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10/04/2008, 17h15

Can you get to http://centralia.k12.il.us ?

Don't worry, I will work on getting everyone to work locally then
publish/upload the file to the web server.

Sorry to take so much of your time, but it is very much appreciated!

Tim

>>> On 4/10/2008 at 11:08 AM, Murray *ACE*<forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com>
wrote:
Server not found
Firefox can't find the server at www.ccs135.com.

I dunno....

> These files are not FTP'd, but are saved through a drive mapping to the
> school folder on the web server.

YIKES. So, one mistake and you have just hosed the live file? Maybe you
can tell that I'm uncomfortable with this working environment? 8)

At least the FTP thing is not (yet) part of the equation. But seriously, if

you are going to be working with DW, you should always work out of a local
site. You can configure your Remote site to the production server, and use

either FTP or Local/Network as your connection methodology.

--
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Adobe Community Expert
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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"Tim Ferguson" <Tlf1@ccs135.com> wrote in message
news:47FDF40B.1AD2.00BD.3@ccs135.com...
> >The use of spaces in your file/pathnames hasn't ed (that's also a
> >very
>
>>dangerous habit), but would not explain why I cannot even access the
>>parent
>
>>domain. So, I'm at a loss. In fact, I cannot even ping
>>jordan.ccs135.com.
>
>>Are you sure that's the correct url?
>
> That URL works fine here and at home. Try just www.ccs135.com or
> www.ccs135.com/jordan .
>
> I will work on correcting the file name issue, that is something else
that
> was inherited.
>
>>Yes. Any FTP of files UP to the site runs the potential risk of breaking
>>the FPExtension connection with the site's content. This would (could)
>>affect any function mediated through the FPExtensions, e.g., form
>>processing, guestbooks, etc.
>
> These files are not FTP'd, but are saved through a drive mapping to the
> school folder on the web server. Although they should be on the local HD

> as
> well, a file is often directly opened, changes/corrections made, and then
> saved which is not necessarily a good practice because the local version
> doesn't get updated.
> Tim
>
>
>
>>>> On 4/10/2008 at 10:02 AM, Murray
*ACE*<forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com>
> wrote:
>> We are running an Apache server on NetWare 6.5, so should the extensions
>> still be an issue?
>
> Yes. Any FTP of files UP to the site runs the potential risk of breaking
> the FPExtension connection with the site's content. This would (could)
> affect any function mediated through the FPExtensions, e.g., form
> processing, guestbooks, etc.
>
>> Thanks for your although I'm not sure why you're not able to access
>> the
>> site.
>
> The use of spaces in your file/pathnames hasn't ed (that's also a
very
> dangerous habit), but would not explain why I cannot even access the
> parent
>
> domain. So, I'm at a loss. In fact, I cannot even ping
> jordan.ccs135.com.
>
> Are you sure that's the correct url?
>
> --
> Murray --- ICQ 71997575
> Adobe Community Expert
> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
