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Vieux 15/02/2008, 19h22   #1
Jean Pierre Daviau
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How can I imitate a polarizing filter with photoshop 7?

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Vieux 15/02/2008, 19h44   #2
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:22:04 -0500, "Jean Pierre Daviau"
<Once@WasEno.ugh> wrote:

>How can I imitate a polarizing filter with photoshop 7?
>
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>Thanks for your attention.
>
>Jean Pierre Daviau



I doubt if it can be done. Remember as an example, a polarizing filter
prevent glare on water. How would you imitate that, unless by cloning.
But lets wait for the guys who know:-)

Dave

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Vieux 15/02/2008, 20h26   #3
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:22:04 -0500, "Jean Pierre Daviau"
<Once@WasEno.ugh> wrote:

>How can I imitate a polarizing filter with photoshop 7?
>
>--
>Thanks for your attention.
>
>Jean Pierre Daviau


Do you want to remove reflections or darken the sky. Polarisers will
do both
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Vieux 15/02/2008, 22h01   #4
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You cannot imitated a polarizing filter in Photoshop. Now, to be clear,
that doesn't mean that you couldn't take two pictures -- one with and one
without the polarizer -- and then adjust the one without in Photoshop to
match the one with. I only mean that there is no SIMPLE way to duplicate
the effects. And there is no itemized list of instructions that you could
follow that would always work. Yes, you can darken and saturate the sky and
adjust highlights and do all kinds of wonderful things. But it won't be the
same. Photoshop is great, but you still need two filters on your camera --
a polarizer when needed, and a UV (mostly to prevent scratches on your
lens).

"Jean Pierre Daviau" <Once@WasEno.ugh> wrote in message
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> How can I imitate a polarizing filter with photoshop 7?
>
> --
> Thanks for your attention.
>
> Jean Pierre Daviau
> --
> Olympus sp-550uz
> windows Xp
> asus p4 s533/333/133
> Intel(R) Celeron (R) CPU 2.00 GHz
> Processor Radeon7000 0x5159 agp
>



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Vieux 16/02/2008, 00h46   #5
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:22:04 -0500, "Jean Pierre Daviau"
<Once@WasEno.ugh> wrote:

>How can I imitate a polarizing filter with photoshop 7?
>
>--
>Thanks for your attention.
>
>Jean Pierre Daviau


I have never tried it, so I don't know how well it works, but here's a
tutorial about it.
http://photoshoptutorials.ws/photosh...ng-filter.html

Talker
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Vieux 16/02/2008, 04h13   #6
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You can fake it darkening effect using Levels or Curves. However, you can
not fake the glare removal or reduction. This is an optical at the time of
image capture thing that can't be done post process. Unless of course you
like the clone tool a whole hell of a lot. Buy a polarizer.


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Vieux 16/02/2008, 11h37   #7
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Thanks.

Maybe there will be one in Photoshop 2040 ;-)


"aglet" <napwalker@aol.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
JtCdnbyAvt8glivanZ2dnUVZ_s2tnZ2d@comcast.com...
> You cannot imitated a polarizing filter in Photoshop. Now, to
> be clear, that doesn't mean that you couldn't take two
> pictures -- one with and one without the polarizer -- and then
> adjust the one without in Photoshop to match the one with. I
> only mean that there is no SIMPLE way to duplicate the effects.
> And there is no itemized list of instructions that you could
> follow that would always work. Yes, you can darken and
> saturate the sky and adjust highlights and do all kinds of
> wonderful things. But it won't be the same. Photoshop is
> great, but you still need two filters on your camera -- a
> polarizer when needed, and a UV (mostly to prevent scratches on
> your lens).
>
> "Jean Pierre Daviau" <Once@WasEno.ugh> wrote in message
> news:YDltj.39882$qP1.11726@wagner.videotron.net...
>> How can I imitate a polarizing filter with photoshop 7?
>>
>> --
>> Thanks for your attention.
>>
>> Jean Pierre Daviau
>> --
>> Olympus sp-550uz
>> windows Xp
>> asus p4 s533/333/133
>> Intel(R) Celeron (R) CPU 2.00 GHz
>> Processor Radeon7000 0x5159 agp
>>

