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Vieux 13/09/2006, 18h38   #1
Ignoramus7715
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Let's say that I have a page

http://domain1.com/page1.html

and that I want Google to know that it moved to

http://domain2.com/page2.html

that is, I want google to replace the former with the latter, in its
search results, transfer pagerank, etc.

I control both domain1 and domain2.

thanks

i

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Vieux 13/09/2006, 18h46   #2
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:46:35 GMT, Big Bill <kruse@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:38:18 GMT, Ignoramus7715
><ignoramus7715@NOSPAM.7715.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Let's say that I have a page
>>
>>http://domain1.com/page1.html
>>
>>and that I want Google to know that it moved to
>>
>>http://domain2.com/page2.html
>>
>>that is, I want google to replace the former with the latter, in its
>>search results, transfer pagerank, etc.
>>
>>I control both domain1 and domain2.
>>
>>thanks
>>
>>i

>
> Do a 301 redirect.
>
> BB


Sounds good. Do you know for sure that it will work as I want?

i

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Vieux 13/09/2006, 18h46   #3
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:38:18 GMT, Ignoramus7715
<ignoramus7715@NOSPAM.7715.invalid> wrote:

>Let's say that I have a page
>
>http://domain1.com/page1.html
>
>and that I want Google to know that it moved to
>
>http://domain2.com/page2.html
>
>that is, I want google to replace the former with the latter, in its
>search results, transfer pagerank, etc.
>
>I control both domain1 and domain2.
>
>thanks
>
>i


Do a 301 redirect.

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Vieux 13/09/2006, 18h51   #4
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Ignoramus7715 schreef:
> Let's say that I have a page
>
> http://domain1.com/page1.html
>
> and that I want Google to know that it moved to
>
> http://domain2.com/page2.html
>
> that is, I want google to replace the former with the latter, in its
> search results, transfer pagerank, etc.
>
> I control both domain1 and domain2.
>


Depends on what server software your site is running, don't know exactly
how it can be done on a windows server, but with apache it could be done
with a redirect permanent in the .htaccess file.

For example:

Redirect permanent http://domain1.com/page1.html
http://domain2.com/page2.html

Further more, pagerank won't be transfered but re-calculated.

After having placed the redirect, you should be aware of the fact that
there are / could be still sites linking to the old location. Try to get
them changed by asking the webmasters to do so, at least for the ones
you know of.

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Vieux 13/09/2006, 18h55   #5
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:51:58 +0200, tonnie <t.prasing@chello.nl> wrote:
> Ignoramus7715 schreef:
>> Let's say that I have a page
>>
>> http://domain1.com/page1.html
>>
>> and that I want Google to know that it moved to
>>
>> http://domain2.com/page2.html
>>
>> that is, I want google to replace the former with the latter, in its
>> search results, transfer pagerank, etc.
>>
>> I control both domain1 and domain2.
>>

>
> Depends on what server software your site is running, don't know exactly
> how it can be done on a windows server, but with apache it could be done
> with a redirect permanent in the .htaccess file.
>
> For example:
>
> Redirect permanent http://domain1.com/page1.html
> http://domain2.com/page2.html
>
> Further more, pagerank won't be transfered but re-calculated.
>
> After having placed the redirect, you should be aware of the fact that
> there are / could be still sites linking to the old location. Try to get
> them changed by asking the webmasters to do so, at least for the ones
> you know of.
>


I run linux/apache.

OK, let's say that page1 is the top result in search for "foobar".

If I do this permanent redirect (301), will page2 be on top of the
search result?

i

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Vieux 13/09/2006, 19h08   #6
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Ignoramus7715 schreef:
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:51:58 +0200, tonnie <t.prasing@chello.nl> wrote:
>> Ignoramus7715 schreef:
>>> Let's say that I have a page
>>>
>>> http://domain1.com/page1.html
>>>
>>> and that I want Google to know that it moved to
>>>
>>> http://domain2.com/page2.html
>>>
>>> that is, I want google to replace the former with the latter, in its
>>> search results, transfer pagerank, etc.
>>>
>>> I control both domain1 and domain2.
>>>

>> Depends on what server software your site is running, don't know exactly
>> how it can be done on a windows server, but with apache it could be done
>> with a redirect permanent in the .htaccess file.
>>
>> For example:
>>
>> Redirect permanent http://domain1.com/page1.html
>> http://domain2.com/page2.html
>>
>> Further more, pagerank won't be transfered but re-calculated.
>>
>> After having placed the redirect, you should be aware of the fact that
>> there are / could be still sites linking to the old location. Try to get
>> them changed by asking the webmasters to do so, at least for the ones
>> you know of.
>>

>
> I run linux/apache.
>
> OK, let's say that page1 is the top result in search for "foobar".
>
> If I do this permanent redirect (301), will page2 be on top of the
> search result?


