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Vieux 12/03/2008, 17h40   #26
Joel
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Michael J <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:24:28 +0200, Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:12:26 -0400, Michael J <michael@yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Here's an interesting question.
> >>
> >>When they're not making PS training videos, what do the "experts" use?
> >>
> >>For example, when Deke Mcclelland does a PS DVD series, he always uses
> >>a mouse. Presumably because 99.9% of his viewers are using a mouse.
> >>But what does he (and other experts) use in his personal time? I
> >>wonder.

> >
> >
> >Why on earth would you call this 'an interesting question'?
> >It is general knowledge that we use graphic tablets.
> >Not necessarily 'Wacom' but graphic tablets, yes of course.
> >
> >Dave

>
> Ok, I guess I didn't mean "interesting" as in an earth-shattering
> epiphany or anything. Let me rephrase. I am CURIOUS as to what the
> "experts" use on a day to day basis.


Me? I am a very normal guy so I usually do the normal thinking to keep me
up to date. So my wild guess is both experts and normal people use whatever
they know best or whatever tool/technique they already mastered.

Example right right I don't know exactly what you have mastered (English
may be or at least comparing to my poor English), but I bet you that when
your tablet arrive (you will be a owner and user by then) you still find
mouse is much easier. And just like many tablet owners who haven't tried
hard enough and 10-20 years later they still can't master the PEn even they
do real well with the regular ink pen or pencil which they never compare to
mouse.

Or I don't know how much you know Photoshop so I assume you are an
experted on Photoshop, and someone sees you switching back and forth between
mouse and pen then they may wonder the samething when you see Deke switching
back and forth between mouse and pen.
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Vieux 13/03/2008, 01h09   #27
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:08:04 +0200, Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:

>, Michael J wrote:
>
>
>
>>>It is general knowledge that we use graphic tablets.
>>>Not necessarily 'Wacom' but graphic tablets, yes of course.
>>>
>>>Dave

>>

>
>>Let me rephrase. I am CURIOUS as to what the
>>"experts" use on a day to day basis.

>
>We use graphic tablets when working with precision work and
>mouse for basic work, Michael. Precision work (or detailed work) like
>drawings and basic work like when doing normal crop work or working on
>the layer buttons.
>
>Dave


Understood. I just received my Intuos3 today. As a matter of fact I'm
using it now, and I must say, I love it already. There was so much
talk about putting the mouse away that I didn't quite understand if
"full time" PS users ever went back to the mouse after using the
tablet. But what you've said makes sense.

However I'm going to do nothing but use the tablet for the next week,
in PS and general navigation to get completely comfortable and
efficient in using it.

Once again, I can't say enough how much I love this tablet.
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Vieux 13/03/2008, 01h29   #28
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"Michael J" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:08:04 +0200, Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:
>
>>, Michael J wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>It is general knowledge that we use graphic tablets.
>>>>Not necessarily 'Wacom' but graphic tablets, yes of course.
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>

>>
>>>Let me rephrase. I am CURIOUS as to what the
>>>"experts" use on a day to day basis.

>>
>>We use graphic tablets when working with precision work and
>>mouse for basic work, Michael. Precision work (or detailed work) like
>>drawings and basic work like when doing normal crop work or working on
>>the layer buttons.
>>
>>Dave

>
> Understood. I just received my Intuos3 today. As a matter of fact I'm
> using it now, and I must say, I love it already. There was so much
> talk about putting the mouse away that I didn't quite understand if
> "full time" PS users ever went back to the mouse after using the
> tablet. But what you've said makes sense.
>
> However I'm going to do nothing but use the tablet for the next week,
> in PS and general navigation to get completely comfortable and
> efficient in using it.
>
> Once again, I can't say enough how much I love this tablet.


What size did you get?


