Which search engine will return only those pages that actually do contain my keywords?

10/02/2007, 15h13

Please, please, please me...

When I search for pages I only want those that actually have the
desired keywords in them.

If my search terms are not specifically included in a page, then I do
not want to see that page.

If there are any search engines that will allow me to do this, please,
please, please, tell me about them.

Steve

10/02/2007, 18h28

gfr92y@yahoo.com wrote:

> Please, please, please me...
>
> When I search for pages I only want those that actually have the
> desired keywords in them.
>
> If my search terms are not specifically included in a page, then I do
> not want to see that page.
>
> If there are any search engines that will allow me to do this, please,
> please, please, tell me about them.

Google

Usage:

+"keyword phrase"

or

+keyword

10/02/2007, 20h10

gfr92y@yahoo.com wrote:

> Please, please, please me...

> When I search for pages I only want those that actually have the
> desired keywords in them.

> If my search terms are not specifically included in a page, then I do
> not want to see that page.

> If there are any search engines that will allow me to do this, please,
> please, please, tell me about them.

> Steve

None of the major search engines will do what you want. They will happily
return pages that have links to them with the word "keyword" in the anchor
text even though there is not a single "keyword" on the page. Also, they
will return pages that have "keyword" in their URL. In fact, Google will
even return those with "keyword" in anchor text before those that actually
contain the word "keyword" in the page. Ever heard of "Google Bomb" and
"miserable failure"? Look them up if you didn't, can be pretty
entertaining.

There may be some search engines out there that still use on-page index
only and so they will return only pages that have "keyword" on the page
but you can safely bet they will have reach so limited that you won't get
any useful data from the search.

--
Cheers,
Dmitri
See Site Sig Below

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10/02/2007, 21h22

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:10:10 GMT, info_at_1-script_dot_com@foo.com
(www.1-script.com) wrote:

>gfr92y@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Please, please, please me...
>
>> When I search for pages I only want those that actually have the
>> desired keywords in them.
>
>> If my search terms are not specifically included in a page, then I do
>> not want to see that page.
>
>> If there are any search engines that will allow me to do this, please,
>> please, please, tell me about them.
>
>> Steve
>
>None of the major search engines will do what you want. They will happily
>return pages that have links to them with the word "keyword" in the anchor
>text even though there is not a single "keyword" on the page. Also, they
>will return pages that have "keyword" in their URL. In fact, Google will
>even return those with "keyword" in anchor text before those that actually
>contain the word "keyword" in the page. Ever heard of "Google Bomb" and
>"miserable failure"? Look them up if you didn't, can be pretty
>entertaining.

Not any more! They changed all that.

>There may be some search engines out there that still use on-page index
>only and so they will return only pages that have "keyword" on the page
>but you can safely bet they will have reach so limited that you won't get
>any useful data from the search.

They're called MSN!

BB
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http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-tips.htm

11/02/2007, 01h41

On Feb 10, 4:22 pm, Big Bill <b...@kruse.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:10:10 GMT, info_at_1-script_dot_...@foo.com
>
>
>
>
>
> (www.1-script.com) wrote:
> >gfr...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >> Please, please, please me...
>
> >> When I search for pages I only want those that actually have the
> >> desired keywords in them.
>
> >> If my search terms are not specifically included in a page, then I do
> >> not want to see that page.
>
> >> If there are any search engines that will allow me to do this, please,
> >> please, please, tell me about them.
>
> >> Steve
>
> >None of the major search engines will do what you want. They will happily
> >return pages that have links to them with the word "keyword" in the anchor
> >text even though there is not a single "keyword" on the page. Also, they
> >will return pages that have "keyword" in their URL. In fact, Google will
> >even return those with "keyword" in anchor text before those that actually
> >contain the word "keyword" in the page. Ever heard of "Google Bomb" and
> >"miserable failure"? Look them up if you didn't, can be pretty
> >entertaining.
>
> Not any more! They changed all that.
>
> >There may be some search engines out there that still use on-page index
> >only and so they will return only pages that have "keyword" on the page
> >but you can safely bet they will have reach so limited that you won't get
> >any useful data from the search.
>
> They're called MSN!
>
> BB
> --
>
> http://www.kruse.co.uk/internet-mark.../seo-tips.htm- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

BB,

Do I understand you correctly...

MSN did in the past, and they were the only one that did in the past,
but they (MSN) no longer do it.

Thanks!

