I feel I am good at SEO but not perfect by a long way, (my own site
needs a lot of work and considering even getting it SEOed)
I know the basics such as these:
http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/inte...ng-factors.htm
I have the the basic tools for analysis etc.
I am pretty good at programming.
I even have some sites that are number 1 or first page google.
However, I need to know more...
Besides this forum what other ways are there to learn the real secrets
that the top SEO people do. Such as...
www.bruceclay.com
www.highrankings.com
www.submitexpress.com

These site have been at the of google top for ages and charge big money
for seo.
However, a lot of SEO is straight foward. Are they recommending things
that I do not know, or simply have a plan for creating links and pages
in a semi-automated fashion to achieve top results for their cleints? I
still have not determined the real story of how these SEOs achieve top
results for their cleints. ie top 10 in google for keywords that are
very sought after.
Thank you,
Mark

On 26 Aug 2006 10:05:07 -0700, markbiernat@yahoo.com wrote:

>I feel I am good at SEO but not perfect by a long way, (my own site
>needs a lot of work and considering even getting it SEOed)
>I know the basics such as these:
>http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/inte...ng-factors.htm
>I have the the basic tools for analysis etc.
>I am pretty good at programming.
>I even have some sites that are number 1 or first page google.
>However, I need to know more...
>Besides this forum what other ways are there to learn the real secrets
>that the top SEO people do. Such as...
>www.bruceclay.com
>www.highrankings.com
>www.submitexpress.com
>
>These site have been at the of google top for ages and charge big money
>for seo.
>However, a lot of SEO is straight foward. Are they recommending things
>that I do not know, or simply have a plan for creating links and pages
>in a semi-automated fashion to achieve top results for their cleints? I
>still have not determined the real story of how these SEOs achieve top
>results for their cleints. ie top 10 in google for keywords that are
>very sought after.

Who says they do? Charging a lot for seo isn't the same as delivering
high ranking in competitive serps. What clients have they recently got
they've that they've got top ranks for in hard serps?

BB
--

http://www.crystal-liaison.com/comfo...les/index.html
http://www.crystal-liaison.com/cryst...-new-york.html
http://www.kruse.co.uk/search-engine...n-firms-uk.htm

markbiernat@yahoo.com wrote:

> I feel I am good at SEO but not perfect by a long way, (my own site
> needs a lot of work and considering even getting it SEOed)
> I know the basics such as these:
> http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/inte...ng-factors.htm
> I have the the basic tools for analysis etc.
> I am pretty good at programming.
> I even have some sites that are number 1 or first page google.
> However, I need to know more...
> Besides this forum what other ways are there to learn the real secrets
> that the top SEO people do. Such as...
> www.bruceclay.com
> www.highrankings.com
> www.submitexpress.com
>
> These site have been at the of google top for ages

That's one secret. My site gets older, but also stronger. I get more
visitors, more people link to me, and I get more visitors. My site has its
own momentum now, and even if I pick my nose for months I am afraid I get
more visitors :-)

I don't use "tools", I just type an article, and often I score very well
without too much work.


--
John Experienced Perl programmer: http://castleamber.com/

http://johnbokma.com/perl/perl-quick...ence-card.html (draft)

After you write an article, do you submitt it to places like these?

http://www.weblinkseo.com/seo-guides...g-articles.jsp

Or do you just post it on your site or a place where an rss feed will
pick it up?

Further does anyone here use an rss to html software converter to
build pages?

>John Bokma wrote:

>I just type an article, and often I score very well without too much work.

markbiernat@yahoo.com wrote:

> After you write an article, do you submitt it to places like these?
>
> http://www.weblinkseo.com/seo-guides...g-articles.jsp

No. There are of course places to advertise new articles. I use amongst
others Usenet and my own RSS feed.

> Or do you just post it on your site or a place where an rss feed will
> pick it up?

Yup, not "or" but also.

> Further does anyone here use an rss to html software converter to
> build pages?

I would strongly advice against this. It's 2nd hand, 3rd hand or even
worse content. Sure, it's a piece of cake to add. But remember, if it
comes easy, everybody can do it.

--
John Need with SEO? Get started with a SEO report of your site:

--> http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/seo-expert-.html