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Vieux 13/03/2008, 02h18   #29
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:40:49 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:

>Michael J <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:24:28 +0200, Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:12:26 -0400, Michael J <michael@yahoo.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>Here's an interesting question.
>> >>
>> >>When they're not making PS training videos, what do the "experts" use?
>> >>
>> >>For example, when Deke Mcclelland does a PS DVD series, he always uses
>> >>a mouse. Presumably because 99.9% of his viewers are using a mouse.
>> >>But what does he (and other experts) use in his personal time? I
>> >>wonder.
>> >
>> >
>> >Why on earth would you call this 'an interesting question'?
>> >It is general knowledge that we use graphic tablets.
>> >Not necessarily 'Wacom' but graphic tablets, yes of course.
>> >
>> >Dave

>>
>> Ok, I guess I didn't mean "interesting" as in an earth-shattering
>> epiphany or anything. Let me rephrase. I am CURIOUS as to what the
>> "experts" use on a day to day basis.

>
> Me? I am a very normal guy so I usually do the normal thinking to keep me
>up to date. So my wild guess is both experts and normal people use whatever
>they know best or whatever tool/technique they already mastered.
>
> Example right right I don't know exactly what you have mastered (English
>may be or at least comparing to my poor English), but I bet you that when
>your tablet arrive (you will be a owner and user by then) you still find
>mouse is much easier. And just like many tablet owners who haven't tried
>hard enough and 10-20 years later they still can't master the PEn even they
>do real well with the regular ink pen or pencil which they never compare to
>mouse.
>
> Or I don't know how much you know Photoshop so I assume you are an
>experted on Photoshop, and someone sees you switching back and forth between
>mouse and pen then they may wonder the samething when you see Deke switching
>back and forth between mouse and pen.


Hey Joel, I just received my tablet today. As far as PS goes, I had
been using it on and off for about the past 8 years. Initial learning
was trial an error. Then I took a basic class, bought the best DVD
tutorials/classes I could find which increased my knowledge
tremendously. I consider myself an intermediate PS user.

I'm using the pen in PS now. Surprisingly, I'm not frustrated with it.
In fact, the more I use it the more I like it. As a test, I already
did a "cutout" of a person from a background using the tablet and the
pen tool in PS. I did almost as well as I would have using the mouse.
But with each new thing I do using the tablet and pen in PS, it gets
better and easier. Within a week, perhaps several days, I believe I
will be doing much BETTER than I ever could with the mouse. It is just
so much easier to be precise.

And using the pen pressure level to control the opacity of a layer
mask in combination with blending modes to create a collage, I have a
level of control and creativity that could NEVER be matched by the
mouse! I am very happy with this new tablet.

As Dave said above, I think once a person has gone through what's
necessary to master the pen, it's then ok to use the mouse for the
simple "5 minute" jobs. And for precision, use the pen. Who would want
to use anything else? I'm still considering just how I want to set up
my pen and express buttons, but other than that this thing is
fantastic.
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Vieux 13/03/2008, 02h31   #30
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:29:43 -0400, "Rudy Benner" <total@crap.com>
wrote:

>
>"Michael J" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:d5ogt39sstj7bmj3uj8rmpbs7fdhrd8j7b@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:08:04 +0200, Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:
>>
>>>, Michael J wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>It is general knowledge that we use graphic tablets.
>>>>>Not necessarily 'Wacom' but graphic tablets, yes of course.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>
>>>>Let me rephrase. I am CURIOUS as to what the
>>>>"experts" use on a day to day basis.
>>>
>>>We use graphic tablets when working with precision work and
>>>mouse for basic work, Michael. Precision work (or detailed work) like
>>>drawings and basic work like when doing normal crop work or working on
>>>the layer buttons.
>>>
>>>Dave

>>
>> Understood. I just received my Intuos3 today. As a matter of fact I'm
>> using it now, and I must say, I love it already. There was so much
>> talk about putting the mouse away that I didn't quite understand if
>> "full time" PS users ever went back to the mouse after using the
>> tablet. But what you've said makes sense.
>>
>> However I'm going to do nothing but use the tablet for the next week,
>> in PS and general navigation to get completely comfortable and
>> efficient in using it.
>>
>> Once again, I can't say enough how much I love this tablet.