Steve

11/02/2007, 01h45

On Feb 10, 1:28 pm, 1100000 <see_reply-to_addr...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
> gfr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Please, please, please me...
>
> > When I search for pages I only want those that actually have the
> > desired keywords in them.
>
> > If my search terms are not specifically included in a page, then I do
> > not want to see that page.
>
> > If there are any search engines that will allow me to do this, please,
> > please, please, tell me about them.
>
> Google
>
> Usage:
>
> +"keyword phrase"
>
> or
>
> +keyword

Dear 1.1E+06,

Dmitri is calling you a liar! [j.k.]

Seriously, who's right, you or Dmitri?

Thanks!

Steve

11/02/2007, 01h47

On Feb 10, 3:10 pm, info_at_1-script_dot_...@foo.com (www.1-
script.com) wrote:
> gfr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Please, please, please me...
> > When I search for pages I only want those that actually have the
> > desired keywords in them.
> > If my search terms are not specifically included in a page, then I do
> > not want to see that page.
> > If there are any search engines that will allow me to do this, please,
> > please, please, tell me about them.
> > Steve
>
> None of the major search engines will do what you want. They will happily
> return pages that have links to them with the word "keyword" in the anchor
> text even though there is not a single "keyword" on the page. Also, they
> will return pages that have "keyword" in their URL. In fact, Google will
> even return those with "keyword" in anchor text before those that actually
> contain the word "keyword" in the page. Ever heard of "Google Bomb" and
> "miserable failure"? Look them up if you didn't, can be pretty
> entertaining.
>
> There may be some search engines out there that still use on-page index
> only and so they will return only pages that have "keyword" on the page
> but you can safely bet they will have reach so limited that you won't get
> any useful data from the search.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Dmitri
> See Site Sig Below
>
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Dear Dmitri,

1.1E+06 is calling you a bleepin' liar! [j.k.]

Seriously, who's right, you or 1.1E+06?

Thanks!

Steve

11/02/2007, 02h11

On Feb 10, 1:28 pm, 1100000 <see_reply-to_addr...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
> gfr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Please, please, please me...
>
> > When I search for pages I only want those that actually have the
> > desired keywords in them.
>
> > If my search terms are not specifically included in a page, then I do
> > not want to see that page.
>
> > If there are any search engines that will allow me to do this, please,
> > please, please, tell me about them.
>
> Google
>
> Usage:
>
> +"keyword phrase"
>
> or
>
> +keyword

1.1E+06,

I performed a very unsophisticated test using three keywords and one
two-word phrase in quotes, first without the leading "+" and then
with. After receiving the search results, I reviewed the first twenty
records having the "Cached" option and found that not using the
leading "+" results in only 20% of the pages actually containing the
desired keywords and phrase; whereas, using the leading "+" increased
the percentage of acceptable records to an astonishing 95%.

Needless to say... You're my hero!

Steve

11/02/2007, 08h32

On 10 Feb 2007 17:41:23 -0800, gfr92y@yahoo.com wrote:

>On Feb 10, 4:22 pm, Big Bill <b...@kruse.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:10:10 GMT, info_at_1-script_dot_...@foo.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> (www.1-script.com) wrote:
>> >gfr...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> >> Please, please, please me...
>>
>> >> When I search for pages I only want those that actually have the
>> >> desired keywords in them.
>>
>> >> If my search terms are not specifically included in a page, then I do
>> >> not want to see that page.
>>
>> >> If there are any search engines that will allow me to do this, please,
>> >> please, please, tell me about them.
>>
>> >> Steve
>>
>> >None of the major search engines will do what you want. They will happily
>> >return pages that have links to them with the word "keyword" in the anchor
>> >text even though there is not a single "keyword" on the page. Also, they
>> >will return pages that have "keyword" in their URL. In fact, Google will
>> >even return those with "keyword" in anchor text before those that actually
>> >contain the word "keyword" in the page. Ever heard of "Google Bomb" and
>> >"miserable failure"? Look them up if you didn't, can be pretty
>> >entertaining.
>>
>> Not any more! They changed all that.
>>
>> >There may be some search engines out there that still use on-page index
>> >only and so they will return only pages that have "keyword" on the page
>> >but you can safely bet they will have reach so limited that you won't get
>> >any useful data from the search.
>>
>> They're called MSN!
>>
>> BB
>> --
>>
>> http://www.kruse.co.uk/internet-mark.../seo-tips.htm- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
>BB,
>
>Do I understand you correctly...
>
>MSN did in the past, and they were the only one that did in the past,
>but they (MSN) no longer do it.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Steve

I believe they still do but from what I hear they have a rotating
algorithm that's inconsistent.

