br />


</div>

</body>

</html>


After implementing, give it around a month to see any positive changes
have occurred.

Robert Flythe
Search Engine Marketing Analyst
Ebased Evolution
http://www.ebasedevolution.com/

rflythe@ebasedevolution.com schreef:
> On Jun 21, 4:55 am, catherine yronwode <c...@herb-magic.com> wrote:
>> I am experiencing some google weirdness:
>>
>> Late last year i put up a web page about garlic at my Herb Magic web
>> site.
>>
>> The url (which i am going to break here, so no bot can attempt to follow
>> it, as it is 404) was
>>
>> huttup-wow-colon-slash-slash herb-magic.com slash garlic.html
>>
>> This spring -- in late March 2007 -- i decided to break the page into
>> two parts, one page each for each of two different spcies of garlic.
>>
>> I wrote two pages, one for the type of garlic that is called common
>> garlic and in Spanish ajo macho (manly garlic) and one for a species of
>> shallot-type wild garlic that in Spanish is called ajo japones (Japanese
>> Garlic).
>>
>> I deleted the plain garlic url from my site and from the index page to
>> my site. There are no links to it. It does not exist. It is 404. It is
>> not pining for the fjords, it is deceased.
>>
>> Google has refused to believe that this page is gone. It retains a
>> cached link from March 24, 2007 -- but here's the weird part, although
>> it has indexed and re-indexed the site several times since then, it has
>> NEVER picked up the page on ajo japones. It has cahces of the index page
>> and of many other pages from late May or even more recently, but it
>> balks at this one garlic page.
>>
>> WHY?
>>
>> Who knows?
>>
>> More to the point, what can i do about it?
>>
>> Google does not like folks to submit single pages, prefering to do its
>> own crawls.
>>
>> But no matter how many times googlebot has crawled and re-indexed the
>> site, it clings to the corpse of that March 24th page and refuses to
>> embrace the vivid, living new garlic ajo japones page.
>>
>> Here is the page that google will not index:
>>
>> http://www.herb-magic.com/garlic-ajo-japones.html
>>
>> Any clues?
>>
>> Any hope?
>>
>> Is google a vampire and garlic its nemesis?
>>
>> Waiting for an answer, i remain, the garlic queen of Forestville,
>>
>> cat yonwodehttp://www.herb-magic.com/garlic-ajo-japones.html
>> garlic ajo japones at herb-magic.com
>
>
> Catherine:
>
> Put back the file garlic.html on your website (in the same directory
> location). I am assuming it is http://www.herb-magic.com/garlic.html.
> Delete the old content from that garlic file and use a completely
> different generic content. Use these two (2) files on your website.
> I have supplied the HTML source and all you have to do is copy and
> paste into your HTML editor or Notepad and save it.

[snip html suggestion]

Are you totaly out of your mind? Catherine doesn't want a page to turn
up in the results that says "This page does not exist".

Dont mess with search engines, instead follow their ways!

Catherine, use Google's removal tool like BB suggested. And wait.




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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:24:18 -0000, rflythe@ebasedevolution.com wrote:

>
>After implementing, give it around a month to see any positive changes
>have occurred.
>
>Robert Flythe
>Search Engine Marketing Analyst
>Ebased Evolution
>http://www.ebasedevolution.com/

An imaginative solution, Robert, what makes you think it will work?

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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:58:58 +0200, Tonnie Lubbers
<t.prasing@chello.nl> wrote:

>rflythe@ebasedevolution.com schreef:
>> On Jun 21, 4:55 am, catherine yronwode <c...@herb-magic.com> wrote:
>>> I am experiencing some google weirdness:
>>>
>>> Late last year i put up a web page about garlic at my Herb Magic web
>>> site.
>>>
>>> The url (which i am going to break here, so no bot can attempt to follow
>>> it, as it is 404) was
>>>
>>> huttup-wow-colon-slash-slash herb-magic.com slash garlic.html
>>>
>>> This spring -- in late March 2007 -- i decided to break the page into
>>> two parts, one page each for each of two different spcies of garlic.
>>>
>>> I wrote two pages, one for the type of garlic that is called common
>>> garlic and in Spanish ajo macho (manly garlic) and one for a species of
>>> shallot-type wild garlic that in Spanish is called ajo japones (Japanese
>>> Garlic).
>>>
>>> I deleted the plain garlic url from my site and from the index page to
>>> my site. There are no links to it. It does not exist. It is 404. It is
>>> not pining for the fjords, it is deceased.
>>>
>>> Google has refused to believe that this page is gone. It retains a
>>> cached link from March 24, 2007 -- but here's the weird part, although
>>> it has indexed and re-indexed the site several times since then, it has
>>> NEVER picked up the page on ajo japones. It has cahces of the index page
>>> and of many other pages from late May or even more recently, but it
>>> balks at this one garlic page.
>>>
>>> WHY?
>>>
>>> Who knows?
>>>
>>> More to the point, what can i do about it?
>>>
>>> Google does not like folks to submit single pages, prefering to do its
>>> own crawls.
>>>
>>> But no matter how many times googlebot has crawled and re-indexed the
>>> site, it clings to the corpse of that March 24th page and refuses to
>>> embrace the vivid, living new garlic ajo japones page.
>>>
>>> Here is the page that google will not index:
>>>
>>> http://www.herb-magic.com/garlic-ajo-japones.html
>>>
>>> Any clues?
>>>
>>> Any hope?
>>>
>>> Is google a vampire and garlic its nemesis?
>>>
>>> Waiting for an answer, i remain, the garlic queen of Forestville,
>>>
>>> cat yonwodehttp://www.herb-magic.com/garlic-ajo-japones.html
>>> garlic ajo japones at herb-magic.com
>>
>>
>> Catherine:
>>
>> Put back the file garlic.html on your website (in the same directory
>> location). I am assuming it is http://www.herb-magic.com/garlic.html.
>> Delete the old content from that garlic file and use a completely
>> different generic content. Use these two (2) files on your website.
>> I have supplied the HTML source and all you have to do is copy and
>> paste into your HTML editor or Notepad and save it.
>
>[snip html suggestion]
>
>Are you totaly out of your mind? Catherine doesn't want a page to turn
>up in the results that says "This page does not exist".
>
>Dont mess with search engines, instead follow their ways!
>
>Catherine, use Google's removal tool like BB suggested. And wait.

Yes, about a week. Or, have your people cointact me again with the url
and I'll see if I can do it. I'll need the complete original url.

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