>
>What size did you get?
>


Hey Rudy, I got the 6x8 Intuos3. I think I should qualify this though.
Initially I was going to go with the 4x6, but went with the lager
version instead and am glad I did, here's why:

When I was using my track ball, I had the speed of the pointer set to
it's highest level. I like to be able to move the cursor quickly
without having to make a ton of turns on the ball. However, I could
still be accurate even though the pointer moved quite fast. Call it a
"gift," I don't know.

That being said, I currently have my 6x8 tablet set up so that the
upper left quadrant of the tablet (about a 3x4 area) is mapped to the
entire display. I find I can move the cursor anywhere on the display
without having to slide my hand all over the tablet this way (at the
expense of a bit of accuracy of course). However, If I need to be
extremely accurate, I can quickly remap the display to the entire pad
again.

Just something some people might not realize you can do with these
things.
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Vieux 13/03/2008, 02h54   #31
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"Michael J" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:29:43 -0400, "Rudy Benner" <total@crap.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Michael J" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:d5ogt39sstj7bmj3uj8rmpbs7fdhrd8j7b@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:08:04 +0200, Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:
>>>
>>>>, Michael J wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>It is general knowledge that we use graphic tablets.
>>>>>>Not necessarily 'Wacom' but graphic tablets, yes of course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Let me rephrase. I am CURIOUS as to what the
>>>>>"experts" use on a day to day basis.
>>>>
>>>>We use graphic tablets when working with precision work and
>>>>mouse for basic work, Michael. Precision work (or detailed work) like
>>>>drawings and basic work like when doing normal crop work or working on
>>>>the layer buttons.
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>> Understood. I just received my Intuos3 today. As a matter of fact I'm
>>> using it now, and I must say, I love it already. There was so much
>>> talk about putting the mouse away that I didn't quite understand if
>>> "full time" PS users ever went back to the mouse after using the
>>> tablet. But what you've said makes sense.
>>>
>>> However I'm going to do nothing but use the tablet for the next week,
>>> in PS and general navigation to get completely comfortable and
>>> efficient in using it.
>>>
>>> Once again, I can't say enough how much I love this tablet.

>>
>>What size did you get?
>>

>
> Hey Rudy, I got the 6x8 Intuos3. I think I should qualify this though.
> Initially I was going to go with the 4x6, but went with the lager
> version instead and am glad I did, here's why:
>
> When I was using my track ball, I had the speed of the pointer set to
> it's highest level. I like to be able to move the cursor quickly
> without having to make a ton of turns on the ball. However, I could
> still be accurate even though the pointer moved quite fast. Call it a
> "gift," I don't know.
>
> That being said, I currently have my 6x8 tablet set up so that the
> upper left quadrant of the tablet (about a 3x4 area) is mapped to the
> entire display. I find I can move the cursor anywhere on the display
> without having to slide my hand all over the tablet this way (at the
> expense of a bit of accuracy of course). However, If I need to be
> extremely accurate, I can quickly remap the display to the entire pad
> again.
>
> Just something some people might not realize you can do with these
> things.


I have a trackball for each computer.


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Vieux 13/03/2008, 09h43   #32
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Michael J <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:08:04 +0200, Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:
>
> >, Michael J wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>>It is general knowledge that we use graphic tablets.
> >>>Not necessarily 'Wacom' but graphic tablets, yes of course.
> >>>
> >>>Dave
> >>

> >
> >>Let me rephrase. I am CURIOUS as to what the
> >>"experts" use on a day to day basis.