One can't say that for sure. I have seen pages drop and i have seen
pages stay on the same position after placing a redirect.

You most certainly have a purpose to move the content, make sure it is a
done properly and for the right reasons.


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Vieux 14/09/2006, 00h10   #7
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__/ [ tonnie ] on Wednesday 13 September 2006 19:08 \__

> Ignoramus7715 schreef:
>> On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:51:58 +0200, tonnie <t.prasing@chello.nl> wrote:
>>> Ignoramus7715 schreef:
>>>> Let's say that I have a page
>>>>
>>>> http://domain1.com/page1.html
>>>>
>>>> and that I want Google to know that it moved to
>>>>
>>>> http://domain2.com/page2.html
>>>>
>>>> that is, I want google to replace the former with the latter, in its
>>>> search results, transfer pagerank, etc.
>>>>
>>>> I control both domain1 and domain2.
>>>>
>>> Depends on what server software your site is running, don't know exactly
>>> how it can be done on a windows server, but with apache it could be done
>>> with a redirect permanent in the .htaccess file.
>>>
>>> For example:
>>>
>>> Redirect permanent http://domain1.com/page1.html
>>> http://domain2.com/page2.html
>>>
>>> Further more, pagerank won't be transfered but re-calculated.
>>>
>>> After having placed the redirect, you should be aware of the fact that
>>> there are / could be still sites linking to the old location. Try to get
>>> them changed by asking the webmasters to do so, at least for the ones
>>> you know of.
>>>

>>
>> I run linux/apache.
>>
>> OK, let's say that page1 is the top result in search for "foobar".
>>
>> If I do this permanent redirect (301), will page2 be on top of the
>> search result?

>
> One can't say that for sure. I have seen pages drop and i have seen
> pages stay on the same position after placing a redirect.
>
> You most certainly have a purpose to move the content, make sure it is a
> done properly and for the right reasons.


When you redirect with status 301, the older page will, in due time, expire
and disappear from index/cache. It might even seem unlikely that both
location will appear among the search results, unless the new location was
already indexed prior to redirection.

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Vieux 14/09/2006, 01h02   #8
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:46:34 GMT, Ignoramus7715
<ignoramus7715@NOSPAM.7715.invalid> wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:46:35 GMT, Big Bill <kruse@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:38:18 GMT, Ignoramus7715
>><ignoramus7715@NOSPAM.7715.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>Let's say that I have a page
>>>
>>>http://domain1.com/page1.html
>>>
>>>and that I want Google to know that it moved to
>>>
>>>http://domain2.com/page2.html
>>>
>>>that is, I want google to replace the former with the latter, in its
>>>search results, transfer pagerank, etc.
>>>
>>>I control both domain1 and domain2.
>>>
>>>thanks
>>>
>>>i

>>
>> Do a 301 redirect.
>>
>> BB

>
>Sounds good. Do you know for sure that it will work as I want?
>
>i


I assume so. That's the idea of a 301 as opposed to a 302, a 302 is a
temporary redirect while a 301 is permanent. There's different ways of
generating them according to what kind of server you're on. Bokma
knows more than anyone here.

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Vieux 14/09/2006, 01h02   #9
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:55:02 GMT, Ignoramus7715
<ignoramus7715@NOSPAM.7715.invalid> wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:51:58 +0200, tonnie <t.prasing@chello.nl> wrote:
>> Ignoramus7715 schreef:
>>> Let's say that I have a page
>>>
>>> http://domain1.com/page1.html
>>>
>>> and that I want Google to know that it moved to
>>>
>>> http://domain2.com/page2.html
>>>
>>> that is, I want google to replace the former with the latter, in its
>>> search results, transfer pagerank, etc.
>>>
>>> I control both domain1 and domain2.
>>>

>>
>> Depends on what server software your site is running, don't know exactly
>> how it can be done on a windows server, but with apache it could be done
>> with a redirect permanent in the .htaccess file.
>>
>> For example:
>>
>> Redirect permanent http://domain1.com/page1.html
>> http://domain2.com/page2.html
>>
>> Further more, pagerank won't be transfered but re-calculated.
>>
>> After having placed the redirect, you should be aware of the fact that
>> there are / could be still sites linking to the old location. Try to get
>> them changed by asking the webmasters to do so, at least for the ones
>> you know of.
>>

>
>I run linux/apache.
>
>OK, let's say that page1 is the top result in search for "foobar".
>
>If I do this permanent redirect (301), will page2 be on top of the
>search result?
>
>i


Maybe, maybe not. You do hear of sites dropping in rank for a time
after being 301'd. Some are reportedly good as they ever were. So it
may, or it may not. You know how the web is. A 301 is your best bet.

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