Do sites from free domains get indexed well? I have a client that has
a free domain at bravehost.com. I am not sure what I can do to improve
his page ranking with a free domain. There are many site improvements
that I can make for him, and he already has a number of links (out, I
still have to find out if there are any INTO his site). But what kidn
of results can I predict, outside of some SEO on the page with a free
domain. (IE, can I offer him any chance at being within the first few
pages in google and other serch engines?

Thanks,

On 22 Aug 2006 06:31:42 -0700, "ppcqueen" <annalynn12000@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Do sites from free domains get indexed well?

Nope. Engines want to use their expensive resources to index stuff
that folk are serious about. Free? they'll say. Ptooie! they'll say.
Pay for hosting already!

> I have a client that has
>a free domain at bravehost.com. I am not sure what I can do to improve
>his page ranking with a free domain. There are many site improvements
>that I can make for him, and he already has a number of links (out, I
>still have to find out if there are any INTO his site). But what kidn
>of results can I predict, outside of some SEO on the page with a free
>domain. (IE, can I offer him any chance at being within the first few
>pages in google and other serch engines?

Unlikely unless it's for some bizarre term where the serps are
exclusively peopled by cheapos with freebie hosting.

BB

>Thanks,

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"Big Bill" <kruse@cityscape.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 22 Aug 2006 06:31:42 -0700, "ppcqueen" <annalynn12000@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Do sites from free domains get indexed well?
>
> Nope. Engines want to use their expensive resources to index stuff
> that folk are serious about. Free? they'll say. Ptooie! they'll say.
> Pay for hosting already!
>
>> I have a client that has
>>a free domain at bravehost.com. I am not sure what I can do to improve
>>his page ranking with a free domain. There are many site improvements
>>that I can make for him, and he already has a number of links (out, I
>>still have to find out if there are any INTO his site). But what kidn
>>of results can I predict, outside of some SEO on the page with a free
>>domain. (IE, can I offer him any chance at being within the first few
>>pages in google and other serch engines?
>
> Unlikely unless it's for some bizarre term where the serps are
> exclusively peopled by cheapos with freebie hosting.
>
> BB
>
>>Thanks,
>

Also, most directories will not accept listings from such sites - so that's
another source of links lost.

Domains are under $10/year, and hosting can easily be had for well under
$50/year - why doesn't he just get his own domain? If he's serious about his
website that's really the only thing it makes sense to do.

Denise

Big Bill wrote:
> On 22 Aug 2006 06:31:42 -0700, "ppcqueen" <annalynn12000@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Do sites from free domains get indexed well?
>
> Nope. Engines want to use their expensive resources to index stuff
> that folk are serious about. Free? they'll say. Ptooie! they'll say.
> Pay for hosting already!
>

lol, you need to check google & msn SERPS there's a LOT results from
free domains for high concurency keywords (more than 10mln results).

If you'll buy NEW domain, you will wait for several months to get good
ranking is SE. If you use free hosting (and know some tricks how to use
it right) you take over SERPs in a few days.

But of couse anyway you need to buy domain and start another site to
get more exposure, and link to it from free site to get a better look
for cusomers.


BoG ( http://www.seriousrevenue.com/ my SEO blog)

On 22-Aug-2006, i.cyber.lawyer@gmail.com wrote:

> >
> > >Do sites from free domains get indexed well?
> >

If it's an interesting minority interest site with unusual
or unique keywords that lots of people get interested in
it might do ok, and get fairly well ranked.
For instance a site about an unusual pet, or better
diseases of your unusual pet, with a few latin names
and medical terms thrown in for good measure.

If you want to sell stuff that has a lot of competition,
jewelry, watches, no-consultation prescription meds,
then a free domain isn't going get you far.
For that you would need a registered and properly
hosted domain, even then you would need to
know SEO techniques to rise above the (knowledgable)
competition.

So it depends on the content whether free domains
do well.
Be warned if your ISP registers a domain name
for free it will almost certainly be registered in their
name, not yours. Then you have fallen into a
trap. They can rip you off, impose a high penalty
if you want to leave them, or if it's successful
sell your domain name (with some petty excuse
that you failed to renew in time, or broke one of their
obscure terms and conditions)

On 22 Aug 2006 12:36:06 -0700, i.cyber.lawyer@gmail.com wrote:

>
>Big Bill wrote:
>> On 22 Aug 2006 06:31:42 -0700, "ppcqueen" <annalynn12000@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Do sites from free domains get indexed well?
>>
>> Nope. Engines want to use their expensive resources to index stuff
>> that folk are serious about. Free? they'll say. Ptooie! they'll say.
>> Pay for hosting already!
>>
>
>lol, you need to check google & msn SERPS there's a LOT results from
>free domains for high concurency keywords (more than 10mln results).
>
>If you'll buy NEW domain, you will wait for several months to get good
>ranking is SE. If you use free hosting (and know some tricks how to use
>it right) you take over SERPs in a few days.
>
>But of couse anyway you need to buy domain and start another site to
>get more exposure, and link to it from free site to get a better look
>for cusomers.
>
>
>BoG ( http://www.seriousrevenue.com/ my SEO blog)

This is the subdomain thing, isn't it, that you're referring to? I
thought that was on the way out now? Feel free to explain further,
Comrade...