BB

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11/02/2007, 09h18

<gfr92y@yahoo.com> wrote in message :...
> On Feb 10, 1:28 pm, 1100000 <see_reply-to_addr...@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
>> gfr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I performed a very unsophisticated test using three keywords and one
> two-word phrase in quotes, first without the leading "+" and then
> with. After receiving the search results, I reviewed the first twenty
> records having the "Cached" option and found that not using the
> leading "+" results in only 20% of the pages actually containing the
> desired keywords and phrase; whereas, using the leading "+" increased
> the percentage of acceptable records to an astonishing 95%.

I wonder if the 95% rate is because the page once contained those keywords.
Google remembers the text on a page even after you remove it and will still
sometimes show that page for those queries. I don't know if that is the
reason though.

11/02/2007, 23h26

1.1E+06,

Perhaps you can me with another desire...

I have found that including a keyword in the [Without The Words] field
or adding "-keyword" (without the quotes, of course) in the search
criteria does not insure the keyword will not be present in those
pages being returned.

Is there any way to increase the efficacy of the NOT feature?

Thanks!

Steve

12/02/2007, 05h05

<gfr92y@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 1.1E+06,
>
> Perhaps you can me with another desire...
>
> I have found that including a keyword in the [Without The Words] field
> or adding "-keyword" (without the quotes, of course) in the search
> criteria does not insure the keyword will not be present in those
> pages being returned.
>
> Is there any way to increase the efficacy of the NOT feature?

I'm not sure... the minus (-) isn't working?

10/02/2007, 15h13	#1
gfr92y@yahoo.com Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Which search engine will return only those pages that actually do contain my keywords? Please, please, please me... When I search for pages I only want those that actually have the desired keywords in them. If my search terms are not specifically included in a page, then I do not want to see that page. If there are any search engines that will allow me to do this, please, please, please, tell me about them. Steve

10/02/2007, 18h28	#2
1100000 Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: Which search engine will return only those pages that actually do contain my keywords? gfr92y@yahoo.com wrote: > Please, please, please me... > > When I search for pages I only want those that actually have the > desired keywords in them. > > If my search terms are not specifically included in a page, then I do > not want to see that page. > > If there are any search engines that will allow me to do this, please, > please, please, tell me about them. Google Usage: +"keyword phrase" or +keyword

10/02/2007, 20h10	#3
www.1-script.com Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: Which search engine will return only those pages that actually do contain my gfr92y@yahoo.com wrote: > Please, please, please me... > When I search for pages I only want those that actually have the > desired keywords in them. > If my search terms are not specifically included in a page, then I do > not want to see that page. > If there are any search engines that will allow me to do this, please, > please, please, tell me about them. > Steve None of the major search engines will do what you want. They will happily return pages that have links to them with the word "keyword" in the anchor text even though there is not a single "keyword" on the page. Also, they will return pages that have "keyword" in their URL. In fact, Google will even return those with "keyword" in anchor text before those that actually contain the word "keyword" in the page. Ever heard of "Google Bomb" and "miserable failure"? Look them up if you didn't, can be pretty entertaining. There may be some search engines out there that still use on-page index only and so they will return only pages that have "keyword" on the page but you can safely bet they will have reach so limited that you won't get any useful data from the search. -- Cheers, Dmitri See Site Sig Below -- +------------------------------------------------+ \| Follow alt.internet.search-engines threads \| \| with your Firefox Live Bookmarks! Set it up at \| \| http://www.1-script.com/forums/ \| +------------------------------------------------+

10/02/2007, 21h22	#4
Big Bill Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: Which search engine will return only those pages that actually do contain my On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:10:10 GMT, info_at_1-script_dot_com@foo.com (www.1-script.com) wrote: >gfr92y@yahoo.com wrote: > >> Please, please, please me... > >> When I search for pages I only want those that actually have the >> desired keywords in them. > >> If my search terms are not specifically included in a page, then I do >> not want to see that page. > >> If there are any search engines that will allow me to do this, please, >> please, please, tell me about them. > >> Steve > >None of the major search engines will do what you want. They will happily >return pages that have links to them with the word "keyword" in the anchor >text even though there is not a single "keyword" on the page. Also, they >will return pages that have "keyword" in their URL. In fact, Google will >even return those with "keyword" in anchor text before those that actually >contain the word "keyword" in the page. Ever heard of "Google Bomb" and >"miserable failure"? Look them up if you didn't, can be pretty >entertaining. Not any more! They changed all that. >There may be some search engines out there that still use on-page index >only and so they will return only pages that have "keyword" on the page >but you can safely bet they will have reach so limited that you won't get >any useful data from the search. They're called MSN! BB -- http://www.kruse.co.uk/internet-mark...l-business.htm http://www.kruse.co.uk/google-mountain.htm http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-tips.htm

