I've been working on a new website and only within the last week did I
upload it from my local machine to my server. It's not finished yet and
therefore I have not made any attempts to get it listed or spidered- no
links to it from any other website. The website is therefore 'an orphan' in
the sense that it's up on the web but with no links to it and no way that I
can think of that the search engines can find it and index it.
However, within the last few days Yahoo has got it listed. This within about
3- 4 days or uploading it.I was astonished. How can this have happened?



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On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:09:44 +0700, "-keevill-" <keevillus@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I've been working on a new website and only within the last week did I
>upload it from my local machine to my server. It's not finished yet and
>therefore I have not made any attempts to get it listed or spidered- no
>links to it from any other website. The website is therefore 'an orphan' in
>the sense that it's up on the web but with no links to it and no way that I
>can think of that the search engines can find it and index it.
>However, within the last few days Yahoo has got it listed. This within about
>3- 4 days or uploading it.I was astonished. How can this have happened?

Same thing happened with me, but I do have adsense and google search
on there, so may be that was the reason for me.

Do you have any yahoo adverts on your site at all ?

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>
> Same thing happened with me, but I do have adsense and google search
> on there, so may be that was the reason for me.
>
> Do you have any yahoo adverts on your site at all ?

Nothing like that whatsoever. I do have some *outbound* links to sites such
as Thawte/Visa etc but if this would only explain the listing if ,in some
way ,Yahoo! was monitoring links to these sites and updated its database as
new sites linked to them but surely this is a bit far fetched ??
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On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:09:44 +0700, "-keevill-" <keevillus@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I've been working on a new website and only within the last week did I
>upload it from my local machine to my server. It's not finished yet and
>therefore I have not made any attempts to get it listed or spidered- no
>links to it from any other website. The website is therefore 'an orphan' in
>the sense that it's up on the web but with no links to it and no way that I
>can think of that the search engines can find it and index it.
>However, within the last few days Yahoo has got it listed. This within about
>3- 4 days or uploading it.I was astonished. How can this have happened?

What toolbars are you using?

BB

"Big Bill" <kruse@cityscape.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7bqkl21jl8r4rusvr5u2klmr728a8m5n6v@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:09:44 +0700, "-keevill-" <keevillus@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I've been working on a new website and only within the last week did I
>>upload it from my local machine to my server. It's not finished yet and
>>therefore I have not made any attempts to get it listed or spidered- no
>>links to it from any other website. The website is therefore 'an orphan'
>>in
>>the sense that it's up on the web but with no links to it and no way that
>>I
>>can think of that the search engines can find it and index it.
>>However, within the last few days Yahoo has got it listed. This within
>>about
>>3- 4 days or uploading it.I was astonished. How can this have happened?
>
> What toolbars are you using?
>
> BB

What do you mean by toolbar? None on the new site . Local machine Internet
browser toolbar like Google or what do you mean ??



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-keevill- wrote:
> I've been working on a new website and only within the last week did I
> upload it from my local machine to my server. It's not finished yet and
> therefore I have not made any attempts to get it listed or spidered- no
> links to it from any other website. The website is therefore 'an orphan' in
> the sense that it's up on the web but with no links to it and no way that I
> can think of that the search engines can find it and index it.
> However, within the last few days Yahoo has got it listed. This within about
> 3- 4 days or uploading it.I was astonished. How can this have happened?
>
>
>
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If you use any Toolbar, ie Alexa or google toolbar, they submit your
traffic information directly to those companies. So google knows
exactly which website you visit and GoogleBot will come knocking if it
doesn't know the domain yet.

>
> If you use any Toolbar, ie Alexa or google toolbar, they submit your
> traffic information directly to those companies. So google knows
> exactly which website you visit and GoogleBot will come knocking if it
> doesn't know the domain yet.


Aha I see.. so if I or anyone else uses Yahoo toolbar and browse to the new
site, Yahoo will pick it up and go to check it out.
Simple really .
Thx for enlightening me !!
-keevill-



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On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:50:49 +0700, "-keevill-" <keevillus@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>"Big Bill" <kruse@cityscape.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:7bqkl21jl8r4rusvr5u2klmr728a8m5n6v@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:09:44 +0700, "-keevill-" <keevillus@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I've been working on a new website and only within the last week did I
>>>upload it from my local machine to my server. It's not finished yet and
>>>therefore I have not made any attempts to get it listed or spidered- no
>>>links to it from any other website. The website is therefore 'an orphan'
>>>in
>>>the sense that it's up on the web but with no links to it and no way that
>>>I
>>>can think of that the search engines can find it and index it.
>>>However, within the last few days Yahoo has got it listed. This within
>>>about
>>>3- 4 days or uploading it.I was astonished. How can this have happened?
>>
>> What toolbars are you using?
>>
>> BB
>
>What do you mean by toolbar? None on the new site . Local machine Internet
>browser toolbar like Google or what do you mean ??