> >
> >We use graphic tablets when working with precision work and
> >mouse for basic work, Michael. Precision work (or detailed work) like
> >drawings and basic work like when doing normal crop work or working on
> >the layer buttons.
> >
> >Dave

>
> Understood. I just received my Intuos3 today. As a matter of fact I'm
> using it now, and I must say, I love it already. There was so much
> talk about putting the mouse away that I didn't quite understand if
> "full time" PS users ever went back to the mouse after using the
> tablet. But what you've said makes sense.
>
> However I'm going to do nothing but use the tablet for the next week,
> in PS and general navigation to get completely comfortable and
> efficient in using it.
>
> Once again, I can't say enough how much I love this tablet.


I am glad you decide to give the PEN a real work out, and I hope you can
be able to end the mouse within 2-3 weeks. It was my very own experience
and I try to share with others hoping they can be able to master the pen to
enjoy it as suppose to. Or it took me many years to decide to get rid of
the mouse, and it took me few weeks to do it.
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Vieux 13/03/2008, 09h47   #33
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Michael J <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:

<snip>
> >What size did you get?
> >

>
> Hey Rudy, I got the 6x8 Intuos3. I think I should qualify this though.
> Initially I was going to go with the 4x6, but went with the lager
> version instead and am glad I did, here's why:
>
> When I was using my track ball, I had the speed of the pointer set to
> it's highest level. I like to be able to move the cursor quickly
> without having to make a ton of turns on the ball. However, I could
> still be accurate even though the pointer moved quite fast. Call it a
> "gift," I don't know.
>
> That being said, I currently have my 6x8 tablet set up so that the
> upper left quadrant of the tablet (about a 3x4 area) is mapped to the
> entire display. I find I can move the cursor anywhere on the display
> without having to slide my hand all over the tablet this way (at the
> expense of a bit of accuracy of course). However, If I need to be
> extremely accurate, I can quickly remap the display to the entire pad
> again.
>
> Just something some people might not realize you can do with these
> things.


Well, if you want speed then the smaller the faster speed, because no
matter if the size if 4x6 inches or 4x6 miles the active area will match the
monitor size no matter if it's 20" or 20'
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Vieux 13/03/2008, 09h58   #34
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Michael J <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:

<snip>
> >> Ok, I guess I didn't mean "interesting" as in an earth-shattering
> >> epiphany or anything. Let me rephrase. I am CURIOUS as to what the
> >> "experts" use on a day to day basis.

> >
> > Me? I am a very normal guy so I usually do the normal thinking to keep me
> >up to date. So my wild guess is both experts and normal people use whatever
> >they know best or whatever tool/technique they already mastered.
> >
> > Example right right I don't know exactly what you have mastered (English
> >may be or at least comparing to my poor English), but I bet you that when
> >your tablet arrive (you will be a owner and user by then) you still find
> >mouse is much easier. And just like many tablet owners who haven't tried
> >hard enough and 10-20 years later they still can't master the PEn even they
> >do real well with the regular ink pen or pencil which they never compare to
> >mouse.
> >
> > Or I don't know how much you know Photoshop so I assume you are an
> >experted on Photoshop, and someone sees you switching back and forth between
> >mouse and pen then they may wonder the samething when you see Deke switching
> >back and forth between mouse and pen.

>
> Hey Joel, I just received my tablet today. As far as PS goes, I had
> been using it on and off for about the past 8 years. Initial learning
> was trial an error. Then I took a basic class, bought the best DVD
> tutorials/classes I could find which increased my knowledge
> tremendously. I consider myself an intermediate PS user.
>
> I'm using the pen in PS now. Surprisingly, I'm not frustrated with it.
> In fact, the more I use it the more I like it. As a test, I already
> did a "cutout" of a person from a background using the tablet and the
> pen tool in PS. I did almost as well as I would have using the mouse.
> But with each new thing I do using the tablet and pen in PS, it gets
> better and easier. Within a week, perhaps several days, I believe I
> will be doing much BETTER than I ever could with the mouse. It is just
> so much easier to be precise.
>
> And using the pen pressure level to control the opacity of a layer
> mask in combination with blending modes to create a collage, I have a
> level of control and creativity that could NEVER be matched by the
> mouse! I am very happy with this new tablet.
>
> As Dave said above, I think once a person has gone through what's
> necessary to master the pen, it's then ok to use the mouse for the
> simple "5 minute" jobs. And for precision, use the pen. Who would want
> to use anything else? I'm still considering just how I want to set up
> my pen and express buttons, but other than that this thing is
> fantastic.