> ==================
> http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
> http://www.dwfaq.com ( http://www.dwfaq.com/ ) ( http://www.dwfaq.com/ ) -
DW FAQs, Tutorials &
> Resources
> ==================
>
>
> "Tim Ferguson" <Tlf1@ccs135.com> wrote in message
> news:47FDE27E.1AD2.00BD.3@ccs135.com...
>> That may explain then why, after I created an entirely new page for the
>> home
>> page using DW 8, that his changes did not create havoc. I did copy and
>> paste from the old home page after creating tables, etc. Maybe I need to
>> do
>> the same with the faculty/staff page?
>>
>> We are running an Apache server on NetWare 6.5, so should the extensions
>> still be an issue?
>>
>> Thanks for your although I'm not sure why you're not able to access
>> the
>> site.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>>>> On 4/10/2008 at 9:30 AM, Murray
*ACE*<forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com>
>> wrote:
>> Using anything but FrontPage on a site originally created in FrontPage
is
>
>> a
>>
>> dangerous thing to do, and you may have just discovered that,
>> unfortunately.
>>
>> This is true by virtue of the way the FrontPage (server) extensions play
>> into the picture, requiring that files be uploaded NOT using FTP
>> protocols,
>>
>> but by using FrontPage's HTTP protocols. Unfortunately this means that
>> once
>>
>> the original committment to FrontPage has been made, one is locked into
>> continued use of that (now obsolete) authoring system until and unless
> the
>> entire site is rebuilt.
>>
>> I am unable to retrieve any webpage at your link or even at
>> http://jordan.ccs135.com, ( http://jordan.ccs135.com,/ ) (
http://jordan.ccs135.com,/ ) (
> http://jordan.ccs135.com,/ ) so I cannot
>> comment
>> further about what might have
>> happened or ways to prevent it.
>>
>> --
>> Murray --- ICQ 71997575
>> Adobe Community Expert
>> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
>> ==================
>> http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
>> http://www.dwfaq.com ( http://www.dwfaq.com/ ) ( http://www.dwfaq.com/ )
(
>> http://www.dwfaq.com/ ) -
> DW FAQs, Tutorials &
>> Resources
>> ==================
>>
>>
>> "Tim Ferguson" <Tlf1@ccs135.com> wrote in message
>> news:47FDDBD6.1AD2.00BD.3@ccs135.com...
>>> This past weekend I updated and cleaned up the home page and
>> faculty/staff
>>> page at one of our school's which the previous principal had created in
>>> FrontPage a couple of years ago but the current principal was
>> occasionally
>>> having trouble with. Everything was working fine until the principal
>>> corrected a problem on the faculty/staff page for a teacher no longer
at
>>> that school. When it was posted, the page came up in a centered,
>>> single-column. It included most of the items on the page but there was
>> no
>>> background either.
>>>
>>> What would cause this, and how can it be prevented? I loaded the page
>>> into
>>> Dreamweaver and reset everything, but am concerned about it happening
>>> again
>>> and he needs to be able to make additions/subtractions as needed.
>>>
>>> The URL is http://jordan.ccs135.com/faculty and staff.htm
>>>
>>> Thanks for any , ideas, or suggestions on what's going on,
>>>
>>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