11/02/2007, 01h41	#5
gfr92y@yahoo.com Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: Which search engine will return only those pages that actually do contain my On Feb 10, 4:22 pm, Big Bill <b...@kruse.co.uk> wrote: > On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:10:10 GMT, info_at_1-script_dot_...@foo.com > > > > > > (www.1-script.com) wrote: > >gfr...@yahoo.com wrote: > > >> Please, please, please me... > > >> When I search for pages I only want those that actually have the > >> desired keywords in them. > > >> If my search terms are not specifically included in a page, then I do > >> not want to see that page. > > >> If there are any search engines that will allow me to do this, please, > >> please, please, tell me about them. > > >> Steve > > >None of the major search engines will do what you want. They will happily > >return pages that have links to them with the word "keyword" in the anchor > >text even though there is not a single "keyword" on the page. Also, they > >will return pages that have "keyword" in their URL. In fact, Google will > >even return those with "keyword" in anchor text before those that actually > >contain the word "keyword" in the page. Ever heard of "Google Bomb" and > >"miserable failure"? Look them up if you didn't, can be pretty > >entertaining. > > Not any more! They changed all that. > > >There may be some search engines out there that still use on-page index > >only and so they will return only pages that have "keyword" on the page > >but you can safely bet they will have reach so limited that you won't get > >any useful data from the search. > > They're called MSN! > > BB > -- > > http://www.kruse.co.uk/internet-mark.../seo-tips.htm- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - BB, Do I understand you correctly... MSN did in the past, and they were the only one that did in the past, but they (MSN) no longer do it. Thanks! Steve

11/02/2007, 01h45	#6
gfr92y@yahoo.com Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: Which search engine will return only those pages that actually do contain my keywords? On Feb 10, 1:28 pm, 1100000 <see_reply-to_addr...@nospam.invalid> wrote: > gfr...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Please, please, please me... > > > When I search for pages I only want those that actually have the > > desired keywords in them. > > > If my search terms are not specifically included in a page, then I do > > not want to see that page. > > > If there are any search engines that will allow me to do this, please, > > please, please, tell me about them. > > Google > > Usage: > > +"keyword phrase" > > or > > +keyword Dear 1.1E+06, Dmitri is calling you a liar! [j.k.] Seriously, who's right, you or Dmitri? Thanks! Steve

11/02/2007, 01h47	#7
gfr92y@yahoo.com Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: Which search engine will return only those pages that actually do contain my On Feb 10, 3:10 pm, info_at_1-script_dot_...@foo.com (www.1- script.com) wrote: > gfr...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Please, please, please me... > > When I search for pages I only want those that actually have the > > desired keywords in them. > > If my search terms are not specifically included in a page, then I do > > not want to see that page. > > If there are any search engines that will allow me to do this, please, > > please, please, tell me about them. > > Steve > > None of the major search engines will do what you want. They will happily > return pages that have links to them with the word "keyword" in the anchor > text even though there is not a single "keyword" on the page. Also, they > will return pages that have "keyword" in their URL. In fact, Google will > even return those with "keyword" in anchor text before those that actually > contain the word "keyword" in the page. Ever heard of "Google Bomb" and > "miserable failure"? Look them up if you didn't, can be pretty > entertaining. > > There may be some search engines out there that still use on-page index > only and so they will return only pages that have "keyword" on the page > but you can safely bet they will have reach so limited that you won't get > any useful data from the search. > > -- > Cheers, > Dmitri > See Site Sig Below > > -- > +------------------------------------------------+ > \| Follow alt.internet.search-engines threads \| > \| with your Firefox Live Bookmarks! Set it up at \| > \| http://www.1-script.com/forums/ \| > +------------------------------------------------+ Dear Dmitri, 1.1E+06 is calling you a bleepin' liar! [j.k.] Seriously, who's right, you or 1.1E+06? Thanks! Steve