As I have mentioned that using pen for selecting is almost like using
mouse, or not much advantage here. But if you do lot of retouching or using
tool like Masking (not creating a Masked file but using Mask tool), Erasing,
Cloning etc. then you will love the pen even more.

Example Erasing is usually one of several tools I usually use together
with Masking, and I usually set the Opacity = very low, so instead of
applying the erase 2-3 with pen I can go over 10-15 times. And with pen you
can do any angle without having to keep the pen to any specific position
(like mouse).
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Vieux 19/03/2008, 01h53   #35
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I got an A4 size tablet in December from Aldi, the brand name is Medion and
it was only about £29.95. It's brilliant.

s.

"RobertJM" <robert@rockNObottomSPAM.plus.com> wrote in message
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> I've also been looking at the Bamboo tablets , you can get one for £50/60
> , but are these small ones (6x4?) a waste of time? or is there better
> value-for-money out there.
> Probably only use it in PS etc.
>
>
> --
> RobertJM
>
> "Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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>> Michael J <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:50:28 +0200, Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:51:06 -0600, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Tablet is lot more then selection and cutout etc.. but for some very
>>> >> basic
>>> >>tools like cloning, erasing, masking etc. when you get a hang of it
>>> >>then you
>>> >>wouldn't wanna go without it.
>>> >>
>>> >> *BUT* it will take quite sometime to get rid of the mouse (could be
>>> >> 2-3
>>> >>months) then few months to master the toy. I have been using tablet
>>> >>for
>>> >>nearly 2 decades or never use mouse for over a decade.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >I keep on using both, because while it is impossible to do a signature
>>> >with a mouse, it is clumsy to use a pen for clicking here and there
>>> >and why will I use a pen to crop with etc.
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the continuing input people. I recently got done
>>> watching a video from Photoshop Cafe, "Photoshop Secrets - Wacom
>>> Tablets and Photoshop," with Colin Smith and Wes Maggio (no plug
>>> intended). After watching this vid I must say, I HAVE TO HAVE ONE!
>>> Wow, I don't think I could have imagined how useful these things could
>>> be and how far they have come with the technology. It's even inspiring
>>> me to draw, (plus it should come in handy with Flash 8 as another
>>> benefit). For my main purposes of selection, I don't know if the
>>> tablet will be mega-more precise than a precision mouse/track ball,
>>> but at least equally so and man will it ever be more efficient than a
>>> mouse after you get used to it. Especially toggling back and forth
>>> from direct select to quick mask mode. And the EASY opacity changes
>>> for transparency with the brush pressure levels? One word: awesome. In
>>> fact, after seeing what these things can do, I think I'm going to go
>>> with the 6x8 Intuos3 rather than the 4x6. I've been contemplating
>>> having a tablet since '02. I think it's time to get one.
>>>
>>> Michael

>>
>> It's no difference than a regular pen, but as long as you keep reaching
>> for the mouse then you will never be able to get the max out of the pen.
>> As
>> I said, it's much more than selecting, or it's little easier but not much
>> difference comparing to mouse, but for other then it's day and night
>> difference.
>>
>> As I mentioned, learn not to use mouse but PEN only on everything for
>> around a month or so, and hopefully you will no longer need mouse by
>> then.
>> And if you still using mouse for other then PEN may not be a good idea as
>> you will never be able to master it.