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> If you'll buy NEW domain, you will wait for several months to get good
> ranking is SE. If you use free hosting (and know some tricks how to use
> it right) you take over SERPs in a few days.
>
> But of couse anyway you need to buy domain and start another site to
> get more exposure, and link to it from free site to get a better look
> for cusomers.
>

What "tricks" would you recomend? Would regular SEO be as ful as
anything?

Anna

"ppcqueen" <annalynn12000@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> If you'll buy NEW domain, you will wait for several months to get good
>> ranking is SE. If you use free hosting (and know some tricks how to use
>> it right) you take over SERPs in a few days.
>>
>> But of couse anyway you need to buy domain and start another site to
>> get more exposure, and link to it from free site to get a better look
>> for cusomers.
>>
>
> What "tricks" would you recomend? Would regular SEO be as ful as
> anything?

Yes, do a 301 redirect to a final domain, as freebies will gain exposure ok
but it lacks on relevancy as the freebie domain is about everything and to
much!

Stacey
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<i.cyber.lawyer@gmail.com> wrote ...
> If you'll buy NEW domain, you will wait for several months to get good
> ranking is SE. If you use free hosting (and know some tricks how to use
> it right) you take over SERPs in a few days.

There is nothing a free hosted subdomain can do that a stand-alone domain
cannot, so far as the SEs are concerned, it's just another domain.

And for all other purposes, you'd be worse off playing with free sites for
business purposes.

I think what you mean is "when using spam methods, throway sites avoid
risking the main site" - which is, of course, true. But once you've hacked
around for a few months and got spam.freedomain.com ooff the ground, what
good will it do? most spam sites have such a short shelf life, it's still a
waste of time and effort.

"If the average spammer used their brains honestly, instead of cheating,
they'd probably get rich much quicker - and sleep easier"

Cheers,
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Andrew Heenan wrote:
> There is nothing a free hosted subdomain can do that a stand-alone domain
> cannot, so far as the SEs are concerned, it's just another domain.
Teoretically - yes, but in practice SE concern new subdomain (on
existant good domain) and new domain differently. It's all about
trust. You can get trust with a new domain from the ground.

> And for all other purposes, you'd be worse off playing with free sites for
> business purposes.
it's depend on bussiness ;-)

> I think what you mean is "when using spam methods, throway sites avoid
> risking the main site" - which is, of course, true. But once you've hacked
> around for a few months and got spam.freedomain.com ooff the ground, what
> good will it do? most spam sites have such a short shelf life, it's still a
> waste of time and effort.
You'll earn enough money and can have new domain in SERPs to this
moment.
P.S. and I don't talked about spam methods here. It's all just about
speed when using white hat methods.

p.s. sorry for bad english. http://www.seriousrevenue.com/ BoG

On 27 Aug 2006 05:55:07 -0700, i.cyber.lawyer@gmail.com wrote:

>
>Andrew Heenan wrote:
>> There is nothing a free hosted subdomain can do that a stand-alone domain
>> cannot, so far as the SEs are concerned, it's just another domain.
>Teoretically - yes, but in practice SE concern new subdomain (on
>existant good domain) and new domain differently. It's all about
>trust. You can get trust with a new domain from the ground.
>
>> And for all other purposes, you'd be worse off playing with free sites for
>> business purposes.
>it's depend on bussiness ;-)
>
>> I think what you mean is "when using spam methods, throway sites avoid
>> risking the main site" - which is, of course, true. But once you've hacked
>> around for a few months and got spam.freedomain.com ooff the ground, what
>> good will it do? most spam sites have such a short shelf life, it's still a
>> waste of time and effort.
>You'll earn enough money and can have new domain in SERPs to this
>moment.
>P.S. and I don't talked about spam methods here. It's all just about
>speed when using white hat methods.
>
>p.s. sorry for bad english. http://www.seriousrevenue.com/ BoG

That's ok, we're used to Stacey:-)

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"Big Bill" <kruse@cityscape.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 27 Aug 2006 05:55:07 -0700, i.cyber.lawyer@gmail.com wrote:
>
<snip>

>>p.s. sorry for bad english. http://www.seriousrevenue.com/ BoG
>
> That's ok, we're used to Stacey:-)
>
> BB

To understand why Bill can't understand to much read his site. His ramblings
for the most part don't make sense to the normal reader!

