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24/02/2008, 22h38

Derek Snyder wrote:
> Thanks for the detailed reply. I had come to the same conclusion about needing
> to redo the design in Illustrator or photoshop. Maybe inDesign. I have used
> those in the past but find Fireworks so easy to work with that I thought I'd
> try it for print. Oh well...

I love Fireworks too but as you are realizing, it really is not well
suited to print work. I would forget Photoshop as well because, although
it is misused a lot for design work, that really isn't its forte
although it will handle print just fine. Photoshop as its name implies
should be used to edit photographic images, not create layouts.

> Could you take a quick look at my http://cellocelli.com/LgCardBack.png and
> advise which program might be best for me to redo this with based on my design?
> i have 3 specific issues that I am not sure how to do with inDesign or
> Illustrator. I can do some googling for but any guidance would be great!

As it's a one page thing, I would probably use Illustrator but if you
need more pages, use InDesign.

> 1. The background color fade

Not a problem in either InDesign or Illustrator. In either apps, start
by drawing a regular rectangle and make it the size you need. In
InDesign, then go to the Effects Panel and apply an Gradient Feather
effect to your rectangle. The settings should be self explanatory. In
Illustrator, make an exact copy of your rectangle and apply a white to
black gradient to it (white will remain opaque, black will be
transparent). Then select both your original rectangle and the one with
the gradient and go to the Transparency Panel. In there click the small
arrow at the top right and select "Make Opacity Mask". This is actually
closer to how you'd do it in Fireworks but, visually, its the same
effect as the effect in InDesign.

> 2. creating the 'CC' logo by merging or flattening two overlapping C's into
> one entity so that I can apply opacity to it evenly.

Why would you flatten it? In either of the 3 apps, just take the 2
letters and convert them to paths (create outlines in AI and ID) then
join them as one vector shape. Apply simple opacity to the shape. No
need to flatten as a bitmap.

> 3. creating a drop shadow on the box that I use as a sheet music cover.

Both Illustrator and InDesign have drop shadow effects that are
probably a lot more sophisticated than Fireworks. Simple thing to do in
either apps.

> Would inDesign or Illustrator be a better bet for me do you think

Either would do the job well. InDesign will give you the best control
over text as well as multiple pages. Illustrator would handle your
project with ease as well. Stay away from Photoshop as your back to
dealing with resolution dependent bitmaps and that is also far from ideal.

HTH!

--
StÃ©phane Bergeron
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www.webfocusdesign.com
blog:tutorials:articles:gallery
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24/02/2008, 22h38	#5
StÃ©phane Bergeron Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: Fireworks for print design? Derek Snyder wrote: > Thanks for the detailed reply. I had come to the same conclusion about needing > to redo the design in Illustrator or photoshop. Maybe inDesign. I have used > those in the past but find Fireworks so easy to work with that I thought I'd > try it for print. Oh well... I love Fireworks too but as you are realizing, it really is not well suited to print work. I would forget Photoshop as well because, although it is misused a lot for design work, that really isn't its forte although it will handle print just fine. Photoshop as its name implies should be used to edit photographic images, not create layouts. > Could you take a quick look at my http://cellocelli.com/LgCardBack.png and > advise which program might be best for me to redo this with based on my design? > i have 3 specific issues that I am not sure how to do with inDesign or > Illustrator. I can do some googling for but any guidance would be great! As it's a one page thing, I would probably use Illustrator but if you need more pages, use InDesign. > 1. The background color fade Not a problem in either InDesign or Illustrator. In either apps, start by drawing a regular rectangle and make it the size you need. In InDesign, then go to the Effects Panel and apply an Gradient Feather effect to your rectangle. The settings should be self explanatory. In Illustrator, make an exact copy of your rectangle and apply a white to black gradient to it (white will remain opaque, black will be transparent). Then select both your original rectangle and the one with the gradient and go to the Transparency Panel. In there click the small arrow at the top right and select "Make Opacity Mask". This is actually closer to how you'd do it in Fireworks but, visually, its the same effect as the effect in InDesign. > 2. creating the 'CC' logo by merging or flattening two overlapping C's into > one entity so that I can apply opacity to it evenly. Why would you flatten it? In either of the 3 apps, just take the 2 letters and convert them to paths (create outlines in AI and ID) then join them as one vector shape. Apply simple opacity to the shape. No need to flatten as a bitmap. > 3. creating a drop shadow on the box that I use as a sheet music cover. Both Illustrator and InDesign have drop shadow effects that are probably a lot more sophisticated than Fireworks. Simple thing to do in either apps. > Would inDesign or Illustrator be a better bet for me do you think Either would do the job well. InDesign will give you the best control over text as well as multiple pages. Illustrator would handle your project with ease as well. Stay away from Photoshop as your back to dealing with resolution dependent bitmaps and that is also far from ideal. HTH! -- StÃ©phane Bergeron reach:connect:communicate www.webfocusdesign.com blog:tutorials:articles:gallery www.pixelyzed.com