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Vieux 02/09/2007, 21h40   #17
Jerry Stuckle
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Par défaut Re: Outgoing links and Google ranking

Ed Jay wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle scribed:
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>> Ed Jay wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle scribed:
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>>>> Ed Jay wrote:
>>>>> Jerry Stuckle scribed:
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>>>>>> Ed Jay wrote:
>>>>>>> Brian Cryer scribed:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:R72dnTtJFO7zckTbnZ2dnUVZ_r3inZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>>>>>>> Brian Cryer wrote:
>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>> For what its worth, for link exchanges I don't exchange links with sites
>>>>>>>>>> which use perl, nofollow or scripts for their links.
>>>>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "perl link" on a web page. Perl may generate
>>>>>>>>> the link - but it's straight html code, and no one can tell from the
>>>>>>>>> client side whether the link was generated statically, with Perl, PHP, ASP
>>>>>>>>> or one of the 1,000,000 parrots pecking on keyboards.
>>>>>>>> Quite true.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I meant, and what I think the OP was referring to is that pages that
>>>>>>>> are generated using perl typically seem to have a zero PR. Whether a 0 PR
>>>>>>>> means that Google isn't following the link I simply don't know. For example
>>>>>>>> while example.com (if generated using perl) might have a PR of say 5,
>>>>>>>> example.com/foo.pl?i=3 typically has a PR of 0. (This may not be restricted
>>>>>>>> to perl.) More than happy to be shown that I'm wrong on this - my feeling is
>>>>>>>> that I should be wrong about it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suppose in the context of the OP thread, a link generated using a perl
>>>>>>>> script if it were simply generating html wouldn't in any way be
>>>>>>>> distinguishable from a normal link. So, in the context of the thread you are
>>>>>>>> 100% correct. Good point.
>>>>>>> My specific issue pertains to a single page that contains all of my external
>>>>>>> links, and having that page generated using Perl (or any other SS solution).
>>>>>>> My observations indicate that none of the SE spiders follow links to Perl or
>>>>>>> other SS scripts. If one is penalized for the number of outgoing links, then
>>>>>>> the SE spider would never see those links.
>>>>>> Another though, Ed - have you tried validating the page? It could be
>>>>>> the html is screwed up just enough to upset the se spider. Or are you
>>>>>> sure this page is being spidered at all?
>>>>> Two things, Jerry. I've written my robots.txt file to disallow /cgi-bin. My
>>>>> pages validate 100% and it gets spidered.
>>>> Hmmm, that's quite interesting then, Ed. Are the external scripts in
>>>> /cgi-bin directories? (I doubt it, but had to ask rather than assume :-) ).
>>> Yes, they are. Aren't your Perl scripts?

>> Some are in cgi, some in cgi-bin - it depends on how the server was
>> originally set up.
>>
>>>> Also, a maybe too-obvious question - how do you know the spider doesn't
>>>> follow the external link?
>>> I see the HTML page hits in my stats, but no page hits on the pages
>>> generated by the Perl scripts.

>> So you said you're disallowing /cgi-bin in your robots.txt file, but now
>> the spiders aren't hitting those in the /cgi-bin directory?
>>
>> I must be missing something here, because I know that isn't the case.

>
> If I'm disallowing the spiders to roam cgi-bin, how can they spider the
> scripts contained within it? I don't understand your confusion.


I'm confused because earlier you said:

"I've written my robots.txt file to disallow /cgi-bin."

So files those directories would not be spidered, but pages which link
to those (but are not in /cgi-bin) will be spidered.

Is this what you're seeing?

Sorry, but it looks like I'm missing something obvious.

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