I guess it is rather symetric isn't it?
"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:48:41 -0500, "dvus" <dven1@adelphia.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>bolo wrote:
>>> "dvus" <dven1@adelphia.invalid> wrote:
>>>> bolo wrote:
>>>>> "dvus" <dven1@adelphia.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> bolo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Spent a few very brief hours in Garden District of New Orleans a
>>>>>>> couple days ago. Beautiful scenery. I was so excited snapping
>>>>>>> away i did not realize i needed to adjust my polerazation filter
>>>>>>> to remove the glare. Any suggestions on fixing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.cadotonic.com/garden
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I appreciate any suggestions i can get. Granny, KatWoman,
>>>>>>> Colin???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My stab at it:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/...6686236964202][img=http://aycu36.webshots.com/image/45515/2000126686236964202_th.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (sorry about the 2 mile long url, it's a freebie)
>>>>
>>>>> I could not see anything here. Thanks for the attempt, could you
>>>>> tell me what you did to fix it?
>>
>>>> [please don't top-post in here, it's a pain to reformat]
>>>>
>>>> It'd be a lot easier to tell you if you could see it, but of course,
>>>> like anything free, that image site doesn't work very intuitively.
>>>> Let me try another and I'll tell you what I did. You'll probably get
>>>> better work from the pros in here anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Wait, that url above is doubled up or something. Lemme try half of
>>>> it... http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/...26686236964202
>>>> seems to work ok.
>>
>>> Actually devus, it looks great, now tell me what you did. I teach a
>>> beginning photoshop class, and i use these things you all tell me in
>>> my class.
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>
>>[*please* don't top-post in here, it's a pain to reformat]
>>
>>Ok. I simply grabbed a chunk of the shutter/wall above the flare with the
>>rectangular marquis, copied it and pasted it on top of the flare. I
>>actually
>>forgot to feather it a little so I got those faint horizontal lines you
>>can
>>see. The resolution of the original is pretty low, so you wouldn't want to
>>feather it more than a pixel or two. Then I used the clone tool to clean
>>up
>>around the paste a little along with the dodge and burn tools at low
>>settings to avoid over-fix.
>>
>>The faint flare above the window was easy since there's good image info
>>within, the burn tool at low settings took that right out. I thought about
>>masking it and using some adjustment like layers or darken/lighten but
>>it's
>>easier to avoid edge artifacts if you do it by hand.
>>
>>I noticed the glare on the back of the fence was a bit much so I selected
>>one area of it with the magic wand and then used Select/Similar to get the
>>rest. The trick for me is to experiment with the tolerance of the wand
>>since
>>it also adjusts the tolerance of the Select/Similar operation. (I think I
>>used 16). I went into QuickMask mode to paint out some sections of the
>>house
>>that got selected but I didn't want to touch and then used the Burn tool
>>to
>>calm down the bright highlights a little.
>>
>>That's pretty much it, if it were mine I'd adjust the Levels and bump up
>>the
>>saturation slightly, but I'm assuming you have a higher resolution
>>original
>>that you're going to work on so I didn't bother. However, keep in mind
>>that
>>some of these guys in here are much more accomplished with Photoshop than
>>I,
>>so you ought to wait and see if they have better advice. I'm just an
>>amateur
>>that does it for fun.
>
> Too bad you couldn't change the composition.
>
>
> --
>
> Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:47:40 -0600, "bolo" <someone@someplace.org>
wrote:

>Tony,
>
>What do you mean by that? Interested in constructive criticism.

I don't believe in the strict adherence to the rules of composition,
but I do think the rules provide useful guidelines. The vertical post
runs straight up the middle of the image. The angled, but almost
horizontal rail, divides the image. The result is an image that looks
quartered.

Using the "rule of thirds", placing the vertical post at the left and
the horizontal rail further down, would improve the picture. The
fence, in focus, with the ironwork on the house in the background and
slightly out-of-focus, would result in better composition.

The focus point should have been the fence post cap with the corn ear
design. As it is, there is no central focal point of the image. The
viewer is left wondering what was the intent of the photograph.