11/02/2007, 02h11	#8
gfr92y@yahoo.com Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: Which search engine will return only those pages that actually do contain my keywords? On Feb 10, 1:28 pm, 1100000 <see_reply-to_addr...@nospam.invalid> wrote: > gfr...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Please, please, please me... > > > When I search for pages I only want those that actually have the > > desired keywords in them. > > > If my search terms are not specifically included in a page, then I do > > not want to see that page. > > > If there are any search engines that will allow me to do this, please, > > please, please, tell me about them. > > Google > > Usage: > > +"keyword phrase" > > or > > +keyword 1.1E+06, I performed a very unsophisticated test using three keywords and one two-word phrase in quotes, first without the leading "+" and then with. After receiving the search results, I reviewed the first twenty records having the "Cached" option and found that not using the leading "+" results in only 20% of the pages actually containing the desired keywords and phrase; whereas, using the leading "+" increased the percentage of acceptable records to an astonishing 95%. Needless to say... You're my hero! Steve

11/02/2007, 08h32	#9
Big Bill Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: Which search engine will return only those pages that actually do contain my On 10 Feb 2007 17:41:23 -0800, gfr92y@yahoo.com wrote: >On Feb 10, 4:22 pm, Big Bill <b...@kruse.co.uk> wrote: >> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:10:10 GMT, info_at_1-script_dot_...@foo.com >> >> >> >> >> >> (www.1-script.com) wrote: >> >gfr...@yahoo.com wrote: >> >> >> Please, please, please me... >> >> >> When I search for pages I only want those that actually have the >> >> desired keywords in them. >> >> >> If my search terms are not specifically included in a page, then I do >> >> not want to see that page. >> >> >> If there are any search engines that will allow me to do this, please, >> >> please, please, tell me about them. >> >> >> Steve >> >> >None of the major search engines will do what you want. They will happily >> >return pages that have links to them with the word "keyword" in the anchor >> >text even though there is not a single "keyword" on the page. Also, they >> >will return pages that have "keyword" in their URL. In fact, Google will >> >even return those with "keyword" in anchor text before those that actually >> >contain the word "keyword" in the page. Ever heard of "Google Bomb" and >> >"miserable failure"? Look them up if you didn't, can be pretty >> >entertaining. >> >> Not any more! They changed all that. >> >> >There may be some search engines out there that still use on-page index >> >only and so they will return only pages that have "keyword" on the page >> >but you can safely bet they will have reach so limited that you won't get >> >any useful data from the search. >> >> They're called MSN! >> >> BB >> -- >> >> http://www.kruse.co.uk/internet-mark.../seo-tips.htm- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >BB, > >Do I understand you correctly... > >MSN did in the past, and they were the only one that did in the past, >but they (MSN) no longer do it. > >Thanks! > >Steve I believe they still do but from what I hear they have a rotating algorithm that's inconsistent. BB -- http://www.kruse.co.uk/internet-mark...l-business.htm http://www.kruse.co.uk/google-mountain.htm http://www.kruse.co.uk/seo-tips.htm

11/02/2007, 09h18	#10
1100000 Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: Which search engine will return only those pages that actually do contain my keywords? <gfr92y@yahoo.com> wrote in message :... > On Feb 10, 1:28 pm, 1100000 <see_reply-to_addr...@nospam.invalid> > wrote: >> gfr...@yahoo.com wrote: > I performed a very unsophisticated test using three keywords and one > two-word phrase in quotes, first without the leading "+" and then > with. After receiving the search results, I reviewed the first twenty > records having the "Cached" option and found that not using the > leading "+" results in only 20% of the pages actually containing the > desired keywords and phrase; whereas, using the leading "+" increased > the percentage of acceptable records to an astonishing 95%. I wonder if the 95% rate is because the page once contained those keywords. Google remembers the text on a page even after you remove it and will still sometimes show that page for those queries. I don't know if that is the reason though.

11/02/2007, 23h26	#11
gfr92y@yahoo.com Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Which search engine will... 1.1E+06, Perhaps you can me with another desire... I have found that including a keyword in the [Without The Words] field or adding "-keyword" (without the quotes, of course) in the search criteria does not insure the keyword will not be present in those pages being returned. Is there any way to increase the efficacy of the NOT feature? Thanks! Steve

12/02/2007, 05h05	#12
1100000 Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: Which search engine will... <gfr92y@yahoo.com> wrote: > 1.1E+06, > > Perhaps you can me with another desire... > > I have found that including a keyword in the [Without The Words] field > or adding "-keyword" (without the quotes, of course) in the search > criteria does not insure the keyword will not be present in those > pages being returned. > > Is there any way to increase the efficacy of the NOT feature? I'm not sure... the minus (-) isn't working?

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