Yes. I'm wondering if it's passing back information, phoning home, as
it were.

BB

There is a question to turn this feature on and off on google toolbar,
Settings->More->Send usage statistics to Google.

You Opted in or out of this as well when installing the toolbard. At
least for Google. Alexa not so sure.I used it once and I believe Panda
screamed that it was full of spyware. Since then i've stayed away. I
send stats to google though unless i'm setting up a new site.


Big Bill wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:50:49 +0700, "-keevill-" <keevillus@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Big Bill" <kruse@cityscape.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:7bqkl21jl8r4rusvr5u2klmr728a8m5n6v@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:09:44 +0700, "-keevill-" <keevillus@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>I've been working on a new website and only within the last week did I
> >>>upload it from my local machine to my server. It's not finished yet and
> >>>therefore I have not made any attempts to get it listed or spidered- no
> >>>links to it from any other website. The website is therefore 'an orphan'
> >>>in
> >>>the sense that it's up on the web but with no links to it and no way that
> >>>I
> >>>can think of that the search engines can find it and index it.
> >>>However, within the last few days Yahoo has got it listed. This within
> >>>about
> >>>3- 4 days or uploading it.I was astonished. How can this have happened?
> >>
> >> What toolbars are you using?
> >>
> >> BB
> >
> >What do you mean by toolbar? None on the new site . Local machine Internet
> >browser toolbar like Google or what do you mean ??
>
> Yes. I'm wondering if it's passing back information, phoning home, as
> it were.
>
> BB

>Group: alt.internet.search-engines Date:
> Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 7:09am (CST+13)
> From: keevillus@yahoo.com (-keevill-)

>I've been working on a new website and
> only within the last week did I upload it
> from my local machine to my server. It's
> not finished yet and therefore I have not
> made any attempts to get it listed or
> spidered- no links to it from any other
> website. The website is therefore 'an
> orphan' in the sense that it's up on the
> web but with no links to it and no way
> that I can think of that the search
> engines can find it and index it.
> However, within the last few days
> Yahoo has got it listed. This within
> about 3- 4 days or uploading it.I was
> astonished. How can this have
> happened?

I had the same thing happen by Yahoo. On two of my domain names with NO
LINKS in or out and no words except in the title tag, Yahoo picked it
up

The sites are vanity sites so they are one page and use gifs to display
the information. There is no text except in the title tag.

The only explanation I can think of is I use 1and1.com to host and maybe
they are submitting every site hosted by them?

I use K-Meleon as my browser and have no other toolbars as K-Meleon
doesn't need them.

<snip>

> If you use any Toolbar, ie Alexa or google toolbar, they submit your
> traffic information directly to those companies. So google knows
> exactly which website you visit and GoogleBot will come knocking if it
> doesn't know the domain yet.

I didn't know that. Why should these toolbars send back the traffic
information, i.e. which sites we visit and other related information to
crawlers?

I know google stores users search habit, provided users let them - to
refine search results; but why using toolbars for that?


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> >Group: alt.internet.search-engines Date:
>> Wed, Nov 15, 2006, 7:09am (CST+13)
>> From: keevillus@yahoo.com (-keevill-)
>
>>I've been working on a new website and
>> only within the last week did I upload it
>> from my local machine to my server. It's
>> not finished yet and therefore I have not
>> made any attempts to get it listed or
>> spidered- no links to it from any other
>> website. The website is therefore 'an
>> orphan' in the sense that it's up on the
>> web but with no links to it and no way
>> that I can think of that the search
>> engines can find it and index it.
>> However, within the last few days
>> Yahoo has got it listed. This within
>> about 3- 4 days or uploading it.I was
>> astonished. How can this have
>> happened?


I DO use the Yahoo toolbar and it's Yahoo which has got me indexed. I note
the Yahoo spider in my logfiles.
So to test I deliberately installed Google bar and clicked over several
times to the website . Lo and behold yesterday the googlebot came to call
and sniff around. Co-incidence or was it cos Yahoo recorded my website?
Surely correct that the toolbars record browser habits and update their
database when new sites pop up.
-keevill-



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