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Vieux 08/03/2008, 18h51   #1
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Hello all,

I am considering buying a Wacom tablet. I'm not much of a sketch
artist or drawer, but rather I was wondering if a Wacom tablet would
be (after getting used to it) faster and/or more efficient for doing
precision selections and cutouts in Photoshop. I'm sure I will be
doing some sketching/drawing at some point, but my main purpose would
be for selections, such as with the pen or lasso tool.

I'm currently considering the 4x6 Intuos3, at about $199. I've watched
some vids and brief tutorials of the tablet. Looks great, and like it
could really be useful! Any input/advice much appreciated.

Michael
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Vieux 08/03/2008, 21h47   #2
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On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:51:13 -0500, Michael J <michael@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>I am considering buying a Wacom tablet. I'm not much of a sketch
>artist or drawer, but rather I was wondering if a Wacom tablet would
>be (after getting used to it) faster and/or more efficient for doing
>precision selections and cutouts in Photoshop. I'm sure I will be
>doing some sketching/drawing at some point, but my main purpose would
>be for selections, such as with the pen or lasso tool.
>
>I'm currently considering the 4x6 Intuos3, at about $199. I've watched
>some vids and brief tutorials of the tablet. Looks great, and like it
>could really be useful! Any input/advice much appreciated.
>
>Michael



If you watched videos and tutorials, you have seen more than anyone
here can tell you. No one of us regret the buy of graphic tablets.
I am using a 6x8 Genius.

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Vieux 08/03/2008, 22h51   #3
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Michael J <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I am considering buying a Wacom tablet. I'm not much of a sketch
> artist or drawer, but rather I was wondering if a Wacom tablet would
> be (after getting used to it) faster and/or more efficient for doing
> precision selections and cutouts in Photoshop. I'm sure I will be
> doing some sketching/drawing at some point, but my main purpose would
> be for selections, such as with the pen or lasso tool.
>
> I'm currently considering the 4x6 Intuos3, at about $199. I've watched
> some vids and brief tutorials of the tablet. Looks great, and like it
> could really be useful! Any input/advice much appreciated.
>
> Michael


Tablet is lot more then selection and cutout etc.. but for some very basic
tools like cloning, erasing, masking etc. when you get a hang of it then you
wouldn't wanna go without it.

*BUT* it will take quite sometime to get rid of the mouse (could be 2-3
months) then few months to master the toy. I have been using tablet for
nearly 2 decades or never use mouse for over a decade.
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Vieux 09/03/2008, 05h50   #4
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On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:51:06 -0600, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:

>
> Tablet is lot more then selection and cutout etc.. but for some very basic
>tools like cloning, erasing, masking etc. when you get a hang of it then you
>wouldn't wanna go without it.
>
> *BUT* it will take quite sometime to get rid of the mouse (could be 2-3
>months) then few months to master the toy. I have been using tablet for
>nearly 2 decades or never use mouse for over a decade.



I keep on using both, because while it is impossible to do a signature
with a mouse, it is clumsy to use a pen for clicking here and there
and why will I use a pen to crop with etc.

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Vieux 09/03/2008, 12h59   #5
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On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:50:28 +0200, Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:51:06 -0600, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Tablet is lot more then selection and cutout etc.. but for some very basic
>>tools like cloning, erasing, masking etc. when you get a hang of it then you
>>wouldn't wanna go without it.
>>
>> *BUT* it will take quite sometime to get rid of the mouse (could be 2-3
>>months) then few months to master the toy. I have been using tablet for
>>nearly 2 decades or never use mouse for over a decade.

>
>
>I keep on using both, because while it is impossible to do a signature
>with a mouse, it is clumsy to use a pen for clicking here and there
>and why will I use a pen to crop with etc.


Thanks for all the continuing input people. I recently got done
watching a video from Photoshop Cafe, "Photoshop Secrets - Wacom
Tablets and Photoshop," with Colin Smith and Wes Maggio (no plug
intended). After watching this vid I must say, I HAVE TO HAVE ONE!
Wow, I don't think I could have imagined how useful these things could
be and how far they have come with the technology. It's even inspiring
me to draw, (plus it should come in handy with Flash 8 as another
benefit). For my main purposes of selection, I don't know if the
tablet will be mega-more precise than a precision mouse/track ball,
but at least equally so and man will it ever be more efficient than a
mouse after you get used to it. Especially toggling back and forth
from direct select to quick mask mode. And the EASY opacity changes
for transparency with the brush pressure levels? One word: awesome. In
fact, after seeing what these things can do, I think I'm going to go
with the 6x8 Intuos3 rather than the 4x6. I've been contemplating
having a tablet since '02. I think it's time to get one.

