Hi

Does people "report" sites to google, if they think their are only build for
ad-purposes ? I've got one site like that that I do some hobby testing on,
and again, one more of my sites, has seen a 90% drop from one day to the
other. I was thinking, can someone "report" sites to google, and thus the
drop ? It's really strange, I've now seen 3 sites drop like that !

Rgds
Jakob

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:37:06 +0200, ".:J:."
<MONKEYselskab-at-bigfoot.com> wrote:

>Hi
>
>Does people "report" sites to google, if they think their are only build for
>ad-purposes ?

Yes.
In fact I reported one myself the other day.
Google like others to report sites that break TOS etc.

hth
plh
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Paul wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:37:06 +0200, ".:J:."
> <MONKEYselskab-at-bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi
> >
> >Does people "report" sites to google, if they think their are only build for
> >ad-purposes ?
>
> Yes.
> In fact I reported one myself the other day.
> Google like others to report sites that break TOS etc.
>
> hth
> plh
> Paul
>
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someone shoudl create a firefox toolbar that automatically submits the
active page to spam reports

*hint hint*

Mark

On 18 Aug 2006 04:59:10 -0700, "mark r" <markrush@gmail.com> wrote:

>someone shoudl create a firefox toolbar that automatically submits the
>active page to spam reports
>
>*hint hint*

Google *could* add it to theirs.

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Paul wrote:
> On 18 Aug 2006 04:59:10 -0700, "mark r" <markrush@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >someone shoudl create a firefox toolbar that automatically submits the
> >active page to spam reports
> >
> >*hint hint*
>
> Google *could* add it to theirs.
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soe one go give matt cutts a dig then

On 18 Aug 2006 06:31:14 -0700, "mark r" <markrush@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Paul wrote:
>> On 18 Aug 2006 04:59:10 -0700, "mark r" <markrush@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >someone shoudl create a firefox toolbar that automatically submits the
>> >active page to spam reports
>> >
>> >*hint hint*
>>
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>soe one go give matt cutts a dig then

Actually I understand the bear, fresh from the woods, is working on a
beta version.

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On 18 Aug 2006 06:31:14 -0700, "mark r" <markrush@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Paul wrote:
>> On 18 Aug 2006 04:59:10 -0700, "mark r" <markrush@gmail.com> wrote:
>>

>soe one go give matt cutts a dig then

why ?
I like Matt.
We need more of him.

plh
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Op 18 Aug 2006 04:59:10 -0700 schreef mark r:

> Paul wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:37:06 +0200, ".:J:."
>> <MONKEYselskab-at-bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>Does people "report" sites to google, if they think their are only build for
>>>ad-purposes ?
>>
>> Yes.
>> In fact I reported one myself the other day.
>> Google like others to report sites that break TOS etc.
>>
>> hth
>> plh
>> Paul
>>
>>>
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> someone shoudl create a firefox toolbar that automatically submits the
> active page to spam reports
>
> *hint hint*
>
> Mark

That would be a very very bad idea. It would overload the Google abuse desk
with reports of trigger happy whiners who are too lazy to file a proper
complaint. And I'm telling you, the next thing that happens is that
somebody else writes a system tray proggie that detects things that he
doesn't like and the complaints are automatically sent to Google.
Unattended spam reporting, and all his trigger happy lazy friends start
using it.

It's the same way the spamhaus and spamcop blacklists became totally
unrelyable.

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> On 18 Aug 2006 06:31:14 -0700, "mark r" <markrush@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Paul wrote:
>>> On 18 Aug 2006 04:59:10 -0700, "mark r" <markrush@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>
>>soe one go give matt cutts a dig then
>
> why ?
> I like Matt.
> We need more of him.
>
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How can I find out if my page has been "reported" then ?

