Brian Mailman wrote:
> Victor Bazarov wrote:
>> Peter J Ross wrote:
>
>>> 3. If not, does discussion of cross-platform programming in your
>>> newsgroup inconvenience you, and if so how?
>>
>> Yes, it does. It creates noise. It's just like any other para-C++
>> discussions (e.g. specific compilers and their command lines, for
>> which there are usually their own groups, using C++ for programming
>> specific OS, for which there certainly are their corresponding
>> groups, and even high-level design and governing principles, for
>> which there is 'comp.object', for example).
>
> This is beginning to sound like a NIMBY (not in my backyard) proposal.

Why so? The guy who proposed it is really interested in discussing
something that doesn't fit in 'comp.lang.c++'. Since he doesn't want
to accept our recommendations of the [existing] forums where those
discussions should take place, he's decided to organize a new group
where he thinks the discussions would be better situated.

As I understand NIMBY concept, the problem with it is that something
unpleasant _will_ be in somebody's backyard anyway. And I support
this particular one simply because it's not in mine. There are
alternatives to creating the new group. And the most viable is NOT
to allow those posts in comp.lang.c++, contrary to what you might
think, but to take them where the already would be accepted. Trust
me, there _are_ such places.

> NIMBY groups don't work, because you can't "legislate" where others
> post.

Not sure what you mean. What's a "NIMBY group"? And how is it I
(or we) try to "legislate" what others post?

The topicality discussion in comp.lang.c++ is a neverending one, and
often leads to a filty back alley when parties "discover" that c.l.c++
is in fact *unmoderated*. Nobody legilates anything, and there are no
real (effective) means of preventing off-topic posts in c.l.c++. And
those who don't really want to see so much OT here have to clench our
teeth and tolerate all the Google-originated spam, and posts by
newbies who don't even read the newsgroup or the FAQ before posting...
That's life. Yes, opponents of OT posts can complain out loud (and
they/we do), can write to the offender's ISP (and some do), but those
mechanisms are, in the end, ineffective.

For once somebody took initiative to solve it for a narrow set of
off-topics. He wants to create his own local discussion domain;
he will feel there like a fish in his own warm pond. Let him!

V
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