Michael
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Vieux 10/03/2008, 09h28   #6
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Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:

> On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:51:06 -0600, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Tablet is lot more then selection and cutout etc.. but for some very basic
> >tools like cloning, erasing, masking etc. when you get a hang of it then you
> >wouldn't wanna go without it.
> >
> > *BUT* it will take quite sometime to get rid of the mouse (could be 2-3
> >months) then few months to master the toy. I have been using tablet for
> >nearly 2 decades or never use mouse for over a decade.

>
>
> I keep on using both, because while it is impossible to do a signature
> with a mouse, it is clumsy to use a pen for clicking here and there
> and why will I use a pen to crop with etc.


As I said PRACTICING! PRACTICING! and PRACTICING!
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Vieux 10/03/2008, 09h35   #7
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Michael J <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:50:28 +0200, Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:51:06 -0600, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Tablet is lot more then selection and cutout etc.. but for some very basic
> >>tools like cloning, erasing, masking etc. when you get a hang of it then you
> >>wouldn't wanna go without it.
> >>
> >> *BUT* it will take quite sometime to get rid of the mouse (could be 2-3
> >>months) then few months to master the toy. I have been using tablet for
> >>nearly 2 decades or never use mouse for over a decade.

> >
> >
> >I keep on using both, because while it is impossible to do a signature
> >with a mouse, it is clumsy to use a pen for clicking here and there
> >and why will I use a pen to crop with etc.

>
> Thanks for all the continuing input people. I recently got done
> watching a video from Photoshop Cafe, "Photoshop Secrets - Wacom
> Tablets and Photoshop," with Colin Smith and Wes Maggio (no plug
> intended). After watching this vid I must say, I HAVE TO HAVE ONE!
> Wow, I don't think I could have imagined how useful these things could
> be and how far they have come with the technology. It's even inspiring
> me to draw, (plus it should come in handy with Flash 8 as another
> benefit). For my main purposes of selection, I don't know if the
> tablet will be mega-more precise than a precision mouse/track ball,
> but at least equally so and man will it ever be more efficient than a
> mouse after you get used to it. Especially toggling back and forth
> from direct select to quick mask mode. And the EASY opacity changes
> for transparency with the brush pressure levels? One word: awesome. In
> fact, after seeing what these things can do, I think I'm going to go
> with the 6x8 Intuos3 rather than the 4x6. I've been contemplating
> having a tablet since '02. I think it's time to get one.
>
> Michael


It's no difference than a regular pen, but as long as you keep reaching
for the mouse then you will never be able to get the max out of the pen. As
I said, it's much more than selecting, or it's little easier but not much
difference comparing to mouse, but for other then it's day and night
difference.

As I mentioned, learn not to use mouse but PEN only on everything for
around a month or so, and hopefully you will no longer need mouse by then.
And if you still using mouse for other then PEN may not be a good idea as
you will never be able to master it.
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Vieux 10/03/2008, 13h26   #8
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I've also been looking at the Bamboo tablets , you can get one for £50/60 ,
but are these small ones (6x4?) a waste of time? or is there better
value-for-money out there.
Probably only use it in PS etc.


--
RobertJM

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> Michael J <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:50:28 +0200, Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:51:06 -0600, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Tablet is lot more then selection and cutout etc.. but for some very
>> >> basic
>> >>tools like cloning, erasing, masking etc. when you get a hang of it
>> >>then you
>> >>wouldn't wanna go without it.
>> >>
>> >> *BUT* it will take quite sometime to get rid of the mouse (could be
>> >> 2-3
>> >>months) then few months to master the toy. I have been using tablet
>> >>for
>> >>nearly 2 decades or never use mouse for over a decade.
>> >
>> >
>> >I keep on using both, because while it is impossible to do a signature
>> >with a mouse, it is clumsy to use a pen for clicking here and there
>> >and why will I use a pen to crop with etc.