>
>



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Vieux 19/03/2008, 10h14   #36
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:53:14 -0000, "someone" <someone@flibbernet.com>
wrote:

>I got an A4 size tablet in December from Aldi, the brand name is Medion and
>it was only about £29.95. It's brilliant.
>
>s.
>
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>> I've also been looking at the Bamboo tablets , you can get one for £50/60
>> , but are these small ones (6x4?) a waste of time? or is there better
>> value-for-money out there.
>> Probably only use it in PS etc.
>>
>>


This is what I keep on saying.
I am using a Genius tablet (6x8) and I do with it what ever can be
done with Wacom. The price is very reasonable, much more than the
Wacom products. There is more brands than only one.

Dave

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Vieux 23/03/2008, 19h18   #37
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"someone" <someone@flibbernet.com> wrote in message
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>I got an A4 size tablet in December from Aldi, the brand name is Medion and
>it was only about £29.95. It's brilliant.
>
> s.
>
> "RobertJM" <robert@rockNObottomSPAM.plus.com> wrote in message
> news:13taa701vhpdi49@corp.supernews.com...
>> I've also been looking at the Bamboo tablets , you can get one for £50/60
>> , but are these small ones (6x4?) a waste of time? or is there better
>> value-for-money out there.
>> Probably only use it in PS etc.
>>
>>
>> --
>> RobertJM
>>
>> "Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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>>> Michael J <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:50:28 +0200, Dave <d@d.durbs> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:51:06 -0600, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Tablet is lot more then selection and cutout etc.. but for some very
>>>> >> basic
>>>> >>tools like cloning, erasing, masking etc. when you get a hang of it
>>>> >>then you
>>>> >>wouldn't wanna go without it.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *BUT* it will take quite sometime to get rid of the mouse (could be
>>>> >> 2-3
>>>> >>months) then few months to master the toy. I have been using tablet
>>>> >>for
>>>> >>nearly 2 decades or never use mouse for over a decade.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >I keep on using both, because while it is impossible to do a signature
>>>> >with a mouse, it is clumsy to use a pen for clicking here and there
>>>> >and why will I use a pen to crop with etc.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for all the continuing input people. I recently got done
>>>> watching a video from Photoshop Cafe, "Photoshop Secrets - Wacom
>>>> Tablets and Photoshop," with Colin Smith and Wes Maggio (no plug
>>>> intended). After watching this vid I must say, I HAVE TO HAVE ONE!
>>>> Wow, I don't think I could have imagined how useful these things could
>>>> be and how far they have come with the technology. It's even inspiring
>>>> me to draw, (plus it should come in handy with Flash 8 as another
>>>> benefit). For my main purposes of selection, I don't know if the
>>>> tablet will be mega-more precise than a precision mouse/track ball,
>>>> but at least equally so and man will it ever be more efficient than a
>>>> mouse after you get used to it. Especially toggling back and forth
>>>> from direct select to quick mask mode. And the EASY opacity changes
>>>> for transparency with the brush pressure levels? One word: awesome. In
>>>> fact, after seeing what these things can do, I think I'm going to go
>>>> with the 6x8 Intuos3 rather than the 4x6. I've been contemplating
>>>> having a tablet since '02. I think it's time to get one.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>
>>> It's no difference than a regular pen, but as long as you keep reaching
>>> for the mouse then you will never be able to get the max out of the pen.
>>> As
>>> I said, it's much more than selecting, or it's little easier but not
>>> much
>>> difference comparing to mouse, but for other then it's day and night
>>> difference.
>>>
>>> As I mentioned, learn not to use mouse but PEN only on everything for
>>> around a month or so, and hopefully you will no longer need mouse by
>>> then.
>>> And if you still using mouse for other then PEN may not be a good idea
>>> as
>>> you will never be able to master it.

>>
>>

>
>

I'ver got both an A4, the one from Aldi, and a Wacom. A6 (6 x4) Both have
their uses. The larger tablet is great for drawing or painting; the larger
size makes it easy to do brush strokes like real drawing/painting. However
for Photoshop use I find it too large. The small 6 x 4 tablet is better for
this. As it is only the size of a mouse mat it sits where I would normally
use a mouse. However, the small size is not suitable for drawing/painting
work.