>
>



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Vieux 16/02/2008, 13h30   #8
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:37:02 -0500, "Jean Pierre Daviau"
<Once@WasEno.ugh> wrote:

>Thanks.
>
>Maybe there will be one in Photoshop 2040 ;-)
>
>
>"aglet" <napwalker@aol.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
>JtCdnbyAvt8glivanZ2dnUVZ_s2tnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> You cannot imitated a polarizing filter in Photoshop. Now, to
>> be clear, that doesn't mean that you couldn't take two
>> pictures -- one with and one without the polarizer -- and then
>> adjust the one without in Photoshop to match the one with. I
>> only mean that there is no SIMPLE way to duplicate the effects.
>> And there is no itemized list of instructions that you could
>> follow that would always work. Yes, you can darken and
>> saturate the sky and adjust highlights and do all kinds of
>> wonderful things. But it won't be the same. Photoshop is
>> great, but you still need two filters on your camera -- a
>> polarizer when needed, and a UV (mostly to prevent scratches on
>> your lens).
>>
>> "Jean Pierre Daviau" <Once@WasEno.ugh> wrote in message
>> news:YDltj.39882$qP1.11726@wagner.videotron.net...
>>> How can I imitate a polarizing filter with photoshop 7?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks for your attention.
>>>
>>> Jean Pierre Daviau
>>> --
>>> Olympus sp-550uz
>>> windows Xp
>>> asus p4 s533/333/133
>>> Intel(R) Celeron (R) CPU 2.00 GHz
>>> Processor Radeon7000 0x5159 agp
>>>

>>
>>

>


And maybe by 2040 you would have learned to post in Usenet, you twit.
Thanks for your attention.

Dave


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Vieux 16/02/2008, 16h29   #9
Sir F. A. Rien
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Just because you're a bottom feeder ...
{see bottom!}

Dave <d@d.durbs> found these unused words:

>On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:37:02 -0500, "Jean Pierre Daviau"
><Once@WasEno.ugh> wrote:
>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Maybe there will be one in Photoshop 2040 ;-)
>>
>>
>>"aglet" <napwalker@aol.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
>>JtCdnbyAvt8glivanZ2dnUVZ_s2tnZ2d@comcast.com.. .
>>> You cannot imitated a polarizing filter in Photoshop. Now, to
>>> be clear, that doesn't mean that you couldn't take two
>>> pictures -- one with and one without the polarizer -- and then
>>> adjust the one without in Photoshop to match the one with. I
>>> only mean that there is no SIMPLE way to duplicate the effects.
>>> And there is no itemized list of instructions that you could
>>> follow that would always work. Yes, you can darken and
>>> saturate the sky and adjust highlights and do all kinds of
>>> wonderful things. But it won't be the same. Photoshop is
>>> great, but you still need two filters on your camera -- a
>>> polarizer when needed, and a UV (mostly to prevent scratches on
>>> your lens).
>>>
>>> "Jean Pierre Daviau" <Once@WasEno.ugh> wrote in message
>>> news:YDltj.39882$qP1.11726@wagner.videotron.net...
>>>> How can I imitate a polarizing filter with photoshop 7?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks for your attention.
>>>>
>>>> Jean Pierre Daviau
>>>> --
>>>> Olympus sp-550uz
>>>> windows Xp
>>>> asus p4 s533/333/133
>>>> Intel(R) Celeron (R) CPU 2.00 GHz
>>>> Processor Radeon7000 0x5159 agp
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>And maybe by 2040 you would have learned to post in Usenet, you twit.
>Thanks for your attention.
>
>Dave
>

Hopefully by 2040 both you and Usenet (of which alt groups are NOT a formal
part) will be long gone.

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Vieux 16/02/2008, 23h45   #10
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Listen to the advice of "Talker".

The rest do not provide to you!