>
>Thanks in advance.
>"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:7991t3hqpt37hg368ta7j5b9tsmdvonfe8@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:48:41 -0500, "dvus" <dven1@adelphia.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>bolo wrote:
>>>> "dvus" <dven1@adelphia.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> bolo wrote:
>>>>>> "dvus" <dven1@adelphia.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> bolo wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Spent a few very brief hours in Garden District of New Orleans a
>>>>>>>> couple days ago. Beautiful scenery. I was so excited snapping
>>>>>>>> away i did not realize i needed to adjust my polerazation filter
>>>>>>>> to remove the glare. Any suggestions on fixing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.cadotonic.com/garden
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I appreciate any suggestions i can get. Granny, KatWoman,
>>>>>>>> Colin???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My stab at it:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/...6686236964202][img=http://aycu36.webshots.com/image/45515/2000126686236964202_th.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (sorry about the 2 mile long url, it's a freebie)
>>>>>
>>>>>> I could not see anything here. Thanks for the attempt, could you
>>>>>> tell me what you did to fix it?
>>>
>>>>> [please don't top-post in here, it's a pain to reformat]
>>>>>
>>>>> It'd be a lot easier to tell you if you could see it, but of course,
>>>>> like anything free, that image site doesn't work very intuitively.
>>>>> Let me try another and I'll tell you what I did. You'll probably get
>>>>> better work from the pros in here anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wait, that url above is doubled up or something. Lemme try half of
>>>>> it... http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/...26686236964202
>>>>> seems to work ok.
>>>
>>>> Actually devus, it looks great, now tell me what you did. I teach a
>>>> beginning photoshop class, and i use these things you all tell me in
>>>> my class.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again!
>>>
>>>[*please* don't top-post in here, it's a pain to reformat]
>>>
>>>Ok. I simply grabbed a chunk of the shutter/wall above the flare with the
>>>rectangular marquis, copied it and pasted it on top of the flare. I
>>>actually
>>>forgot to feather it a little so I got those faint horizontal lines you
>>>can
>>>see. The resolution of the original is pretty low, so you wouldn't want to
>>>feather it more than a pixel or two. Then I used the clone tool to clean
>>>up
>>>around the paste a little along with the dodge and burn tools at low
>>>settings to avoid over-fix.
>>>
>>>The faint flare above the window was easy since there's good image info
>>>within, the burn tool at low settings took that right out. I thought about
>>>masking it and using some adjustment like layers or darken/lighten but
>>>it's
>>>easier to avoid edge artifacts if you do it by hand.
>>>
>>>I noticed the glare on the back of the fence was a bit much so I selected
>>>one area of it with the magic wand and then used Select/Similar to get the
>>>rest. The trick for me is to experiment with the tolerance of the wand
>>>since
>>>it also adjusts the tolerance of the Select/Similar operation. (I think I
>>>used 16). I went into QuickMask mode to paint out some sections of the
>>>house
>>>that got selected but I didn't want to touch and then used the Burn tool
>>>to
>>>calm down the bright highlights a little.
>>>
>>>That's pretty much it, if it were mine I'd adjust the Levels and bump up
>>>the
>>>saturation slightly, but I'm assuming you have a higher resolution
>>>original
>>>that you're going to work on so I didn't bother. However, keep in mind
>>>that
>>>some of these guys in here are much more accomplished with Photoshop than
>>>I,
>>>so you ought to wait and see if they have better advice. I'm just an
>>>amateur
>>>that does it for fun.
>>
>> Too bad you couldn't change the composition.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
>

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

"bolo" <someone@someplace.org> wrote in message
news:XMYzj.12208$dT.9365@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> Spent a few very brief hours in Garden District of New Orleans a couple
> days ago. Beautiful scenery. I was so excited snapping away i did not
> realize i needed to adjust my polerazation filter to remove the glare.
> Any suggestions on fixing.
>
> http://www.cadotonic.com/garden
>
> I appreciate any suggestions i can get. Granny, KatWoman, Colin???
>
> Thanks in advance.


>
well the point it if you haven't got it on the negative or original, that is
, if the highlight is totally burnt to white
then it's empty of info, no pixels
so as dvus did, this area has to be re-created
by cloning or cut and paste from another area
in some cases drawn in by hand

agree with Tony- composition is not good, it needs to be straightened out,
that post in the center and the house so tilted makes me feel dizzy
the grassy area needs to be darker and the rest a little better contrast
maybe try two corrective curve layers with masks or just burn in the grass

it is too low res to work on


glad to see N.O. is still there to take pictures of and I enjoyed seeing the
image for that reason
I have fond memories of the place


you are teaching photo students?

