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Vieux 26/08/2006, 19h16   #1
Timmermans
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Hi,

I was looking for some keywords and suddenly Google presented it's
results in a different then usual way. It cuts the results into 3
using vertical deviders. Has anyone seen this before and if yes, any
idea why this is?

search for 'liable' on google.com or just follow the link;

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search


Kind Regards,
Steven

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Vieux 26/08/2006, 19h31   #2
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On 26 Aug 2006 11:16:04 -0700, "Timmermans"
<steventimmermans@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I was looking for some keywords and suddenly Google presented it's
>results in a different then usual way. It cuts the results into 3
>using vertical deviders. Has anyone seen this before and if yes, any
>idea why this is?
>
>search for 'liable' on google.com or just follow the link;
>
>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search
>
>
>Kind Regards,
>Steven


Why is it giving definitions?

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Vieux 26/08/2006, 19h34   #3
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On 26 Aug 2006 11:16:04 -0700, "Timmermans"
<steventimmermans@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I was looking for some keywords and suddenly Google presented it's
>results in a different then usual way. It cuts the results into 3
>using vertical deviders. Has anyone seen this before and if yes, any
>idea why this is?
>
>search for 'liable' on google.com or just follow the link;
>
>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search
>
>
>Kind Regards,
>Steven


Been like that for *ages*.

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Vieux 26/08/2006, 19h39   #4
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"Timmermans" <steventimmermans@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was looking for some keywords and suddenly Google presented it's
> results in a different then usual way. It cuts the results into 3
> using vertical deviders. Has anyone seen this before and if yes, any
> idea why this is?


Yes, this has been around for months and months. Can't recall the first
time I saw it, maybe last year even.

It presents an alternative, you can say it's a refinement of "did you
mean".

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Vieux 29/08/2006, 04h02   #5
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John Bokma wrote:
> "Timmermans" <steventimmermans@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was looking for some keywords and suddenly Google presented it's
> > results in a different then usual way. It cuts the results into 3
> > using vertical deviders. Has anyone seen this before and if yes, any
> > idea why this is?

>
> Yes, this has been around for months and months. Can't recall the first
> time I saw it, maybe last year even.
>
> It presents an alternative, you can say it's a refinement of "did you
> mean".
>
> --
> John Experienced Perl programmer: http://castleamber.com/
>
> Apache on XP: http://johnbokma.com/windows/apache-...-hosts-xp.html


For months and months? I have avoided it pretty good then, it's the
first time see it. Then again, I have been concentrating on MSN and
Yahoo lately. Is it an experiment or something? Is this how
everything will eventually be displayed?

I do not see the advantages of this. If they devide the first results
page up in three... then yeah sure, you have three different number 1
results. But where before a top 10 position would give you a spot on
the first page of the results, you now need at least a top 4 or better
a top 3 result. And then be lucky you end up in the first mentioned
category. Best position for a number 1 result in the third category
would actually display a site as seventh result. That is not very
motivating.

I would prefer the most relevant result first, nevermind the multiple
choices.

Steven

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Vieux 29/08/2006, 04h32   #6
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"Timmermans" <steventimmermans@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

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> For months and months?


Yup. Others stated similar time frames, so yeah :-)

> I have avoided it pretty good then, it's the
> first time see it. Then again, I have been concentrating on MSN and
> Yahoo lately.


Yeah, I use Google a lot for searching. Still the main SE here.

> Is it an experiment or something?


Everything @ Google is beta isn't it? But I think it's fair to state that
it's not an experiment since it's out in the wild. It might be refined
though, I guess.

> Is this how
> everything will eventually be displayed?


No, I think it's mostly used when Google "thinks" that the user looking
for "A" is actually looking for "B" and "Did you mean:" isn't the right
option.

> I do not see the advantages of this.


From a SEO point of view? :-D.

> If they devide the first results
> page up in three... then yeah sure, you have three different number 1
> results. But where before a top 10 position would give you a spot on
> the first page of the results, you now need at least a top 4 or better
> a top 3 result.


Depends on what the visitor is looking for. Maybe we can come up with a
list of phrases that trigger this effect so we can analyze it better? I
have the feeling that it's often presented as a suggestion: you searched
for "A" but maybe you actually want "B"?

> And then be lucky you end up in the first mentioned
> category. Best position for a number 1 result in the third category
> would actually display a site as seventh result. That is not very
> motivating.
>
> I would prefer the most relevant result first, nevermind the multiple
> choices.


But Google "thinks" that the alternatives are more relevant compared to
more of the same ;-)


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Vieux 29/08/2006, 08h12   #7
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On 29 Aug 2006 03:32:23 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:

>"Timmermans" <steventimmermans@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>[ split results ]
>
>> For months and months?

>
>Yup. Others stated similar time frames, so yeah :-)
>
>> I have avoided it pretty good then, it's the
>> first time see it. Then again, I have been concentrating on MSN and
>> Yahoo lately.

>
>Yeah, I use Google a lot for searching. Still the main SE here.
>
>> Is it an experiment or something?

>
>Everything @ Google is beta isn't it? But I think it's fair to state that
>it's not an experiment since it's out in the wild. It might be refined
>though, I guess.
>
>> Is this how
>> everything will eventually be displayed?

>
>No, I think it's mostly used when Google "thinks" that the user looking
>for "A" is actually looking for "B" and "Did you mean:" isn't the right
>option.
>
>> I do not see the advantages of this.

>
>From a SEO point of view? :-D.
>
>> If they devide the first results
>> page up in three... then yeah sure, you have three different number 1
>> results. But where before a top 10 position would give you a spot on
>> the first page of the results, you now need at least a top 4 or better
>> a top 3 result.

>
>Depends on what the visitor is looking for. Maybe we can come up with a
>list of phrases that trigger this effect so we can analyze it better? I
>have the feeling that it's often presented as a suggestion: you searched
>for "A" but maybe you actually want "B"?
>
>> And then be lucky you end up in the first mentioned
>> category. Best position for a number 1 result in the third category
>> would actually display a site as seventh result. That is not very
>> motivating.
>>
>> I would prefer the most relevant result first, nevermind the multiple
>> choices.

>
>But Google "thinks" that the alternatives are more relevant compared to
>more of the same ;-)


This may well be an example of Google struggling to implement LSI. Did
they (the searcher) when searching for this word really mean this word
or this word? Let's give them the choice and see which they click.
Repeat as necessary till you have enough examples to be able to make
determinations.

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