>>
>> Thanks for all the continuing input people. I recently got done
>> watching a video from Photoshop Cafe, "Photoshop Secrets - Wacom
>> Tablets and Photoshop," with Colin Smith and Wes Maggio (no plug
>> intended). After watching this vid I must say, I HAVE TO HAVE ONE!
>> Wow, I don't think I could have imagined how useful these things could
>> be and how far they have come with the technology. It's even inspiring
>> me to draw, (plus it should come in handy with Flash 8 as another
>> benefit). For my main purposes of selection, I don't know if the
>> tablet will be mega-more precise than a precision mouse/track ball,
>> but at least equally so and man will it ever be more efficient than a
>> mouse after you get used to it. Especially toggling back and forth
>> from direct select to quick mask mode. And the EASY opacity changes
>> for transparency with the brush pressure levels? One word: awesome. In
>> fact, after seeing what these things can do, I think I'm going to go
>> with the 6x8 Intuos3 rather than the 4x6. I've been contemplating
>> having a tablet since '02. I think it's time to get one.
>>
>> Michael

>
> It's no difference than a regular pen, but as long as you keep reaching
> for the mouse then you will never be able to get the max out of the pen.
> As
> I said, it's much more than selecting, or it's little easier but not much
> difference comparing to mouse, but for other then it's day and night
> difference.
>
> As I mentioned, learn not to use mouse but PEN only on everything for
> around a month or so, and hopefully you will no longer need mouse by then.
> And if you still using mouse for other then PEN may not be a good idea as
> you will never be able to master it.



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Vieux 10/03/2008, 15h46   #9
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Using a 6x11 Intuits III with dual monitors. Took me awhile to get used to
but once you get it down, a mouse feels like the most awkward way to ever
work in photoshop.
One thing I did do though....I bought a Tarsus lap stand:
http://reviews.cnet.com/notebook-acc...-30464339.html
I found that angling the tablet made is much more comfortable than having it
lay flat on the desk.






"Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:51:06 -0600, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Tablet is lot more then selection and cutout etc.. but for some very
>> > basic
>> >tools like cloning, erasing, masking etc. when you get a hang of it then
>> >you
>> >wouldn't wanna go without it.
>> >
>> > *BUT* it will take quite sometime to get rid of the mouse (could be 2-3
>> >months) then few months to master the toy. I have been using tablet for
>> >nearly 2 decades or never use mouse for over a decade.

>>
>>
>> I keep on using both, because while it is impossible to do a signature
>> with a mouse, it is clumsy to use a pen for clicking here and there
>> and why will I use a pen to crop with etc.

>
> As I said PRACTICING! PRACTICING! and PRACTICING!



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Vieux 10/03/2008, 16h50   #10
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"Michael" <michaelwh@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Using a 6x11 Intuits III with dual monitors. Took me awhile to get used
> to
> but once you get it down, a mouse feels like the most awkward way to ever
> work in photoshop.
> One thing I did do though....I bought a Tarsus lap stand:
> http://reviews.cnet.com/notebook-acc...-30464339.html
> I found that angling the tablet made is much more comfortable than having
> it
> lay flat on the desk.
>


Good tip, I checked and the local Staples has a similar stand. I will check
it out.

I have the Intuos3 9x12 and would have done better buying a smaller one.


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Vieux 10/03/2008, 17h38   #11
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wow, can I not type or what? I meant Targus lapdesk stand. I bought one
from our soon-out-of business CompUSA here in Manhattan. The rubber feet
keep the tablet from sliding off. A 9x12 might be a bit big for it though.
(just figured out...spell check changed my original post)


Photoshop Retouching & Digital Artwork
www.PixelKat.com





"
>> One thing I did do though....I bought a Tarsus lap stand:
>> http://reviews.cnet.com/notebook-acc...-30464339.html
>> I found that angling the tablet made is much more comfortable than having
>> it
>> lay flat on the desk.







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Vieux 10/03/2008, 21h57   #12
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"Rudy Benner" <total@crap.com> wrote:

> "Michael" <michaelwh@verizon.net> wrote in message
> newsRbBj.4449$Mp4.3066@trndny02...
> > Using a 6x11 Intuits III with dual monitors. Took me awhile to get used
> > to
> > but once you get it down, a mouse feels like the most awkward way to ever
> > work in photoshop.
> > One thing I did do though....I bought a Tarsus lap stand:
> > http://reviews.cnet.com/notebook-acc...-30464339.html
> > I found that angling the tablet made is much more comfortable than having
> > it
> > lay flat on the desk.
> >

>
> Good tip, I checked and the local Staples has a similar stand. I will check
> it out.
>
> I have the Intuos3 9x12 and would have done better buying a smaller one.


I upgraded from 12x12" to 4x6' and much happier.