The wacom has a far superior pen and is a dream to use; the Aldi one has a
pen which is heavy and relatively clumsy. Hope this s.

PDM.


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"Paul D Moore" <pdmoore@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

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> I'ver got both an A4, the one from Aldi, and a Wacom. A6 (6 x4) Both have
> their uses. The larger tablet is great for drawing or painting; the larger
> size makes it easy to do brush strokes like real drawing/painting. However
> for Photoshop use I find it too large. The small 6 x 4 tablet is better for
> this. As it is only the size of a mouse mat it sits where I would normally
> use a mouse. However, the small size is not suitable for drawing/painting
> work.
>
> The wacom has a far superior pen and is a dream to use; the Aldi one has a
> pen which is heavy and relatively clumsy. Hope this s.
>
> PDM.


I don't do painting often and the 4x6 wrks just fine for my painting need.
And I can agree with you about the size difference, and larger size is
better or required for CAD work, or tracing.

Or if you like to move your whole hand instead of just the wrist then
larger size may be what you need, but just for drawing/painting then just
about any size would do.
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"Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> "Paul D Moore" <pdmoore@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>> I'ver got both an A4, the one from Aldi, and a Wacom. A6 (6 x4) Both have
>> their uses. The larger tablet is great for drawing or painting; the
>> larger
>> size makes it easy to do brush strokes like real drawing/painting.
>> However
>> for Photoshop use I find it too large. The small 6 x 4 tablet is better
>> for
>> this. As it is only the size of a mouse mat it sits where I would
>> normally
>> use a mouse. However, the small size is not suitable for drawing/painting
>> work.
>>
>> The wacom has a far superior pen and is a dream to use; the Aldi one has
>> a
>> pen which is heavy and relatively clumsy. Hope this s.
>>
>> PDM.

>
> I don't do painting often and the 4x6 wrks just fine for my painting need.
> And I can agree with you about the size difference, and larger size is
> better or required for CAD work, or tracing.
>
> Or if you like to move your whole hand instead of just the wrist then
> larger size may be what you need, but just for drawing/painting then just
> about any size would do.


Adding to this: the trouble with large tablets is they are tiring to use. I
use the small one for most of my work too. It is the one I would buy if I
could only afford one.

PDM


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> "Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> > "Paul D Moore" <pdmoore@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >> I'ver got both an A4, the one from Aldi, and a Wacom. A6 (6 x4) Both have
> >> their uses. The larger tablet is great for drawing or painting; the
> >> larger
> >> size makes it easy to do brush strokes like real drawing/painting.
> >> However
> >> for Photoshop use I find it too large. The small 6 x 4 tablet is better
> >> for
> >> this. As it is only the size of a mouse mat it sits where I would
> >> normally
> >> use a mouse. However, the small size is not suitable for drawing/painting
> >> work.
> >>
> >> The wacom has a far superior pen and is a dream to use; the Aldi one has
> >> a
> >> pen which is heavy and relatively clumsy. Hope this s.
> >>
> >> PDM.

> >
> > I don't do painting often and the 4x6 wrks just fine for my painting need.
> > And I can agree with you about the size difference, and larger size is
> > better or required for CAD work, or tracing.
> >
> > Or if you like to move your whole hand instead of just the wrist then
> > larger size may be what you need, but just for drawing/painting then just
> > about any size would do.

>
> Adding to this: the trouble with large tablets is they are tiring to use. I
> use the small one for most of my work too. It is the one I would buy if I
> could only afford one.
>
> PDM


I started with the large ones before 2-3 12x12", 1 9x12", and 2 4x5", and
I like the smallest the most. Quality, I like the older ones as they were
much better in quality than the newer Wacom which is good tablet but poor
quality.
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