10/04/2008, 17h15	#7
Tim Ferguson Messages: n/a Hébergeur:	Re: Dreamweaver 8/FrontPage Issue Can you get to http://centralia.k12.il.us ? Don't worry, I will work on getting everyone to work locally then publish/upload the file to the web server. Sorry to take so much of your time, but it is very much appreciated! Tim >>> On 4/10/2008 at 11:08 AM, Murray ACE<forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote: Server not found Firefox can't find the server at www.ccs135.com. I dunno.... > These files are not FTP'd, but are saved through a drive mapping to the > school folder on the web server. YIKES. So, one mistake and you have just hosed the live file? Maybe you can tell that I'm uncomfortable with this working environment? 8) At least the FTP thing is not (yet) part of the equation. But seriously, if you are going to be working with DW, you should always work out of a local site. You can configure your Remote site to the production server, and use either FTP or Local/Network as your connection methodology. -- Murray --- ICQ 71997575 Adobe Community Expert (If you MUST email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) ================== http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources http://www.dwfaq.com ( http://www.dwfaq.com/ ) - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources ================== "Tim Ferguson" <Tlf1@ccs135.com> wrote in message news:47FDF40B.1AD2.00BD.3@ccs135.com... > >The use of spaces in your file/pathnames hasn't ed (that's also a > >very > >>dangerous habit), but would not explain why I cannot even access the >>parent > >>domain. So, I'm at a loss. In fact, I cannot even ping >>jordan.ccs135.com. > >>Are you sure that's the correct url? > > That URL works fine here and at home. Try just www.ccs135.com or > www.ccs135.com/jordan . > > I will work on correcting the file name issue, that is something else that > was inherited. > >>Yes. Any FTP of files UP to the site runs the potential risk of breaking >>the FPExtension connection with the site's content. This would (could) >>affect any function mediated through the FPExtensions, e.g., form >>processing, guestbooks, etc. > > These files are not FTP'd, but are saved through a drive mapping to the > school folder on the web server. Although they should be on the local HD > as > well, a file is often directly opened, changes/corrections made, and then > saved which is not necessarily a good practice because the local version > doesn't get updated. > Tim > > > >>>> On 4/10/2008 at 10:02 AM, Murray ACE<forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> > wrote: >> We are running an Apache server on NetWare 6.5, so should the extensions >> still be an issue? > > Yes. Any FTP of files UP to the site runs the potential risk of breaking > the FPExtension connection with the site's content. This would (could) > affect any function mediated through the FPExtensions, e.g., form > processing, guestbooks, etc. > >> Thanks for your although I'm not sure why you're not able to access >> the >> site. > > The use of spaces in your file/pathnames hasn't ed (that's also a very > dangerous habit), but would not explain why I cannot even access the > parent > > domain. So, I'm at a loss. In fact, I cannot even ping > jordan.ccs135.com. > > Are you sure that's the correct url? > > -- > Murray --- ICQ 71997575 > Adobe Community Expert > (If you MUST email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) > ================== > http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources > http://www.dwfaq.com ( http://www.dwfaq.com/ ) ( http://www.dwfaq.com/ ) - DW FAQs, Tutorials & > Resources > ================== > > > "Tim Ferguson" <Tlf1@ccs135.com> wrote in message > news:47FDE27E.1AD2.00BD.3@ccs135.com... >> That may explain then why, after I created an entirely new page for the >> home >> page using DW 8, that his changes did not create havoc. I did copy and >> paste from the old home page after creating tables, etc. Maybe I need to >> do >> the same with the faculty/staff page? >> >> We are running an Apache server on NetWare 6.5, so should the extensions >> still be an issue? >> >> Thanks for your although I'm not sure why you're not able to access >> the >> site. >> >> Tim >> >>>>> On 4/10/2008 at 9:30 AM, Murray ACE<forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> >> wrote: >> Using anything but FrontPage on a site originally created in FrontPage is > >> a >> >> dangerous thing to do, and you may have just discovered that, >> unfortunately. >> >> This is true by virtue of the way the FrontPage (server) extensions play >> into the picture, requiring that files be uploaded NOT using FTP >> protocols, >> >> but by using FrontPage's HTTP protocols. Unfortunately this means that >> once >> >> the original committment to FrontPage has been made, one is locked into >> continued use of that (now obsolete) authoring system until and unless > the >> entire site is rebuilt. >> >> I am unable to retrieve any webpage at your link or even at >> http://jordan.ccs135.com, ( http://jordan.ccs135.com,/ ) ( http://jordan.ccs135.com,/ ) ( > http://jordan.ccs135.com,/ ) so I cannot >> comment >> further about what might have >> happened or ways to prevent it. >> >> -- >> Murray --- ICQ 71997575 >> Adobe Community Expert >> (If you MUST email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!) >> ================== >> http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources >> http://www.dwfaq.com ( http://www.dwfaq.com/ ) ( http://www.dwfaq.com/ ) ( >> http://www.dwfaq.com/ ) - > DW FAQs, Tutorials & >> Resources >> ================== >> >> >> "Tim Ferguson" <Tlf1@ccs135.com> wrote in message >> news:47FDDBD6.1AD2.00BD.3@ccs135.com... >>> This past weekend I updated and cleaned up the home page and >> faculty/staff >>> page at one of our school's which the previous principal had created in >>> FrontPage a couple of years ago but the current principal was >> occasionally >>> having trouble with. Everything was working fine until the principal >>> corrected a problem on the faculty/staff page for a teacher no longer at >>> that school. When it was posted, the page came up in a centered, >>> single-column. It included most of the items on the page but there was >> no >>> background either. >>> >>> What would cause this, and how can it be prevented? I loaded the page >>> into >>> Dreamweaver and reset everything, but am concerned about it happening >>> again >>> and he needs to be able to make additions/subtractions as needed. >>> >>> The URL is http://jordan.ccs135.com/faculty and staff.htm >>> >>> Thanks for any , ideas, or suggestions on what's going on, >>> >>> Tim >> >> >> > > >