Cheers

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:11:18 +0200, ".:J:."
<MONKEYselskab-at-bigfoot.com> wrote:

>
>"Paul" <lamewolf2004[REMOVE]@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:fdibe2l1cgmso2i8bq9nqd2mplubp5mgck@4ax.com.. .
>> On 18 Aug 2006 06:31:14 -0700, "mark r" <markrush@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Paul wrote:
>>>> On 18 Aug 2006 04:59:10 -0700, "mark r" <markrush@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>
>>>soe one go give matt cutts a dig then
>>
>> why ?
>> I like Matt.
>> We need more of him.
>>
>> plh
>> Paul


>How can I find out if my page has been "reported" then ?
>
>Cheers

They will contact you. Normally. Esp if they close your account.

The one I reported has removed most of the adverts. So it looks like
they wrote to them as a warning.

hth
plh
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> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:37:06 +0200, ".:J:."
> <MONKEYselskab-at-bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>Does people "report" sites to google, if they think their are only build
>>for
>>ad-purposes ?
>
> Yes.
> In fact I reported one myself the other day.
> Google like others to report sites that break TOS etc.
>
> hth
> plh
> Paul


Mmmm, my site still has 700 pages in google, allthough a bit less than the
one thousand that is on the site.

Weird, a drop from one day to the other

J

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:18:45 +0200, ".:J:."
<MONKEYselskab-at-bigfoot.com> wrote:

>
>"Paul" <lamewolf2004[REMOVE]@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:s8abe25jsfcur243tp33dgfr92qkqjeemo@4ax.com.. .
>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:37:06 +0200, ".:J:."
>> <MONKEYselskab-at-bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>Does people "report" sites to google, if they think their are only build
>>>for
>>>ad-purposes ?
>>
>> Yes.
>> In fact I reported one myself the other day.
>> Google like others to report sites that break TOS etc.
>>
>> hth
>> plh
>> Paul
>
>
>Mmmm, my site still has 700 pages in google, allthough a bit less than the
>one thousand that is on the site.
>
>Weird, a drop from one day to the other
>
>J

What's that to do with reporting scam sites ?
plh
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:22:09 +0100, Paul
<lamewolf2004[REMOVE]@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:18:45 +0200, ".:J:."
><MONKEYselskab-at-bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Paul" <lamewolf2004[REMOVE]@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:s8abe25jsfcur243tp33dgfr92qkqjeemo@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:37:06 +0200, ".:J:."
>>> <MONKEYselskab-at-bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi
>>>>
>>>>Does people "report" sites to google, if they think their are only build
>>>>for
>>>>ad-purposes ?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>> In fact I reported one myself the other day.
>>> Google like others to report sites that break TOS etc.
>>>
>>> hth
>>> plh
>>> Paul
>>
>>
>>Mmmm, my site still has 700 pages in google, allthough a bit less than the
>>one thousand that is on the site.
>>
>>Weird, a drop from one day to the other
>>
>>J
>
>What's that to do with reporting scam sites ?
>plh
>Paul

He thinks he got reported.

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:50:25 GMT, John A.
<no.john@spammers.virg.iniaqu.ilter.allowed.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:22:09 +0100, Paul
><lamewolf2004[REMOVE]@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:18:45 +0200, ".:J:."
>><MONKEYselskab-at-bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Paul" <lamewolf2004[REMOVE]@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:s8abe25jsfcur243tp33dgfr92qkqjeemo@4ax.com ...
>>>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:37:06 +0200, ".:J:."
>>>> <MONKEYselskab-at-bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>Does people "report" sites to google, if they think their are only build
>>>>>for
>>>>>ad-purposes ?
>>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>> In fact I reported one myself the other day.
>>>> Google like others to report sites that break TOS etc.
>>>>
>>>> hth
>>>> plh
>>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>Mmmm, my site still has 700 pages in google, allthough a bit less than the
>>>one thousand that is on the site.
>>>
>>>Weird, a drop from one day to the other
>>>
>>>J
>>
>>What's that to do with reporting scam sites ?
>>plh
>>Paul
>
>He thinks he got reported.