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Vieux 10/03/2008, 22h42   #13
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"Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> "Rudy Benner" <total@crap.com> wrote:
>
>> "Michael" <michaelwh@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> newsRbBj.4449$Mp4.3066@trndny02...
>> > Using a 6x11 Intuits III with dual monitors. Took me awhile to get
>> > used
>> > to
>> > but once you get it down, a mouse feels like the most awkward way to
>> > ever
>> > work in photoshop.
>> > One thing I did do though....I bought a Tarsus lap stand:
>> > http://reviews.cnet.com/notebook-acc...-30464339.html
>> > I found that angling the tablet made is much more comfortable than
>> > having
>> > it
>> > lay flat on the desk.
>> >

>>
>> Good tip, I checked and the local Staples has a similar stand. I will
>> check
>> it out.
>>
>> I have the Intuos3 9x12 and would have done better buying a smaller one.

>
> I upgraded from 12x12" to 4x6' and much happier.
>


The new drivers which I downloaded have a new feature called Quickpoint
which I do not recall from when I bought the tablet. Its like having 2
tablets, one small and one large. I downloaded a tutorial from PhotoshopCafe
as well.

Thanks to the OP for bringing this up.

r.


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Vieux 11/03/2008, 00h24   #14
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On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:57:22 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:

>"Rudy Benner" <total@crap.com> wrote:
>
>> "Michael" <michaelwh@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> newsRbBj.4449$Mp4.3066@trndny02...
>> > Using a 6x11 Intuits III with dual monitors. Took me awhile to get used
>> > to
>> > but once you get it down, a mouse feels like the most awkward way to ever
>> > work in photoshop.
>> > One thing I did do though....I bought a Tarsus lap stand:
>> > http://reviews.cnet.com/notebook-acc...-30464339.html
>> > I found that angling the tablet made is much more comfortable than having
>> > it
>> > lay flat on the desk.
>> >

>>
>> Good tip, I checked and the local Staples has a similar stand. I will check
>> it out.
>>
>> I have the Intuos3 9x12 and would have done better buying a smaller one.

>
> I upgraded from 12x12" to 4x6' and much happier.
>



Uncle Joel, you are a big bullshitter.
You said top posters go straight to your kill file.
How much of what you say is true?

Dave

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Vieux 11/03/2008, 03h13   #15
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On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:35:23 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:

>Michael J <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:50:28 +0200, Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:51:06 -0600, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Tablet is lot more then selection and cutout etc.. but for some very basic
>> >>tools like cloning, erasing, masking etc. when you get a hang of it then you
>> >>wouldn't wanna go without it.
>> >>
>> >> *BUT* it will take quite sometime to get rid of the mouse (could be 2-3
>> >>months) then few months to master the toy. I have been using tablet for
>> >>nearly 2 decades or never use mouse for over a decade.
>> >
>> >
>> >I keep on using both, because while it is impossible to do a signature
>> >with a mouse, it is clumsy to use a pen for clicking here and there
>> >and why will I use a pen to crop with etc.

>>
>> Thanks for all the continuing input people. I recently got done
>> watching a video from Photoshop Cafe, "Photoshop Secrets - Wacom
>> Tablets and Photoshop," with Colin Smith and Wes Maggio (no plug
>> intended). After watching this vid I must say, I HAVE TO HAVE ONE!
>> Wow, I don't think I could have imagined how useful these things could
>> be and how far they have come with the technology. It's even inspiring
>> me to draw, (plus it should come in handy with Flash 8 as another
>> benefit). For my main purposes of selection, I don't know if the
>> tablet will be mega-more precise than a precision mouse/track ball,
>> but at least equally so and man will it ever be more efficient than a
>> mouse after you get used to it. Especially toggling back and forth
>> from direct select to quick mask mode. And the EASY opacity changes
>> for transparency with the brush pressure levels? One word: awesome. In
>> fact, after seeing what these things can do, I think I'm going to go
>> with the 6x8 Intuos3 rather than the 4x6. I've been contemplating
>> having a tablet since '02. I think it's time to get one.
>>
>> Michael

>
> It's no difference than a regular pen, but as long as you keep reaching
>for the mouse then you will never be able to get the max out of the pen. As
>I said, it's much more than selecting, or it's little easier but not much
>difference comparing to mouse, but for other then it's day and night
>difference.
>
> As I mentioned, learn not to use mouse but PEN only on everything for
>around a month or so, and hopefully you will no longer need mouse by then.
>And if you still using mouse for other then PEN may not be a good idea as
>you will never be able to master it.


