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Vieux 14/08/2006, 17h49   #1
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To google or not to google? It's a legal question

,----[ Quote ]
| Search engine giant Google, known for its mantra "don't be evil",
| has fired off a series of legal letters to media organisations, warning
| them against using its name as a verb.
`----

http://news.independent.co.uk/busine...cle1218805.ece

Shouldn't they just blame Webster?
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Vieux 14/08/2006, 18h19   #2
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> ,----[ Quote ]
> | Search engine giant Google, known for its mantra "don't be evil",
> | has fired off a series of legal letters to media organisations, warning
> | them against using its name as a verb.
> `----


Bollocks to them. Everyone hoovers, whether or not with a Hoover.

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Vieux 14/08/2006, 18h26   #3
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__/ [ Phil Payne ] on Monday 14 August 2006 17:19 \__

>> ,----[ Quote ]
>> | Search engine giant Google, known for its mantra "don't be evil",
>> | has fired off a series of legal letters to media organisations, warning
>> | them against using its name as a verb.
>> `----

>
> Bollocks to them. Everyone hoovers, whether or not with a Hoover.


Personally, I think they deter businesses from delivering some free
advertisements. As in Xeron... or Podcast... among many other examples. On
the other hand, it can lead to suspicion that there is a monopoly here,
which can drive prospective customers away... Very similar to a scenario of
excessive advertisement, which makes loyal customers feel betrayed. Makes
brainwash appear like a dominating factor in the choice. Think about Coca
Cola... or even the reluctance to ever advertise GNU/Linux.
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Vieux 14/08/2006, 18h50   #4
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Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote:

> To google or not to google? It's a legal question
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
>| Search engine giant Google, known for its mantra "don't be evil",
>| has fired off a series of legal letters to media organisations, warning
>| them against using its name as a verb.
> `----


They can google it up their asses for all I care.

Adobe also doesn't like how we photoshop :-D.

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Vieux 14/08/2006, 19h18   #5
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__/ [ John Bokma ] on Monday 14 August 2006 17:50 \__

> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>
>> To google or not to google? It's a legal question
>>
>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>| Search engine giant Google, known for its mantra "don't be evil",
>>| has fired off a series of legal letters to media organisations, warning
>>| them against using its name as a verb.
>> `----

>
> They can google it up their asses for all I care.
>
> Adobe also doesn't like how we photoshop :-D.


I wonder if you saw that in Digg too (link to Adobe's site). Some guy in
another newsgroup added intentional misuse of 'photoshop' to his .sig. Been
there ever since...
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Vieux 14/08/2006, 19h27   #6
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"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
news:2083223.MgGiKxoiSl@schestowitz.com...
> To google or not to google? It's a legal question
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | Search engine giant Google, known for its mantra "don't be evil",
> | has fired off a series of legal letters to media organisations, warning
> | them against using its name as a verb.
> `----
>
> http://news.independent.co.uk/busine...cle1218805.ece
>
> Shouldn't they just blame Webster?



I think it is a condition of trademarks that you have to
defend them, if they are seen to allow people to use it
they can lose the trademark.

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Vieux 14/08/2006, 19h47   #7
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On 14 Aug 2006 09:19:17 -0700, "Phil Payne"
<phil@isham-research.co.uk> wrote:

>> ,----[ Quote ]
>> | Search engine giant Google, known for its mantra "don't be evil",
>> | has fired off a series of legal letters to media organisations, warning
>> | them against using its name as a verb.
>> `----

>
>Bollocks to them. Everyone hoovers, whether or not with a Hoover.


They might reasonably not want it to become generic for web search, as
in "I Googled with MSN last night".

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Vieux 14/08/2006, 19h47   #8
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 17:26:38 +0100, Roy Schestowitz
<newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote:

>__/ [ Phil Payne ] on Monday 14 August 2006 17:19 \__
>
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>> | Search engine giant Google, known for its mantra "don't be evil",
>>> | has fired off a series of legal letters to media organisations, warning
>>> | them against using its name as a verb.
>>> `----

>>
>> Bollocks to them. Everyone hoovers, whether or not with a Hoover.

>
>Personally, I think they deter businesses from delivering some free
>advertisements. As in Xeron...


Surely Xerox?

I'm reminded of an episode of Hercules, where the lesser gods were
having a painting competiton. Hercules strode among them, admonishing
one thus; "Xerox - stop copying!"

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Vieux 14/08/2006, 20h21   #9
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Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote:

> __/ [ John Bokma ] on Monday 14 August 2006 17:50 \__
>
>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> To google or not to google? It's a legal question
>>>
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>| Search engine giant Google, known for its mantra "don't be evil",
>>>| has fired off a series of legal letters to media organisations,
>>>| warning them against using its name as a verb.
>>> `----

>>
>> They can google it up their asses for all I care.
>>
>> Adobe also doesn't like how we photoshop :-D.

>
> I wonder if you saw that in Digg too


No, I was aware of Adobe's verb dislike well before I had heard of digg
:-) There is no way to stop such things, let alone forbid it.

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Vieux 14/08/2006, 20h50   #10
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"T.J." <no1@home.invalid> wrote in
news:e4qdnVnLt-T1L33ZnZ2dnUVZ8qKdnZ2d@bt.com:

>
> "Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
> news:2083223.MgGiKxoiSl@schestowitz.com...
>> To google or not to google? It's a legal question
>>
>> ,----[ Quote ]
>> | Search engine giant Google, known for its mantra "don't be evil",
>> | has fired off a series of legal letters to media organisations,
>> | warning them against using its name as a verb.
>> `----
>>
>> http://news.independent.co.uk/busine...cle1218805.ece
>>
>> Shouldn't they just blame Webster?