That has nothing to do wth pages dropping if he has adsense, surely ?
They would either warn him, or close the adsense account, not drop
pages from index.

plh
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>>
>>Mmmm, my site still has 700 pages in google, allthough a bit less than the
>>one thousand that is on the site.
>>
>>Weird, a drop from one day to the other
>>
>>J
>
> What's that to do with reporting scam sites ?
> plh
> Paul
>

I thought that a report could have removed my pages from googles results. I
thought someone "reported" my site for breaking the adsense rules.

Jakob

>>>What's that to do with reporting scam sites ?
>>>plh
>>>Paul
>>
>>He thinks he got reported.
>
> That has nothing to do wth pages dropping if he has adsense, surely ?
> They would either warn him, or close the adsense account, not drop
> pages from index.
>
> plh
> Paul
>
> --


Right then. How on earth can I explain the sudden drop. It was a 90% drop
from one day to the other ?

Cheers
J

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:29:48 +0200, ".:J:."
<MONKEYselskab-at-bigfoot.com> wrote:

>>>>What's that to do with reporting scam sites ?
>>>>plh
>>>>Paul
>>>
>>>He thinks he got reported.
>>
>> That has nothing to do wth pages dropping if he has adsense, surely ?
>> They would either warn him, or close the adsense account, not drop
>> pages from index.
>>
>> plh
>> Paul
>>
>> --
>
>
>Right then. How on earth can I explain the sudden drop. It was a 90% drop
>from one day to the other ?
>
>Cheers
>J


Right then,
IS your site a scam site ? After all, that was your subject header.
If it was, then you knew you were doing wrong and you cannot complain.

If there was no way on earth that is was, then ;
1: You should have used a different subject header.
2: You were not punished.

You were not clear on "90% drop from one day to the other"

90% of what ?
visitors ?
loss of adsense earnings ?

If loss of visitors, then adsense wasn't your problem.
If it is loss of earnings with roughly the same amount of clicks, then
that could be for a number of reasons.

I had adsense a while ago. Was earning double figures per day. All of
a sudden my earnings were half of what I was earning.

Don't forget there is a click fraud algo and I think it is already out
there.

There are lots of factors.
Contact google if you think there is a problem.

plh
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:29:48 +0200, ".:J:."
<MONKEYselskab-at-bigfoot.com> wrote:

>>>>What's that to do with reporting scam sites ?
>>>>plh
>>>>Paul
>>>
>>>He thinks he got reported.
>>
>> That has nothing to do wth pages dropping if he has adsense, surely ?
>> They would either warn him, or close the adsense account, not drop
>> pages from index.
>>
>> plh
>> Paul
>>
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>
>Right then. How on earth can I explain the sudden drop. It was a 90% drop
>from one day to the other ?
>
>Cheers
>J

New algo.

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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:01:50 +0100, Paul
<lamewolf2004[REMOVE]@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:50:25 GMT, John A.
><no.john@spammers.virg.iniaqu.ilter.allowed.com > wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:22:09 +0100, Paul
>><lamewolf2004[REMOVE]@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:18:45 +0200, ".:J:."
>>><MONKEYselskab-at-bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Paul" <lamewolf2004[REMOVE]@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:s8abe25jsfcur243tp33dgfr92qkqjeemo@4ax.co m...
>>>>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:37:06 +0200, ".:J:."
>>>>> <MONKEYselskab-at-bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Does people "report" sites to google, if they think their are only build
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>ad-purposes ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>> In fact I reported one myself the other day.
>>>>> Google like others to report sites that break TOS etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> hth
>>>>> plh
>>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mmmm, my site still has 700 pages in google, allthough a bit less than the
>>>>one thousand that is on the site.
>>>>
>>>>Weird, a drop from one day to the other
>>>>
>>>>J
>>>
>>>What's that to do with reporting scam sites ?
>>>plh
>>>Paul
>>
>>He thinks he got reported.
>
>That has nothing to do wth pages dropping if he has adsense, surely ?
>They would either warn him, or close the adsense account, not drop
>pages from index.
>
>plh
>Paul

For a while now there's been a new adsense algo and it means pages go
overnight. This is my impression.