Several things about this picture. One, yes it sucks, but it was one of
several that i took in that direction that has flare. Also, this was the
very last pic i took before battery died. :-( It was almost a perfect
day for this walk and taking some "snap shots". Used a lot of battery on
Anne Rice homes...

Yes, N.O. is there, and this section did not seem to be affected by Katrina,
one of the residents in the area told me they were without water for 6
weeks, so he just packed up and moved to Louisville until it came back on.
As far as damage, well the areas that were hit the hardest where the ones
that were pretty bad to start with (IMHO). SO it is hard to tell...

As far a my profession, actually i teach web page design and use photoshop,
flash and illustrator for those purposes. Obviously I am not a photographer
:-) I don't use any of the afore mentioned programs enough to become very
good at them. Teaching lower level courses, i find i do the same things
over and over again.


"KatWoman" <spamfree@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2SfAj.12708$dT.10740@bignews1.bellsouth.net.. .
>
> "bolo" <someone@someplace.org> wrote in message
> news:XMYzj.12208$dT.9365@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>> Spent a few very brief hours in Garden District of New Orleans a couple
>> days ago. Beautiful scenery. I was so excited snapping away i did not
>> realize i needed to adjust my polerazation filter to remove the glare.
>> Any suggestions on fixing.
>>
>> http://www.cadotonic.com/garden
>>
>> I appreciate any suggestions i can get. Granny, KatWoman, Colin???
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>>
> well the point it if you haven't got it on the negative or original, that
> is , if the highlight is totally burnt to white
> then it's empty of info, no pixels
> so as dvus did, this area has to be re-created
> by cloning or cut and paste from another area
> in some cases drawn in by hand
>
> agree with Tony- composition is not good, it needs to be straightened out,
> that post in the center and the house so tilted makes me feel dizzy
> the grassy area needs to be darker and the rest a little better contrast
> maybe try two corrective curve layers with masks or just burn in the grass
>
> it is too low res to work on
>
>
> glad to see N.O. is still there to take pictures of and I enjoyed seeing
> the image for that reason
> I have fond memories of the place
>
>
> you are teaching photo students?
>

let me clarify this statement - I do not teach web design. I am creatively
retarded :-) I teach technical aspects of creating web pages - coding and
supporting software....

"bolo" <someone@someplace.org> wrote in message
news:nBhAj.6$9O.1@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> Several things about this picture. One, yes it sucks, but it was one of
> several that i took in that direction that has flare. Also, this was the
> very last pic i took before battery died. :-( It was almost a perfect
> day for this walk and taking some "snap shots". Used a lot of battery on
> Anne Rice homes...
>
> Yes, N.O. is there, and this section did not seem to be affected by
> Katrina, one of the residents in the area told me they were without water
> for 6 weeks, so he just packed up and moved to Louisville until it came
> back on. As far as damage, well the areas that were hit the hardest where
> the ones that were pretty bad to start with (IMHO). SO it is hard to
> tell...
>
> As far a my profession, actually i teach web page design and use
> photoshop, flash and illustrator for those purposes. Obviously I am not a
> photographer :-) I don't use any of the afore mentioned programs enough
> to become very good at them. Teaching lower level courses, i find i do
> the same things over and over again.
>
>
> "KatWoman" <spamfree@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2SfAj.12708$dT.10740@bignews1.bellsouth.net.. .
>>
>> "bolo" <someone@someplace.org> wrote in message
>> news:XMYzj.12208$dT.9365@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>>> Spent a few very brief hours in Garden District of New Orleans a couple
>>> days ago. Beautiful scenery. I was so excited snapping away i did not
>>> realize i needed to adjust my polerazation filter to remove the glare.
>>> Any suggestions on fixing.
>>>
>>> http://www.cadotonic.com/garden
>>>
>>> I appreciate any suggestions i can get. Granny, KatWoman,
>>> Colin???
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>>
>> well the point it if you haven't got it on the negative or original, that
>> is , if the highlight is totally burnt to white
>> then it's empty of info, no pixels
>> so as dvus did, this area has to be re-created
>> by cloning or cut and paste from another area
>> in some cases drawn in by hand
>>
>> agree with Tony- composition is not good, it needs to be straightened
>> out, that post in the center and the house so tilted makes me feel dizzy
>> the grassy area needs to be darker and the rest a little better contrast
>> maybe try two corrective curve layers with masks or just burn in the
>> grass
>>
>> it is too low res to work on
>>
>>
>> glad to see N.O. is still there to take pictures of and I enjoyed seeing
>> the image for that reason
>> I have fond memories of the place
>>
>>
>> you are teaching photo students?
>>
>
>