Hey Joel thanks for the input. When I get my tablet in a couple days
(ordered through Amazon) I plan on unplugging my mouse, putting it up
in the closet and not looking back. If I might say, I think I'll take
to the tablet well. I used to have a precision thumb-track-ball that I
used for design in Lightwave 3D. All my friends HATED that thing and
could never get used to it. But I loved it from the start and could
pretty much zip to and stop on a pixel on the display using it. I
think the tablet will be much the same way. Before even getting it, it
already seems more intuitive to my brain than the mouse.
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Vieux 11/03/2008, 03h20   #16
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On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:26:09 -0000, "RobertJM"
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>I've also been looking at the Bamboo tablets , you can get one for £50/60 ,
>but are these small ones (6x4?) a waste of time? or is there better
>value-for-money out there.
>Probably only use it in PS etc.


Hey Robert, I've been doing a lot of video watching on the Wacom
tablets. I don't have mine yet. I too was first going to go with the
4x6 Intuos3, but through everything I've seen, it looks like the 6x8
(Intuos3) would be the better choice. It looks like there's more
"control," and better "tablet-to-screen" cognition. Of course, that is
only my opinion based on what I've seen.
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Vieux 11/03/2008, 05h10   #17
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> > It's no difference than a regular pen, but as long as you keep reaching
> >for the mouse then you will never be able to get the max out of the pen. As
> >I said, it's much more than selecting, or it's little easier but not much
> >difference comparing to mouse, but for other then it's day and night
> >difference.
> >
> > As I mentioned, learn not to use mouse but PEN only on everything for
> >around a month or so, and hopefully you will no longer need mouse by then.
> >And if you still using mouse for other then PEN may not be a good idea as
> >you will never be able to master it.

>
> Hey Joel thanks for the input. When I get my tablet in a couple days
> (ordered through Amazon) I plan on unplugging my mouse, putting it up
> in the closet and not looking back. If I might say, I think I'll take
> to the tablet well. I used to have a precision thumb-track-ball that I
> used for design in Lightwave 3D. All my friends HATED that thing and
> could never get used to it. But I loved it from the start and could
> pretty much zip to and stop on a pixel on the display using it. I
> think the tablet will be much the same way. Before even getting it, it
> already seems more intuitive to my brain than the mouse.


*If* you really try then you should be able to get a hang of it within 1-2
weeks or so, then around 1 month you won't need mouse any more. Then start
mastering the pen.

Just like when we used mouse the first time we can't be able to control
the crazy pointer, and it took few weeks to get used to it. Same with PEN
it's no different than mouse, we just control the CURSOR using PEN instead
of MOUSE.

*If* you can't get rid of the mouse then 10-20 years later you still can't
master the pen. Or I was using PEN + MOUSE for around 6-7+ years and just
can't be able to master the pen, until I decided not to touch the mouse and
I haven't used mouse for over a decade now.
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Vieux 11/03/2008, 05h23   #18
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"Rudy Benner" <total@crap.com> wrote:

> "Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
> news:l48bt3len83g2ngci3vreq5fl196huqga2@4ax.com...
> > "Rudy Benner" <total@crap.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Michael" <michaelwh@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> newsRbBj.4449$Mp4.3066@trndny02...
> >> > Using a 6x11 Intuits III with dual monitors. Took me awhile to get
> >> > used
> >> > to
> >> > but once you get it down, a mouse feels like the most awkward way to
> >> > ever
> >> > work in photoshop.
> >> > One thing I did do though....I bought a Tarsus lap stand:
> >> > http://reviews.cnet.com/notebook-acc...-30464339.html
> >> > I found that angling the tablet made is much more comfortable than
> >> > having
> >> > it
> >> > lay flat on the desk.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Good tip, I checked and the local Staples has a similar stand. I will
> >> check
> >> it out.
> >>
> >> I have the Intuos3 9x12 and would have done better buying a smaller one.

> >
> > I upgraded from 12x12" to 4x6' and much happier.
> >

>
> The new drivers which I downloaded have a new feature called Quickpoint
> which I do not recall from when I bought the tablet. Its like having 2
> tablets, one small and one large. I downloaded a tutorial from PhotoshopCafe
> as well.
>
> Thanks to the OP for bringing this up.
>
> r.


