Erwin Moller wrote:

[...]
> But I really don't think it is good advise to throw MVC and
> designpatterns at a (selfdeclared) newbie.
> In my humble opinion every new coder needs to make a lot of own mistakes
> before possibly seeing the merrit of such approaches.
> It is like teaching somebody math Integral transformations first, and
> adding and subtracting later.

I agree with you, but I have to ask:

What should be appropiate for a coder with this little experience? OOP
principles? Basic algorithmics? Functional programming principles?
Flowcharting?

> [...] It is more like a cookbook, and the programmer has to try to
> form/restate his/her problem in such a way that a design pattern can be
> applied.

IMHO, one should never implement a design pattern "as per the book". They're
not recipes, they're ideas - they you to devise new ways to look at
your problem, and new approaches to build complex systems.

OK, maybe they are a bit overkill, but one has to start making errors
somewhere to get experience, right? ;-)

> Feel free to shoot me now. ;-)

/me loads his shotgun

:-P

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