"Jean Pierre Daviau" <Once@WasEno.ugh> wrote in message
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> How can I imitate a polarizing filter with photoshop 7?
>
> --
> Thanks for your attention.
>
> Jean Pierre Daviau
> --
> Olympus sp-550uz
> windows Xp
> asus p4 s533/333/133
> Intel(R) Celeron (R) CPU 2.00 GHz
> Processor Radeon7000 0x5159 agp
>



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Vieux 17/02/2008, 09h41   #11
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Frank Arthur wrote:
> Listen to the advice of "Talker".
>
> The rest do not provide to you!


well, the tutorial he quotes tries to fake the effects of a polarizing
filter, but, as all the other posters in this thread have written, no
image processing can really achieve all the results a polarizing filter
will.

I have the impression that you have no idea of what you're talking about

Rainer

>
> "Jean Pierre Daviau" <Once@WasEno.ugh> wrote in message
> news:YDltj.39882$qP1.11726@wagner.videotron.net...
>> How can I imitate a polarizing filter with photoshop 7?
>>
>> --
>> Thanks for your attention.
>>
>> Jean Pierre Daviau
>> --
>> Olympus sp-550uz
>> windows Xp
>> asus p4 s533/333/133
>> Intel(R) Celeron (R) CPU 2.00 GHz
>> Processor Radeon7000 0x5159 agp
>>

>
>

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Vieux 17/02/2008, 13h52   #12
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Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
> Dave <d@d.durbs> found these unused words:


>> And maybe by 2040 you would have learned to post in Usenet, you twit.
>> Thanks for your attention.


> Just because you're a bottom feeder ...
> {see bottom!}


No one wants to see your bottom...

> Hopefully by 2040 both you and Usenet (of which alt groups are NOT a
> formal part) will be long gone.


Of what then, are alt groups a part? Usenet isn't just the Big-8, you know.

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Vieux 17/02/2008, 15h47   #13
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"dvus" <dven1@adelphia.invalid> found these unused words:

>Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
>> Dave <d@d.durbs> found these unused words:

>
>>> And maybe by 2040 you would have learned to post in Usenet, you twit.
>>> Thanks for your attention.

>
>> Just because you're a bottom feeder ...
>> {see bottom!}

>
>No one wants to see your bottom...


That's why some post at the top! See ... even you 'know' that!
Now ... bottom's up ...

>> Hopefully by 2040 both you and Usenet (of which alt groups are NOT a
>> formal part) will be long gone.

>
>Of what then, are alt groups a part? Usenet isn't just the Big-8, you know.


"alt" => Alternate!
Usenet is a formal structure, but any idiot can create an 'alt' group with a
bit of cooperation from someone having a server.

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Vieux 17/02/2008, 16h12   #14
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Rainer Latka wrote:
> Frank Arthur wrote:
>> Listen to the advice of "Talker".
>>
>> The rest do not provide to you!

>
> well, the tutorial he quotes tries to fake the effects of a polarizing
> filter,


And that's all the OP asked for.
He asked for a way to imitate the effect of a polariser. Not for a way to
replace it with software.
That's what the tutorial offered does. It imitates some of the effects
created by a polarising filter.
Of course, some of the effects can't be recreated by software, nomatter how
clever the technique may be, but as a vague approximation, the technique
works quite well.


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Vieux 18/02/2008, 16h11   #15
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Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
> "dvus" <dven1@adelphia.invalid> found these unused words:
>> Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
>>> Dave <d@d.durbs> found these unused words:

>>
>>>> And maybe by 2040 you would have learned to post in Usenet, you
>>>> twit. Thanks for your attention.

>>
>>> Just because you're a bottom feeder ...
>>> {see bottom!}

>>
>> No one wants to see your bottom...

>
> That's why some post at the top! See ... even you 'know' that!
> Now ... bottom's up ...


Oxymoron?

>>> Hopefully by 2040 both you and Usenet (of which alt groups are NOT a
>>> formal part) will be long gone.

>>
>> Of what then, are alt groups a part? Usenet isn't just the Big-8,
>> you know.

>
> "alt" => Alternate!


You don't buy the Anarchists, Lunatics and Terrorists explanation?

> Usenet is a formal structure, but any idiot can create an 'alt' group
> with a bit of cooperation from someone having a server.


Heh, Usenet is about as informal as it gets in most places. And, if you have
the cooperation of someone with a newsserver there's no reason I know of
that you couldn't "create" a group in any hierarchy you wish. Getting it
propagated might be another thing, though.

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dvus

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