About ALL tablets (even way way back to around 80's when I first started
using tablet) have option to create working areas. Or you can divide the
big tablet into multiple smaller areas.
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Vieux 11/03/2008, 05h25   #19
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Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:57:22 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>
> >"Rudy Benner" <total@crap.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Michael" <michaelwh@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> newsRbBj.4449$Mp4.3066@trndny02...
> >> > Using a 6x11 Intuits III with dual monitors. Took me awhile to get used
> >> > to
> >> > but once you get it down, a mouse feels like the most awkward way to ever
> >> > work in photoshop.
> >> > One thing I did do though....I bought a Tarsus lap stand:
> >> > http://reviews.cnet.com/notebook-acc...-30464339.html
> >> > I found that angling the tablet made is much more comfortable than having
> >> > it
> >> > lay flat on the desk.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Good tip, I checked and the local Staples has a similar stand. I will check
> >> it out.
> >>
> >> I have the Intuos3 9x12 and would have done better buying a smaller one.

> >
> > I upgraded from 12x12" to 4x6' and much happier.
> >

>
>
> Uncle Joel, you are a big bullshitter.
> You said top posters go straight to your kill file.
> How much of what you say is true?
>
> Dave


I like to shit into your sensitive mouth. And yes, topper will be farted
out <bg>
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Vieux 11/03/2008, 17h12   #20
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Here's an interesting question.

When they're not making PS training videos, what do the "experts" use?

For example, when Deke Mcclelland does a PS DVD series, he always uses
a mouse. Presumably because 99.9% of his viewers are using a mouse.
But what does he (and other experts) use in his personal time? I
wonder.
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Vieux 11/03/2008, 17h24   #21
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:12:26 -0400, Michael J <michael@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Here's an interesting question.
>
>When they're not making PS training videos, what do the "experts" use?
>
>For example, when Deke Mcclelland does a PS DVD series, he always uses
>a mouse. Presumably because 99.9% of his viewers are using a mouse.
>But what does he (and other experts) use in his personal time? I
>wonder.



Why on earth would you call this 'an interesting question'?
It is general knowledge that we use graphic tablets.
Not necessarily 'Wacom' but graphic tablets, yes of course.

Dave

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Vieux 11/03/2008, 18h58   #22
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:24:28 +0200, Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:

>Why on earth would you call this 'an interesting question'?
>It is general knowledge that we use graphic tablets.
>Not necessarily 'Wacom' but graphic tablets, yes of course.


I would wonder why even use a tablet at all ? IE: A scanner/printer/copier AIO
is much more useful, and a colored pencil is much more accurate than any
mechanical tool.

Basically just day dreaming about some past thing's I've drawn, and cringed at
the idea of using a mouse or a machine to add all those odor, heat squigglies.
Crows feet on the eyes, etc.. stuff that I'd have to be moving from zoom out to
zoom in etc.. constantly.

Where, just zap it in with pencil, and scan when finished would be so much
simpler and better looking.
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Vieux 11/03/2008, 21h23   #23
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Michael J <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Here's an interesting question.


I don't find any interesting at all <bg>

> When they're not making PS training videos, what do the "experts" use?
>
> For example, when Deke Mcclelland does a PS DVD series, he always uses
> a mouse. Presumably because 99.9% of his viewers are using a mouse.
> But what does he (and other experts) use in his personal time? I
> wonder.


I guess Deke McClelland may be an experted on PS DVD whatever *but* not
yet an experted on pen?
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Vieux 11/03/2008, 21h43   #24
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:24:28 +0200, Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:12:26 -0400, Michael J <michael@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Here's an interesting question.
>>
>>When they're not making PS training videos, what do the "experts" use?
>>
>>For example, when Deke Mcclelland does a PS DVD series, he always uses
>>a mouse. Presumably because 99.9% of his viewers are using a mouse.
>>But what does he (and other experts) use in his personal time? I
>>wonder.

>
>
>Why on earth would you call this 'an interesting question'?
>It is general knowledge that we use graphic tablets.
>Not necessarily 'Wacom' but graphic tablets, yes of course.
>
>Dave


Ok, I guess I didn't mean "interesting" as in an earth-shattering
epiphany or anything. Let me rephrase. I am CURIOUS as to what the
"experts" use on a day to day basis.
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Vieux 12/03/2008, 08h08   #25
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, Michael J wrote:



>>It is general knowledge that we use graphic tablets.
>>Not necessarily 'Wacom' but graphic tablets, yes of course.
>>
>>Dave

>


>Let me rephrase. I am CURIOUS as to what the
>"experts" use on a day to day basis.


We use graphic tablets when working with precision work and
mouse for basic work, Michael. Precision work (or detailed work) like
drawings and basic work like when doing normal crop work or working on
the layer buttons.

Dave

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