If you have your site on a pay per click search engine, a big one you
know like Google adwords say for three months and for three months you
get no customers how much money do you think you would loose?

jalexa9898@aol.com wrote:

> If you have your site on a pay per click search engine, a big one you
> know like Google adwords say for three months and for three months you
> get no customers how much money do you think you would loose?

visitors x avg ppc

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John Bokma wrote:

> jalexa9898@aol.com wrote:
>
>> If you have your site on a pay per click search engine, a big one you
>> know like Google adwords say for three months and for three months you
>> get no customers how much money do you think you would loose?
>
> visitors x avg ppc

+ (fraudulent clicks x avg ppc)


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__/ [ Brian Wakem ] on Sunday 17 September 2006 09:43 \__

> John Bokma wrote:
>
>> jalexa9898@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> If you have your site on a pay per click search engine, a big one you
>>> know like Google adwords say for three months and for three months you
>>> get no customers how much money do you think you would loose?
>>
>> visitors x avg ppc
>
> + (fraudulent clicks x avg ppc)

avg ppc =~ ad value - tax - Google's share of the deal - fraudulent clicks
'insurance'

1. Set up Web site
2. Embed AdSense
3. Elevate traffic
4. ...
5. Google and spammers profit!

Brian Wakem <no@email.com> wrote:

> John Bokma wrote:
>
>> jalexa9898@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> If you have your site on a pay per click search engine, a big one you
>>> know like Google adwords say for three months and for three months you
>>> get no customers how much money do you think you would loose?
>>
>> visitors x avg ppc
>
> + (fraudulent clicks x avg ppc)

Aargh, very good point.

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I guess what I am wondering is have any of you ever done this and have
you ever done this for three months?

jalexa9898@aol.com wrote:

> I guess what I am wondering is have any of you ever done this and have
> you ever done this for three months?


Ever done what? Please quote an appropriate amount of the message you are
replying to.

Assuming you mean paid google for clicks, then yes, for considerably more
than 3 months (more than 3 years). What do you want to know?


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jalexa9898@aol.com wrote:

> If you have your site on a pay per click search engine, a big one you
> know like Google adwords say for three months and for three months you
> get no customers how much money do you think you would loose?

When you sign up for AdWords, you can set a maximum daily budget. If you
want to cap it at $30/month, just set your maximum daily budget for $1/day.

So in 3 months you might lose up to a maximum of $90 if you have a maximum
daily budget of $1/day.

If you are focusing on a very narrow niche with few searches, you may not
even reach $1/day.

If you post the URL of your site it might give an indication of how much
your keywords are going to cost. For example, if your site about "math
tutors in Tulsa, Oklahoma" you probably aren't going to spend very much
money at all. If the site is a "USA Accident Lawyer Directory" then you
are going to pay a lot of money for AdWords.

What about the keyword Vitamins

On 18 Sep 2006 23:14:28 -0700, jalexa9898@aol.com wrote:

>What about the keyword Vitamins


Heh-heh. That is a densely-packed and competitive market.
But, according to my Bid Browser, top whack is $0.97. Doesn't sound
right to me, but that's what it says.

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jalexa9898@aol.com wrote:

> What about the keyword Vitamins

That sounds like a tough one. The easiest thing to do would be to sign up
for AdWords and make an ad. During the process, before you have to pay
anything, you will get an estimate of daily costs.

The keyword "Vitamins" by itself sounds highly competitive for a casual
search engine venture. You might be able to keep costs down by going for
individual products as keywords (e.g., "country life vitamin c"), but even
there it is going to be highly competitive because you are competing
against professional AdWords marketers with huge budgets.

Sign up for AdWords and go through the ad-creation process. Set your
maximum daily budget at $1. See how much traffic Google estimates. You
don't have to pay anything until after you are asked to enter a credit card
number and the ad goes live.

I guess the reason pay per click search engines scare me is I feel like
I am writing a blank check to pay for web advertising. I mean say I
agree to pay 0.80 cents per click and a thousand people click on my
site thats 800 dollars, I mean is a pay per click system a system where
you have no idea how much it might cost?

z wrote:
> jalexa9898@aol.com wrote:
>
> > What about the keyword Vitamins
>
> That sounds like a tough one. The easiest thing to do would be to sign up
> for AdWords and make an ad. During the process, before you have to pay
> anything, you will get an estimate of daily costs.
>
> The keyword "Vitamins" by itself sounds highly competitive for a casual
> search engine venture. You might be able to keep costs down by going for
> individual products as keywords (e.g., "country life vitamin c"), but even
> there it is going to be highly competitive because you are competing
> against professional AdWords marketers with huge budgets.
>
> Sign up for AdWords and go through the ad-creation process. Set your
> maximum daily budget at $1. See how much traffic Google estimates. You
> don't have to pay anything until after you are asked to enter a credit card
> number and the ad goes live.

