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29/08/2006, 08h12

On 29 Aug 2006 03:32:23 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:

>"Timmermans" <steventimmermans@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>[ split results ]
>
>> For months and months?
>
>Yup. Others stated similar time frames, so yeah :-)
>
>> I have avoided it pretty good then, it's the
>> first time see it. Then again, I have been concentrating on MSN and
>> Yahoo lately.
>
>Yeah, I use Google a lot for searching. Still the main SE here.
>
>> Is it an experiment or something?
>
>Everything @ Google is beta isn't it? But I think it's fair to state that
>it's not an experiment since it's out in the wild. It might be refined
>though, I guess.
>
>> Is this how
>> everything will eventually be displayed?
>
>No, I think it's mostly used when Google "thinks" that the user looking
>for "A" is actually looking for "B" and "Did you mean:" isn't the right
>option.
>
>> I do not see the advantages of this.
>
>From a SEO point of view? :-D.
>
>> If they devide the first results
>> page up in three... then yeah sure, you have three different number 1
>> results. But where before a top 10 position would give you a spot on
>> the first page of the results, you now need at least a top 4 or better
>> a top 3 result.
>
>Depends on what the visitor is looking for. Maybe we can come up with a
>list of phrases that trigger this effect so we can analyze it better? I
>have the feeling that it's often presented as a suggestion: you searched
>for "A" but maybe you actually want "B"?
>
>> And then be lucky you end up in the first mentioned
>> category. Best position for a number 1 result in the third category
>> would actually display a site as seventh result. That is not very
>> motivating.
>>
>> I would prefer the most relevant result first, nevermind the multiple
>> choices.
>
>But Google "thinks" that the alternatives are more relevant compared to
>more of the same ;-)

This may well be an example of Google struggling to implement LSI. Did
they (the searcher) when searching for this word really mean this word
or this word? Let's give them the choice and see which they click.
Repeat as necessary till you have enough examples to be able to make
determinations.

BB
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29/08/2006, 08h12	#7
Big Bill Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: First time I see this in Google results! On 29 Aug 2006 03:32:23 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote: >"Timmermans" <steventimmermans@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >[ split results ] > >> For months and months? > >Yup. Others stated similar time frames, so yeah :-) > >> I have avoided it pretty good then, it's the >> first time see it. Then again, I have been concentrating on MSN and >> Yahoo lately. > >Yeah, I use Google a lot for searching. Still the main SE here. > >> Is it an experiment or something? > >Everything @ Google is beta isn't it? But I think it's fair to state that >it's not an experiment since it's out in the wild. It might be refined >though, I guess. > >> Is this how >> everything will eventually be displayed? > >No, I think it's mostly used when Google "thinks" that the user looking >for "A" is actually looking for "B" and "Did you mean:" isn't the right >option. > >> I do not see the advantages of this. > >From a SEO point of view? :-D. > >> If they devide the first results >> page up in three... then yeah sure, you have three different number 1 >> results. But where before a top 10 position would give you a spot on >> the first page of the results, you now need at least a top 4 or better >> a top 3 result. > >Depends on what the visitor is looking for. Maybe we can come up with a >list of phrases that trigger this effect so we can analyze it better? I >have the feeling that it's often presented as a suggestion: you searched >for "A" but maybe you actually want "B"? > >> And then be lucky you end up in the first mentioned >> category. Best position for a number 1 result in the third category >> would actually display a site as seventh result. That is not very >> motivating. >> >> I would prefer the most relevant result first, nevermind the multiple >> choices. > >But Google "thinks" that the alternatives are more relevant compared to >more of the same ;-) This may well be an example of Google struggling to implement LSI. Did they (the searcher) when searching for this word really mean this word or this word? Let's give them the choice and see which they click. Repeat as necessary till you have enough examples to be able to make determinations. BB -- http://www.crystal-liaison.com/comfo...les/index.html http://www.crystal-liaison.com/cryst...-new-york.html http://www.kruse.co.uk/search-engine...n-firms-uk.htm