Stacey

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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:12:19 +0200, Jezsta Web Productions
<Please-use-our-contact-form@jezsta.com> wrote:

>>> p.s. sorry for bad english. http://www.seriousrevenue.com/ BoG
>>
>> That's ok, we're used to Stacey:-)

> To understand why Bill can't understand to much read his site. His
> ramblings for the most part don't make sense to the normal reader!

Truth is - I have never problems understanding Bill, occasionally I have
no idea what you are writing about And I am referring to English

Best,
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"Borek" <m.borkowski@delete.chembuddy.these.com.parts> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:12:19 +0200, Jezsta Web Productions
> <Please-use-our-contact-form@jezsta.com> wrote:
>
>>>> p.s. sorry for bad english. http://www.seriousrevenue.com/ BoG
>>>
>>> That's ok, we're used to Stacey:-)
>
>> To understand why Bill can't understand to much read his site. His
>> ramblings for the most part don't make sense to the normal reader!
>
> Truth is - I have never problems understanding Bill, occasionally I have
> no idea what you are writing about And I am referring to English

For you, and sometimes maybe others. Truth is and has been stated by more
than me Bill's ramblings do not make sense. You might understand the English
but not understand what is said. Also plain and simple if you don't
understand or someone makes an error ask what they meant and they will let
you in a different way of what they meant.

If you don't understand my theories at times that is fine. Maybe I don't
want people to understand them totally, because if they can't understand
them the way I stated then they don't need to know the rest. If you don't
understand what I am saying now then sod it, I really don't give a squat!

Stacey
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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:58:36 +0200, "Jezsta Web Productions"
<Please-use-our-contact-form@jezsta.com> wrote:

>"Borek" <m.borkowski@delete.chembuddy.these.com.parts> wrote in message
>newsp.tex5tav626l578@borek...
>> On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:12:19 +0200, Jezsta Web Productions
>> <Please-use-our-contact-form@jezsta.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> p.s. sorry for bad english. http://www.seriousrevenue.com/ BoG
>>>>
>>>> That's ok, we're used to Stacey:-)
>>
>>> To understand why Bill can't understand to much read his site. His
>>> ramblings for the most part don't make sense to the normal reader!
>>
>> Truth is - I have never problems understanding Bill, occasionally I have
>> no idea what you are writing about And I am referring to English
>
>For you, and sometimes maybe others. Truth is and has been stated by more
>than me Bill's ramblings do not make sense.

You and SEO Dave. Paul maybe.

> You might understand the English
>but not understand what is said.

Others seem to. If some things in life pass you by, well... I doubt
few here would be overly surprised.

BB
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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:36:05 GMT, Big Bill <kruse@cityscape.co.uk>
wrote:

>>For you, and sometimes maybe others. Truth is and has been stated by more
>>than me Bill's ramblings do not make sense.
>
>You and SEO Dave. Paul maybe.

You do come across at times where I thought you have been eating a
certain type of mushroom.
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"Big Bill" <kruse@cityscape.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:58:36 +0200, "Jezsta Web Productions"
> <Please-use-our-contact-form@jezsta.com> wrote:
<snip>

>>For you, and sometimes maybe others. Truth is and has been stated by more
>>than me Bill's ramblings do not make sense.
>
> You and SEO Dave. Paul maybe.

LOL!!! Trust me Bill there are others.:-)

>> You might understand the English
>>but not understand what is said.
>
> Others seem to. If some things in life pass you by, well... I doubt
> few here would be overly surprised.

Nothing of importance in my life passes by me Bill. I live life to the
fullest I can. I experience things only others dream. If I reach one goal I
set the goal higher. In everything I do I do to the best of my ability and
never give up. So if something passes by it is because I let it as I have
found no use in it.

Stacey
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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:42:23 +0200, "Jezsta Web Productions"
<Please-use-our-contact-form@jezsta.com> wrote:

>"Big Bill" <kruse@cityscape.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:coe3f2dlmjsj63pglk7catqk0hdie01g33@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:58:36 +0200, "Jezsta Web Productions"
>> <Please-use-our-contact-form@jezsta.com> wrote:
><snip>
>
>>>For you, and sometimes maybe others. Truth is and has been stated by more
>>>than me Bill's ramblings do not make sense.
>>
>> You and SEO Dave. Paul maybe.
>
>LOL!!! Trust me Bill there are others.:-)
>
>>> You might understand the English
>>>but not understand what is said.
>>
>> Others seem to. If some things in life pass you by, well... I doubt
>> few here would be overly surprised.
>
>Nothing of importance in my life passes by me Bill. I live life to the
>fullest I can. I experience things only others dream. If I reach one goal I
>set the goal higher. In everything I do I do to the best of my ability and
>never give up. So if something passes by it is because I let it as I have
>found no use in it.
>
>Stacey

Zzzzzz...

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