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:43:14 +0200, z <nospam@no.invalid> wrote:

> Sign up for AdWords and go through the ad-creation process. Set your
> maximum daily budget at $1. See how much traffic Google estimates. You
> don't have to pay anything until after you are asked to enter a credit
> card number and the ad goes live.

Even then you don't pay till you hit $50 or till first month ends or
something; it can be set up in such a way that you risk just a few bucks.
Estimates given during setup phase are hardly precise (although they give
something to think about).

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> If you have your site on a pay per click search engine, a big one you
> know like Google adwords say for three months and for three months you
> get no customers how much money do you think you would loose?
>

jalexa9898@aol.com wrote:

> I guess the reason pay per click search engines scare me is I feel
> like I am writing a blank check to pay for web advertising. I mean say
> I agree to pay 0.80 cents per click and a thousand people click on my
> site thats 800 dollars, I mean is a pay per click system a system
> where you have no idea how much it might cost?

If you hadn't top posted you could have read the following before you
replied:

>> Sign up for AdWords and go through the ad-creation process. Set your
>> maximum daily budget at $1. See how much traffic Google estimates.
>> You don't have to pay anything until after you are asked to enter a
>> credit card number and the ad goes live.

There is a reason why most people in technical groups *don't* top post.

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What I meant to get to with the original question was it seems that
there is no set price on the amount someone would have to pay for a pay
per click search engine at least based on what I have read about them?
But say I give them my credit card number and the ad goes live then is
there any limit to the amount I might have to pay?

Ok so lets say you bid a dollar a click and you get five thousand
clicks in a month you are obligated to pay five thousand?
John Bokma wrote:
> jalexa9898@aol.com wrote:
>
> > If you have your site on a pay per click search engine, a big one you
> > know like Google adwords say for three months and for three months you
> > get no customers how much money do you think you would loose?
>
> visitors x avg ppc
>
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jalexa9898@aol.com wrote:

> What I meant to get to with the original question was it seems that
> there is no set price on the amount someone would have to pay for a pay
> per click search engine at least based on what I have read about them?
> But say I give them my credit card number and the ad goes live then is
> there any limit to the amount I might have to pay?


Yes there is a limit. Read the thread again, because it is mentioned a few
times. Follow the directions very carefully:

>> Sign up for AdWords and go through the ad-creation process. ÂSet your
>> maximum daily budget at $1.

If you set your limit at $1/day, you aren't risking more than $1/day.

Go to http://adwords.google.com and there are some frequently asked
questions on that page at the bottom. Your question is included.

The documentation is here:
http://www.google.com/adwords/learningcenter/

jalexa9898@aol.com wrote:

> Ok so lets say you bid a dollar a click and you get five thousand
> clicks in a month you are obligated to pay five thousand?

If you set your budget to 5000 USD, yes.

If you set your budget to 50 USD, you just get 50 clicks in the month.


It's like going to a shop with 5,000 dollars, and ask for 5,000 candy bars
each costing 1 USD. How much do you have to pay? 5,000 USD (assuming you
don't get any discount).

If you don't want to pay 5,000 dollars, then ask for less candy bars.

If you can afford only to pay 100 USD/month, then you say to the shop
owner, I want every month 100 candy bars, here is my credit card.

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jalexa9898@aol.com wrote:
> Ok so lets say you bid a dollar a click and you get five thousand
> clicks in a month you are obligated to pay five thousand?
> John Bokma wrote:
> > jalexa9898@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > If you have your site on a pay per click search engine, a big one you
> > > know like Google adwords say for three months and for three months you
> > > get no customers how much money do you think you would loose?
> >
> > visitors x avg ppc
> >
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I have worked with a company for a three month period of time and
maintained his budget for no more than $90 for that time. The budget
was set for $1 a day and if clicks accrued so rapidly that Google
allowed it to exceed the monthly budget, then I simply pulled the ads
for the remainder of the month. There are many great ways that Google
and MSN offer to ensure that you can gain the most quality traffic for
the least amount of money. (Yahoo is not so good)

I have worked with PPC campaigns for several years so if you would like
any advice you may email me at- Anna.PPC1@yahoo.com or visit my site-
www.matrirx-services.com. (The information on my site is still sketchy
as I have only had it up a week. Please bear with me.)

Anna
www.matrirx-services.com