>
>
> I think it is a condition of trademarks that you have to
> defend them, if they are seen to allow people to use it
> they can lose the trademark.
>


'tis true, at least here in the USA, that by not defending the trademark,
you're giving implicit consent to its use by others.


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Vieux 14/08/2006, 21h29   #11
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:50:33 -0500, Karl Groves
<karl@NOSPAMkarlcore.com> wrote:

>"T.J." <no1@home.invalid> wrote in
>news:e4qdnVnLt-T1L33ZnZ2dnUVZ8qKdnZ2d@bt.com:
>
>>
>> "Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
>> news:2083223.MgGiKxoiSl@schestowitz.com...
>>> To google or not to google? It's a legal question
>>>
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>> | Search engine giant Google, known for its mantra "don't be evil",
>>> | has fired off a series of legal letters to media organisations,
>>> | warning them against using its name as a verb.
>>> `----
>>>
>>> http://news.independent.co.uk/busine...cle1218805.ece
>>>
>>> Shouldn't they just blame Webster?

>>
>>
>> I think it is a condition of trademarks that you have to
>> defend them, if they are seen to allow people to use it
>> they can lose the trademark.
>>

>
>'tis true, at least here in the USA, that by not defending the trademark,
>you're giving implicit consent to its use by others.


Some here will remember when Viacom shut downloads of Star Trek sites
because otherwise their rights to the franchise would have gone into
the public domain. Instead of the toilet, where they seem to have
boldly gone.

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Vieux 15/08/2006, 03h57   #12
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__/ [ John Bokma ] on Monday 14 August 2006 19:21 \__

> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>
>> __/ [ John Bokma ] on Monday 14 August 2006 17:50 \__
>>
>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To google or not to google? It's a legal question
>>>>
>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>>| Search engine giant Google, known for its mantra "don't be evil",
>>>>| has fired off a series of legal letters to media organisations,
>>>>| warning them against using its name as a verb.
>>>> `----
>>>
>>> They can google it up their asses for all I care.
>>>
>>> Adobe also doesn't like how we photoshop :-D.

>>
>> I wonder if you saw that in Digg too

>
> No, I was aware of Adobe's verb dislike well before I had heard of digg
> :-) There is no way to stop such things, let alone forbid it.


You can try to stop it at a corporate level (or strip it off publications)...
just have a reign of terror! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Do know evil? (sic)

Best wishes,

Roy

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Vieux 15/08/2006, 04h00   #13
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__/ [ Big Bill ] on Monday 14 August 2006 20:29 \__

> On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:50:33 -0500, Karl Groves
> <karl@NOSPAMkarlcore.com> wrote:
>
>>"T.J." <no1@home.invalid> wrote in
>>news:e4qdnVnLt-T1L33ZnZ2dnUVZ8qKdnZ2d@bt.com:
>>
>>>
>>> "Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@schestowitz.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2083223.MgGiKxoiSl@schestowitz.com...
>>>> To google or not to google? It's a legal question
>>>>
>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>> | Search engine giant Google, known for its mantra "don't be evil",
>>>> | has fired off a series of legal letters to media organisations,
>>>> | warning them against using its name as a verb.
>>>> `----
>>>>
>>>> http://news.independent.co.uk/busine...cle1218805.ece
>>>>
>>>> Shouldn't they just blame Webster?
>>>
>>> I think it is a condition of trademarks that you have to
>>> defend them, if they are seen to allow people to use it
>>> they can lose the trademark.



Makes you wonder about Krugle (Google for code).


>>'tis true, at least here in the USA, that by not defending the trademark,
>>you're giving implicit consent to its use by others.



I guess that obscenities can't get you sued. Trademarks, on the other hand...


> Some here will remember when Viacom shut downloads of Star Trek sites
> because otherwise their rights to the franchise would have gone into
> the public domain. Instead of the toilet, where they seem to have
> boldly gone.



Never gone there before. Not boldly anyway.
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Vieux 15/08/2006, 15h46   #14
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Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> To google or not to google? It's a legal question


Isn't it already too late? After all it is being put into the next
edition dictionary as a transitive verb.

http://itvibe.com/news/4107/

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Vieux 16/08/2006, 01h53   #15
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__/ [ webseoguy ] on Tuesday 15 August 2006 14:46 \__

>
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> To google or not to google? It's a legal question

>
> Isn't it already too late? After all it is being put into the next
> edition dictionary as a transitive verb.
>
> http://itvibe.com/news/4107/


Maybe it's reversible.... who knows....
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Vieux 16/08/2006, 04h14   #16
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__/ [ Roy Schestowitz ] on Wednesday 16 August 2006 00:53 \__

> __/ [ webseoguy ] on Tuesday 15 August 2006 14:46 \__
>
>>
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>> To google or not to google? It's a legal question

>>
>> Isn't it already too late? After all it is being put into the next
>> edition dictionary as a transitive verb.
>>
>> http://itvibe.com/news/4107/

>
> Maybe it's reversible.... who knows....


Hey, check /this/ one out...

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-6105789.html

Apple: iPod means our pod

,----[ Quote ]
| Following Google's insistence that media outlets shouldn't be using the
| term "Googling," Apple Computer has become similarly protective over the
| word "pod."
`----

I can recall that they didn't like the little 'i' being used, but can they
ever get that copyrighted in some form? I have seen some products like an
iLap, which do not come from Apple.

iSueYou! iLlBeBack!

Then there's Adobe and PhotoShop. Their Web site cries over the misuse of the
product name...

Retruning to Google, also see:

http://www.fool.com/news/commentary/...gvisit=y&npu=y
How to Slay a Google

http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/15/tech...ce=yahoo_quote
Google's terrible twos

All articles from last night by the way...
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