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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:35:13 GMT, Big Bill <kruse@cityscape.co.uk>
wrote:

>For a while now there's been a new adsense algo and it means pages go
>overnight. This is my impression.

What do you mean go overnight ?
I only had adsense on about 5 pages out of 5000.
I saw the same amount of clicks, but getting paid far less for them.
None of the pages disappeared.

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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:36:36 +0100, Paul
<lamewolf2004[REMOVE]@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:35:13 GMT, Big Bill <kruse@cityscape.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>For a while now there's been a new adsense algo and it means pages go
>>overnight. This is my impression.
>
>What do you mean go overnight ?
>I only had adsense on about 5 pages out of 5000.
>I saw the same amount of clicks, but getting paid far less for them.

I've heard of this happening too. A lot. Am I the only one who reads
things outside this group?

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On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:30:14 +0200, Big Bill <kruse@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:

>>> For a while now there's been a new adsense algo and it means pages go
>>> overnight. This is my impression.
>>
>> What do you mean go overnight ?
>> I only had adsense on about 5 pages out of 5000.
>> I saw the same amount of clicks, but getting paid far less for them.
>
> I've heard of this happening too. A lot. Am I the only one who reads
> things outside this group?

While I believe others may see it, I don't - I have reasonably stable
number of clicks and reasonably stable income. YMMV.

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On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:06:05 +0200, Borek
<m.borkowski@delete.chembuddy.these.com.parts> wrote:

>On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:30:14 +0200, Big Bill <kruse@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>> For a while now there's been a new adsense algo and it means pages go
>>>> overnight. This is my impression.
>>>
>>> What do you mean go overnight ?
>>> I only had adsense on about 5 pages out of 5000.
>>> I saw the same amount of clicks, but getting paid far less for them.
>>
>> I've heard of this happening too. A lot. Am I the only one who reads
>> things outside this group?
>
>While I believe others may see it, I don't - I have reasonably stable
>number of clicks and reasonably stable income. YMMV.
>
>Best,
>Borek

It's interesting that there's variants. I wouldn't know enough about
it to know why, though, I don't think anyone's done a study that I
know of.

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> Right then,
> IS your site a scam site ? After all, that was your subject header.
> If it was, then you knew you were doing wrong and you cannot complain.
>
> If there was no way on earth that is was, then ;
> 1: You should have used a different subject header.
> 2: You were not punished.
>
> You were not clear on "90% drop from one day to the other"
>
> 90% of what ?
> visitors ?
> loss of adsense earnings ?
>
> If loss of visitors, then adsense wasn't your problem.
> If it is loss of earnings with roughly the same amount of clicks, then
> that could be for a number of reasons.
>
> I had adsense a while ago. Was earning double figures per day. All of
> a sudden my earnings were half of what I was earning.
>
> Don't forget there is a click fraud algo and I think it is already out
> there.
>
> There are lots of factors.
> Contact google if you think there is a problem.
>
> plh
> Paul


Right. My site was build with ads in mind. I'm not really complaining, since
it's only a test site, but curious to find a reason and learn from that.

The 90% was a traffic drop. Adsense just follows the drop relatively.

So, I was wondering about the reason for the drop. I saw on three sites on
one day, one specific IP sucking all pages. Could it've been copied,
published, and thus be taking the same traffic on another site ?

Cheers

>
> It's interesting that there's variants. I wouldn't know enough about
> it to know why, though, I don't think anyone's done a study that I
> know of.
>
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Study or not, I can compare my sites, and three sites at least has made that
drop now. It's not an academic studiy

Jakob