">>
>> "KatWoman" <spamfree@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:2SfAj.12708$dT.10740@bignews1.bellsouth.net.. .
>>>
>>> "bolo" <someone@someplace.org> wrote in message
>>> news:XMYzj.12208$dT.9365@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>>>> Spent a few very brief hours in Garden District of New Orleans a couple
>>>> days ago. Beautiful scenery. I was so excited snapping away i did not
>>>> realize i needed to adjust my polerazation filter to remove the glare.
>>>> Any suggestions on fixing.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cadotonic.com/garden
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate any suggestions i can get. Granny, KatWoman,
>>>> Colin???
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>> well the point it if you haven't got it on the negative or original,
>>> that is , if the highlight is totally burnt to white
>>> then it's empty of info, no pixels
>>> so as dvus did, this area has to be re-created
>>> by cloning or cut and paste from another area
>>> in some cases drawn in by hand
>>>
>>> agree with Tony- composition is not good, it needs to be straightened
>>> out, that post in the center and the house so tilted makes me feel dizzy
>>> the grassy area needs to be darker and the rest a little better contrast
>>> maybe try two corrective curve layers with masks or just burn in the
>>> grass
>>>
>>> it is too low res to work on
>>>
>>>
>>> glad to see N.O. is still there to take pictures of and I enjoyed seeing
>>> the image for that reason
>>> I have fond memories of the place
>>>
>>>
>>> you are teaching photo students?
>>>
> "bolo" <someone@someplace.org> wrote in message
> news:nBhAj.6$9O.1@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> Several things about this picture. One, yes it sucks, but it was one of
>> several that i took in that direction that has flare. Also, this was the
>> very last pic i took before battery died. :-( It was almost a perfect
>> day for this walk and taking some "snap shots". Used a lot of battery on
>> Anne Rice homes...
>>
>> Yes, N.O. is there, and this section did not seem to be affected by
>> Katrina, one of the residents in the area told me they were without water
>> for 6 weeks, so he just packed up and moved to Louisville until it came
>> back on. As far as damage, well the areas that were hit the hardest where
>> the ones that were pretty bad to start with (IMHO). SO it is hard to
>> tell...
>>
>> As far a my profession, actually i teach web page design and use
>> photoshop, flash and illustrator for those purposes. Obviously I am not
>> a photographer :-) I don't use any of the afore mentioned programs
>> enough to become very good at them. Teaching lower level courses, i find
>> i do the same things over and over again.
>>
>>bolo" <someone@someplace.org> wrote in message
>>news:FJhAj.10$9O.2@bignews3.bellsouth.net...> let me clarify this
>>statement - I do not teach web design. I am creatively
> retarded :-) I teach technical aspects of creating web pages - coding and
> supporting software....
>

please post at bottom of thread or it skews the order

I often see really poor quality photos and graphics on webpages

So many web designers are really clueless about proper preparation of
images, most especially photos, and art and design basics, it is one of my
pet peeves and I see a lot of it.
I am the opposite and can make the killa graphics but suck at the coding the
pages part and intricacies and limitations of web language and formatting
this is not meant to insult your personally but how can you teach design
when you are not an artist?

In one case my husband took photos of a very fine home and island for an
exclusive real estate company at huge expense to the client (rented
helicopter, his fee and asst fee)
and whoever prepared them for the web made such lousy compressions and poor
render of the orig colors they were unrecognizable.What a huge waste of
money (at least wasted on us!) to pay for quality and still in the end the
public and customers saw crap.

Nice job, dvus. I hope we'll be hearing more from you.
--
Mike Russell - www.curvemeister.com

Mike Russell wrote:

> Nice job, dvus. I hope we'll be hearing more from you.

Believe me, if I could do the magic with Curves you do I would give up on so
much use of Levels, Brightness/Contrast and a few others. I've tried, and
all I can manage is a squiggly line in the Curves graph that doesn't seem to
accomplish what I want. So, one ends up using the other tools to acheive the
same ends. But, thanks for the encouragement.

--
dvus